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Play
Apr 25, 2006

Strong stroll for a mangy stray

ulmont posted:

Or the loving line never shows up until like 12:55 on Sunday.

Yeah that too. I've missed a lot of spread stuff because of that

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barnold
Dec 16, 2011


what do u do when yuo're born to play fps? guess there's nothing left to do but play fps. boom headshot

Qwijib0 posted:

evil roadmap feature, just count no-picks as losses to end all the confusion about "what is a winner" The game is picking winners, if you did not pick a winner that week, you did not succeed.

I can't tell if you're serious about this being a roadmap feature because no less than two dozen well-intentioned people have said this in the past three or so seasons of Eliminator only for elfurbe to write some epic meltdown about how "you people just don't understand the game" and how it's such a hassle to have to run it or have people offer suggestions about how it's run.

elfurbe posted:

I'll offer this unambiguous statement on behalf of the entire Eliminator team: we will never change this scoring system on these games. Not ever. There are only so many ways to say no, the answer continues to be no.

You folks that don't like this have a fundamentally different philosophy on scoring these games that we do not agree with. While I can't make you agree with us, we're running this particular software so this is how it will continue to be scored. Live with it and keep playing, be so angry you have to quit, do whatever you think will help you live your best life, but no amount of arguing on the forums will ever change this scoring system while we're running the software. We have heard you, we do not agree with you. You think we're wrong, we don't care that you think that. This is the game. If you, personally, want to obsess about win percentages or some other thing you've decided makes you superior even though you're losing or tied, that's your prerogative, but we do not care about it. We on the team all agree that the current scoring system is the right one.

barnold fucked around with this message at 17:37 on Oct 30, 2019

Leperflesh
May 17, 2007


These teams I thought would not make the spread, but they did. I am not good at figuring out who will fail to beat the spread.

To be clear, this is my reverse spread eliminator record, and I've never done this badly in any of the games in several years of playing.

Qwijib0
Apr 10, 2007

Who needs on-field skills when you can dance like this?

Fun Shoe

ulmont posted:

Or the loving line never shows up until like 12:55 on Sunday. Vikings @ Chiefs (-2.5 at CBS), I'm looking at you.

At least let me make the pick before the spread shows up.

as of right now, westgate, william hill and MGM are not taking bets on that game either. It sucks for everyone, so it's still a level field.

https://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/odds/las-vegas/

if there's no line set, you can't bet at a real casino, why should fake money be any different?

Tiny Tubesteak Tom posted:

I can't tell if you're serious about this being a roadmap feature because no less than two dozen well-intentioned people have said this in the past three or so seasons of Eliminator only for elfurbe to write some epic meltdown about how "you people just don't understand the game" and how it's such a hassle to have to run it or have people offer suggestions about how it's run.

"Counting a no-pick as a loss" would change nothing about the scoring except the display of the results. It does not change the game at all, just simplifies the results table.

ulmont
Sep 15, 2010

IF I EVER MISS VOTING IN AN ELECTION (EVEN AMERICAN IDOL) ,OR HAVE UNPAID PARKING TICKETS, PLEASE TAKE AWAY MY FRANCHISE

Qwijib0 posted:

if there's no line set, you can't bet at a real casino, why should fake money be any different?

Interesting. I wonder where CBS’s spread pickem game gets its lines from, because they have had a 2.5 line since Tuesday.

Paint Crop Pro
Mar 22, 2007

Find someone who values you like Rick Spielman values 7th round picks.



I'm proud to announce I am 9-0 in reverse eliminator.

wandler20
Nov 13, 2002

How many Championships?

OxySnake posted:

I'm proud to announce I am 9-0 in reverse eliminator.

I went to 9-0 in eliminator last night. Just need the Bears to lose to the Eagles to match you in reverse.

Ditch
Jul 29, 2003

Backdrop Hunger
I have spent a lot of time trying to bust the myth that divisional games are inherently risky. Their share of upsets is on par with their share of total games. However, I might start subscribing to the "don't bet on the Bucs" narrative, and add the Jags to that mix.

So far this decade I'm right 85% of the time on games that don't involve the Bucs or Jags, and just 65% on games that do. Those are the ultimate "any given Sunday" teams because they can beat or lose to literally anyone.

