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skeletors_condom posted:How can you justify invasions, murder of 14K people, displacement of millions over something that is a none-issue? That's what when I say you're eating Putin's propaganda. It's not normal to ruin two regions and millions of lives over a lie. What do you mean "wipe"? What does it mean to "wipe your butt"? You mean to tell me I have to "wipe my butt" after poop? How is this the case? Explain you're self
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is..is he a Nazi and a tankie how does that work
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Tunicate posted:I mean it seems like requiring the legal code of a country to be fully translated into every single language is bar that literally nowhere passes (even beyond legalese making the law into something you need specific training to comprehend even if you ostensibly speak the language) that’s why courts are required to provide interpretors, and it’s not a tremendous imposition for the government to translate its laws into all residential languages. the Ukrainian state wouldn’t be immensely burdened by translating its laws into Russian, Romanian, Bulgarian, Hungarian, and Polish.
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CharlestheHammer posted:is..is he a Nazi and a tankie how does that work look europe, well eastern europen mainly, but also western europe, gets very confused about this whole fascism bad thing since they have an authoritarian guy they hate and an authoritarian guy that they love
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CharlestheHammer posted:is..is he a Nazi and a tankie how does that work basically russian revanchists who can take or leave all the attempts at socialism
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:that’s why courts are required to provide interpretors, and it’s not a tremendous imposition for the government to translate its laws into all residential languages. the Ukrainian state wouldn’t be immensely burdened by translating its laws into Russian, Romanian, Bulgarian, Hungarian, and Polish. Really? Have you run a cost:benefit analysis on this? Ukrainian is the national language. If you're going to live in France or Germany, you need to know French and German respectively. This is not complicated. And I say this as person whose Ukrainian is not that good. You can't decide serious issues based on a casual lookup of wikipedia and some Ivory tower thinking about "nations are bad." There is an element "internet leftist's burden" to your thought process.
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skeletors_condom posted:Ukrainian is the national language. If you're going to live in France or Germany, you need to know French and German respectively. This is not complicated. And I say this as person whose Ukrainian is not that good. jesus christ dude
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skeletors_condom posted:That hardly qualifies as discrimination. The reality of the matter is that it's not a big deal if you speak Russian as a regular person. I only speak Russian and it's never an issue even among "nationalists" (because they understand that I support Ukraine). do you show the fascists your posts in this thread as proof you support Ukraine not worth it dude
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A Big Fuckin Hornet posted:jesus christ dude Have you ever lived in another country where the local language is not english? Even if you in Quebec, you really should know french or at least make an effort to get it to an upper intermediate level. This is just how the world works.
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it’s kind of funny as these are the basic arguments America first types make for their insanely anti immigrant arguments. shows that no matter the nationality nationals are basically interchangeable
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CharlestheHammer posted:it’s kind of funny as these are the basic arguments America first types make for their insanely anti immigrant arguments. What does this have to do with "[County/Region X] first?" If you live in SoCal, you probably want to know english and maybe spanish. This is not nationalism. Have you ever lived in a country where people don't speak english? You're telling me it's not a good idea to learn the local language as well as you can?
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BULBASAUR posted:This is a good thread and I am grateful for it it loving rules
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skeletors_condom posted:You guys really need to stop shouting "everyone is a neo-nazi!1!!" most of the posters itt are only saying that you are a neonazi, not that everyone is a neonazi. you also play too many video game's, which is an inherently neonazi trait e: proof: some researchers from a landmark darpa study published findings that strengthened thumb/palm muscles from prolonged joystick usage often results in subjects performing involuntary outward twitchings of the hand from time to time. these tics are noticeably similar to heiling, and often when one who is mistaken for having done a nazi salute in public, they end up rolling with it to avoid the perception they made a mistake that would make them look stupid/not worthy of earning 'chievos. Speaking of 'chievos, the researchers said that the 'chievo incentive structure mirrors the promotions, privileges and awards systems of historical far-right authoritarian regimes. One of the researchers ended up discovering that this was no coincidence, as they dug up internal documents of the first major video game's company and found that Ronald Videogames (inventor of video game's) was one of adolf himmler's "extra lives" Rodatose has issued a correction as of 06:13 on Oct 15, 2019 |
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Everyone know that Ukraine, or, in actuality, New Russia, was stolen from the Russian Republic by the West post WWI and legally belongs to them
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I like how skeletors_condom thinks that knowing the common language is just a common sense issue that debunks the principle of: the law should be equally accessible to anyone.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:I like how skeletors_condom thinks that knowing the common language is just a common sense issue that debunks the principle of: the law should be equally accessible to anyone. This is a good aspirational idea, however, it will not be viable in our lifetime. If you live in a country where most people don't speak your native tongue, you will have to adapt and learn the local language. That's just how it is. Shitposting is not going to change that. Have you ever lived for an extended period in a county/region where most people did not speak a language that you know? Rodatose posted:most of the posters itt are only saying that you are a neonazi, not that everyone is a neonazi. you also play too many video game's, which is an inherently neonazi trait The implication is "anyone who doesn't agree with me is a neonazi." I personally try to limit the use of terms like "nazi" or "fascist" in cases where there is actual right wing authoritarianism. Casually calling everyone who doesn't agree with naive pipe-dreams (e.g. Pener Kropoopkin's "thoughts" on the relationship between language and nation states) a "nazi" only dilutes the impact of the term.
