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pieuvre armement
Feb 27, 2018

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcOo7d96puU

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pieuvre armement
Feb 27, 2018

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Chuka Umana posted:

How will traffic safety be enforced without state violence? What would you do to someone who chronically speeds? Suspend their license? What would you did if they disregard that punishment and drive anyway?

Nothing, since traffic laws are bullshit

Mayor Dave
Feb 20, 2009

Bernie the Snow Clown
Maybe you could have cops that aren't tools of white supremacy and capitalism

That's definitely not what we have tho

Captain_Maclaine
Sep 30, 2001

Every moment I'm alive, I pray for death!

puve posted:

Nothing, since traffic laws are bullshit

What's next, requiring a license to make toast in your own drat toaster?!

Chuka Umana
Apr 30, 2019

by sebmojo

puve posted:

Nothing, since traffic laws are bullshit

So you just think people should just drive however they want even if it puts the public in serious danger?

Mr. Dick
Aug 9, 2019

by Cyrano4747
9-11 except when you call to snitch on someone for being black or brown or poor the cops roll up and beat you for snitching.

Duscat
Jan 4, 2009
Fun Shoe
people should drive with the specific aim of putting the public in serious danger otherwise what are they wasting all those insurance premiums for

Chuka Umana
Apr 30, 2019

by sebmojo

Duscat posted:

people should drive with the specific aim of putting the public in serious danger otherwise what are they wasting all those insurance premiums for

I’m talking about the hypothetical situation with cspams ideal (ie. Trotskyist Socialist) state exists. insurance wouldn’t be a thing.

Also if they police have more “legitimacy” in your eyes in a Trotskyist society, would you call the cops on people of color then?

Duscat
Jan 4, 2009
Fun Shoe
*bang* *bang*

in the case of people driving vs. the public, we find that the public is a big whiny wuss who needs to learn to stand up for itself, and the people driving are loving awesome and the court hereby orders them to post all their dashcam footage on youtube

Duscat
Jan 4, 2009
Fun Shoe

Chuka Umana posted:

I’m talking about the hypothetical situation with cspams ideal (ie. Trotskyist Socialist) state exists. insurance wouldn’t be a thing.

Also if they police have more “legitimacy” in your eyes in a Trotskyist society, would you call the cops on people of color then?

why the gently caress are you talking about that

pieuvre armement
Feb 27, 2018

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Chuka Umana posted:

So you just think people should just drive however they want even if it puts the public in serious danger?

Yes, because it doesn't

pieuvre armement
Feb 27, 2018

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Traffic laws exist to institutionalize and extract revenue from individuals who, unlike businesses, mostly don't have politicians lawyers and lobbyists to protect them

Chuka Umana
Apr 30, 2019

by sebmojo
so in a Trotskyist state we just do whatever the gently caress we want on roads? I can drive at 100mphs towards you and kill you and I won’t have any repercussions?

Calibanibal
Aug 25, 2015

Chuka Umana posted:

so in a Trotskyist state we just do whatever the gently caress we want on roads? I can drive at 100mphs towards you and kill you and I won’t have any repercussions?

...No. Your neighbors will take your car away, beat you senseless and then either exile you or put you in a work camp

A Big Fuckin Hornet
Nov 1, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo
lmao "if it wasnt for Laws what would stop people from murdering other people" says the person with an extremely healthy moral compass

Chuka Umana
Apr 30, 2019

by sebmojo

Calibanibal posted:

...No. Your neighbors will take your car away, beat you senseless and then either exile you or put you in a work camp

what if I’ve already killed my neighbors?

pieuvre armement
Feb 27, 2018

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Chuka Umana posted:

so in a Trotskyist state we just do whatever the gently caress we want on roads? I can drive at 100mphs towards you and kill you and I won’t have any repercussions?