Gerund
Sep 12, 2007

He push a man


Call me an F-35 because I put it on these Jets

corn on the cop
Oct 12, 2012

Break what must be broken, once for all, that's all, and take the suffering on oneself.

― Corey Dostoyevsky

Gerund posted:

Call me an F-35 because I put it on these Jets

sorry bud

Cavauro
Jan 9, 2008

i should have picked the bills instead of the packers, because the bills won and the packers haven't won yet. they can lose.

Gerund
Sep 12, 2007

He push a man


My alt was the Colts so it wasn't meant to be.

Still feel good avoiding the Bucs/Seahawks game tho.

corn on the cop
Oct 12, 2012

Break what must be broken, once for all, that's all, and take the suffering on oneself.

― Corey Dostoyevsky
gently caress you, packers.

shyduck
Oct 3, 2003


its really good the packers decided not to try today

Jethro
Jun 1, 2000

I was raised on the dairy, Bitch!
Well, I was the last one standing in reverse spread, but I forgot the #2 rule of eliminator (#1 being avoid division games): never count on the Chargers for anything, win or loss.

Qwijib0
Apr 10, 2007

Who needs on-field skills when you can dance like this?

Fun Shoe
the chargers have been complete mysteries for several seasons

Play
Apr 25, 2006

Strong stroll for a mangy stray
suck my dick packers. seriously

Leperflesh
May 17, 2007

The dolphins failed to lose by more than 3 to the jets, thus extending my losing streak in reverse spread eliminator to 9 games.

At this point I should get the #1 pick next year. That's how that works, right?

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

I'm getting SQL errors with some of my Pick Em/Reverse Pick Em picks this week and even though I've supposedly picked for every game this is how it's showing:

ulmont
Sep 15, 2010

IF I EVER MISS VOTING IN AN ELECTION (EVEN AMERICAN IDOL) ,OR HAVE UNPAID PARKING TICKETS, PLEASE TAKE AWAY MY FRANCHISE

You're gonna be sad with that Eliminator pick. That has prime "dead cat bounce to gently caress up a divisional opponent flying high" stink all over it.

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

ulmont posted:

You're gonna be sad with that Eliminator pick. That has prime "dead cat bounce to gently caress up a divisional opponent flying high" stink all over it.

I know "no divisional games" is the #1 unwritten rule but it's the Saints at home against the Falcons. They're gonna loving destroy them

Also as you can see I've already been wrong three times already so this is more just for my own sake and I'll bet how I feel like!

ulmont
Sep 15, 2010

IF I EVER MISS VOTING IN AN ELECTION (EVEN AMERICAN IDOL) ,OR HAVE UNPAID PARKING TICKETS, PLEASE TAKE AWAY MY FRANCHISE

WampaLord posted:

I know "no divisional games" is the #1 unwritten rule but it's the Saints at home against the Falcons. They're gonna loving destroy them

I'm pretty sure the Saints at least once (2015) came out of nowhere (1-4) to fuckin' wreck an undefeated Falcons' season, so it's totally possible the Falcons could get their poo poo together just this once.

But really I don't want you to gently caress this up for the Saints, thanks.

Ditch
Jul 29, 2003

Backdrop Hunger
The last 16 bloodbath games (25+ people selected):

2019 week 5, KC vs Ind
2019 week 4, LAR vs TB
2018 week 14, Pit at Oak
2018 week 14, Den at SF
2018 week 11, Ari vs Oak
2018 week 10, Phi vs Dal*
2018 week 3, Min vs Buf
2018 week 1, NO vs TB*
2017 week 17, Sea vs Ari*
2017 week 14, Cin vs Chi
2017 week 11, KC at NYG
2017 week 9, Sea vs Was
2017 week 9, Hou vs Ind*
2017 week 6, Atl vs Mia
2017 week 6, Den vs NYG
2017 week 5, Pit vs Jac

Starred games are divisional: just 4 of 16, despite being 6 out of every 16 games played. Divisional games are not more likely to be bloodbaths.

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

ulmont posted:

But really I don't want you to gently caress this up for the Saints, thanks.

Oh, trust me, I definitely hope that I have.