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ironically the US has been moving to accommodate Spanish speakers, slowly but they are doing it. they still are even doing it despite the chud backlash and the concentration camps. turns out even most racists can figure out that accommodating people is just more practical than sticking your head in the sand
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Ukrainians only spoke in donkey brays before the noble Rus taught them the common tongue
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CharlestheHammer posted:ironically the US has been moving to accommodate Spanish speakers, slowly but they are doing it. I don't have any issues with accommodation. As I said before, if you live in socal, you probably want to know spanish in addition to english. Had the geopolitical situation been different (e.g. Ukraine took a course similar to Poland), I might have even supported making Russian a regional language in Donbass. But considering that Ukraine is at war with Russia and practically all Russians (80%+) have a committed, genuine and heartfelt desire to make Ukrainians suffer, this is simply a no go. They might not phrase things in this way, but the functional outcomes are identical. As the saying goes, all is fair in love and war. But to hit the pipe and come up with stoner fantasies about how "nation states shouldn't exist" and to deny geopolitical reality is stupid. I understand shitposting and or roleplaying as an "online leftist." That's all good. But to genuinely believe in delusions, that's a whole different story.
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Ukrainians willingly choose oppression over freedom they are inherently evil they choose to be evil willingly the only way to deal with them is to kill them i'm not nazi
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that’s literally the plot of some lovely movie about an adopted daughter from east Europe who develops a murderous electra complex, but oh hey she is actually an adult with an anti aging disease
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And yet the president is jewish (who won @ ~70%). As well as the former prime minister. The whole "keyboard socialist" take on Ukraine is ridiculous. And I say this as a non-white Ukrainian (who speaks Russian). Kolomoyskiy is a corrupt piece of poo poo. It's not about him being jewish. skeletors_condom has issued a correction as of 03:45 on Oct 22, 2019 |
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skeletors condom loving rules lol tell me more about the perfidious russian sir
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CharlestheHammer posted:ironically the US has been moving to accommodate Spanish speakers, slowly but they are doing it. the united states does not have an official language
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Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3 posted:the united states does not have an official language which is hosed up if you think about it. it’s totally something we would do.
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i do think anglophones have a tendency towards superpower arrogance when considering other countries' language policy, though - in my country, at least, a pro-norwegian policy (so opposition to english titles and names and poo poo) is considered a sort of culturally left position, and the people trying to get foreigners to learn norwegian are usually on the left - the right just likes demanding that they do learn norwegian without actually offering any resources for it
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V. Illych L. posted:iirc the at the time large german-speaking minority mobilised vigorously against it and now it's become a sort of weird limbo situation because you can't really use national state rhetoric to justify anything anymore fine okay the filthy palatinates threatened to riot funny how "threatened to riot" is the only way anything good happens
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V. Illych L. posted:i do think anglophones have a tendency towards superpower arrogance when considering other countries' language policy, though - in my country, at least, a pro-norwegian policy (so opposition to english titles and names and poo poo) is considered a sort of culturally left position, and the people trying to get foreigners to learn norwegian are usually on the left - the right just likes demanding that they do learn norwegian without actually offering any resources for it social democrats really are the left wing of fascism
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it's worth noting that borders create language and not the other way around
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Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3 posted:it's worth noting that borders create language and not the other way around neither of those are true
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skeletors_condom posted:And yet the president is jewish (who won @ ~70%). As well as the former prime minister. normally political protest isn't directed at places of worship, this was a hate crime. using the crimes of one member to justify intimidating a whole group is typical for bigots. Kolomoyskiy funds his own right wing militia too right? hosed up all around. the fascist militias trying and failing to get Maiden 2.0 to happen because Zelensky is pursuing a peace deal is pretty nice
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