Chichevache
Feb 17, 2010

One of the funniest posters in GIP.

Just not intentionally.

Ditch posted:

The last 16 bloodbath games (25+ people selected):

2019 week 5, KC vs Ind
2019 week 4, LAR vs TB
2018 week 14, Pit at Oak
2018 week 14, Den at SF
2018 week 11, Ari vs Oak
2018 week 10, Phi vs Dal*
2018 week 3, Min vs Buf
2018 week 1, NO vs TB*
2017 week 17, Sea vs Ari*
2017 week 14, Cin vs Chi
2017 week 11, KC at NYG
2017 week 9, Sea vs Was
2017 week 9, Hou vs Ind*
2017 week 6, Atl vs Mia
2017 week 6, Den vs NYG
2017 week 5, Pit vs Jac

Starred games are divisional: just 4 of 16, despite being 6 out of every 16 games played. Divisional games are not more likely to be bloodbaths.

That doesn't mean divisional games are harder to predict. It means that those four divisional bloodbath games looked so much like sure things that people were willing to violate the "no divisional games" rule. And it cost them.

Ditch
Jul 29, 2003

Backdrop Hunger
Looking at it another way, over that period there were 20 games where divisional games were potential bloodbaths. The favorite went 16-4. There were 61 non-divisional potential bloodbaths, and the favorite went 46-16.

Divisional game "rule" is dumb as hell.

Kalli
Jun 2, 2001



Looking at this week, the only two games I feel good about using in eliminator are both divisional games.

The third, Dolphins @ Colts is iffy because man if the Colts are on their 3rd string QB....

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

This is all getting a bit off topic from the initial issue I posted about, which was SQL errors on the site:

Qwijib0
Apr 10, 2007

Who needs on-field skills when you can dance like this?

Fun Shoe

WampaLord posted:

This is all getting a bit off topic from the initial issue I posted about, which was SQL errors on the site:



I'll take a look

edit: you have a PM

Qwijib0 fucked around with this message at 17:33 on Nov 6, 2019

Fentry
Mar 7, 2003



I've been doing much better than I expected in pickem this year but holy crap did I not pick well this week

Mega64
May 23, 2008

I took the octopath less travelered,

And it made one-eighth the difference.

So what were people saying about picking divisional games?

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

ulmont posted:

But really I don't want you to gently caress this up for the Saints, thanks.

ahahahahahAHAHAHAHAHA

also my reverse pick em picks are still borked for Car/GB but :shrug:

wandler20
Nov 13, 2002

How many Championships?
haha I picked the Saints/Falcons in both eliminators and dammit I'd do it again.

Kalli
Jun 2, 2001



Mega64 posted:

So what were people saying about picking divisional games?

I lived, I died, I'll live again

Chichevache
Feb 17, 2010

One of the funniest posters in GIP.

Just not intentionally.

Ditch posted:

Looking at it another way, over that period there were 20 games where divisional games were potential bloodbaths. The favorite went 16-4. There were 61 non-divisional potential bloodbaths, and the favorite went 46-16.

Divisional game "rule" is dumb as hell.

Eat my rear end

Qwijib0
Apr 10, 2007

Who needs on-field skills when you can dance like this?

Fun Shoe
colts are not going to beat the dolphins lmao

ulmont
Sep 15, 2010

IF I EVER MISS VOTING IN AN ELECTION (EVEN AMERICAN IDOL) ,OR HAVE UNPAID PARKING TICKETS, PLEASE TAKE AWAY MY FRANCHISE

WampaLord posted:

ahahahahahAHAHAHAHAHA

:negative:

Qwijib0
Apr 10, 2007

Who needs on-field skills when you can dance like this?

Fun Shoe
assuming indy/mia holds, we're looking at :eyepop: 82.7% :eyepop: elimination this week. On track for the 3rd worst week in eliminator history.

corn on the cop
Oct 12, 2012

Break what must be broken, once for all, that's all, and take the suffering on oneself.

― Corey Dostoyevsky
ah, there's the bloodbath that took all season to happen

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barnold
Dec 16, 2011


what do u do when yuo're born to play fps? guess there's nothing left to do but play fps. boom headshot


:eyepop:

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