Driving fast and manslaughter are different things

Chuka Umana
Apr 30, 2019

by sebmojo

A Big Fuckin Hornet posted:

lmao "if it wasnt for Laws what would stop people from murdering other people" says the person with an extremely healthy moral compass

I’m sure what’s stopping the chuds from beating the poo poo out of every black person and Muslim they see is their “healthy moral compass”

Calibanibal
Aug 25, 2015

Chuka Umana posted:

what if I’ve already killed my neighbors?

I mean... what if you killed all the cops?

Chuka Umana
Apr 30, 2019

by sebmojo

puve posted:

Driving fast and manslaughter are different things

So literally the only bar for unsafe driving is if you kill someone or not?

Duscat
Jan 4, 2009
Fun Shoe
*bang* *bang*

the trotskyist state where people can mow down their neighbors in an orgy of vehicular slaugher is reminded that it is confined by reality to within the bounds of chuka umana's tiny little mind, and whatever goes there should probably stay there

Duscat
Jan 4, 2009
Fun Shoe
guys what if i thought of a ridiculously dumb thing and said it out loud, would that amuse this idiot chorus for fifteen minutes

Chuka Umana
Apr 30, 2019

by sebmojo

Duscat posted:

*bang* *bang*

the trotskyist state where people can mow down their neighbors in an orgy of vehicular slaugher is reminded that it is confined by reality to within the bounds of chuka umana's tiny little mind, and whatever goes there should probably stay there

nice cop out

you still can’t answer the basic question about who’s going to apply state violence at an individual level in a socialist state

the problem isn’t capitalism, it’s civilization. hunter gatherer societies didn’t have police but of course we can’t go back to that even though it’s scientifically proven to be a superior form of living

Duscat
Jan 4, 2009
Fun Shoe

Chuka Umana posted:

nice cop out

you still can’t answer the basic question about who’s going to apply state violence at an individual level in a socialist state

it's true, i can't, in a socialist state there is no law but that of the swiftest hammer and the deftest sickle, which we wield against our neighbors on the public highways

pieuvre armement
Feb 27, 2018

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Chuka Umana posted:

nice cop out

you still can’t answer the basic question about who’s going to apply state violence at an individual level in a socialist state

the problem isn’t capitalism, it’s civilization. hunter gatherer societies didn’t have police but of course we can’t go back to that even though it’s scientifically proven to be a superior form of living

Lmao

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.


You're as good a shot as a cop

pieuvre armement
Feb 27, 2018

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Tyler Durden from Fight Club testing prospective Project Mayhem recruits to make sure they know the proper procedures for changing lanes, parallel parking, etc

urf
Jul 12, 2009
what if we legalized all crime so we don't need cops?
makes u think
:abrathink:

pieuvre armement
Feb 27, 2018

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
I would be willing to consider keeping cops if they spent their time actually arresting rapists and "white collar" criminals instead of writing speeding tickets and shooting black people

420 Gank Mid
Dec 26, 2008

WARNING: This poster is a huge bitch!

puve posted:

I would be willing to consider keeping cops if they spent their time actually arresting rapists and "white collar" criminals instead of writing speeding tickets and shooting black people

Cop unions are never gonna budge on the two core issues of "immune to all prosecution" and "stage fun shootouts and car chases in public whenever we want"

breadshaped
Apr 1, 2010


Soiled Meat
I'm sad about this cop dying



quote:

K9 Verro was shot and killed after biting a sheriff's deputy in the area of Brooks Road and Trotters Way in Dallas, Georgia.

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Chuka Umana posted:

I’m saying is that there’s no alternative to the fundamental role of the police in any civilization. In a socialist state (I’m assuming you’re all trotskyists or some other form of state socialists) order will need to be enforced and dissent crushed.

Wow!

Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3
Nov 15, 2003

Bedshaped posted:

I'm sad about this cop dying



why are is he posing with his vest on

"we're going to a shooting today, deputy crewcut"

"ah, poo poo! i'd better be prepared"

"crewcut, it's a photo shoot..."

"oh. yeah."

"are you gonna take it off?"

"....nah."

Alastor_the_Stylish
Jul 25, 2006

WILL AMOUNT TO NOTHING IN LIFE.

puve posted:

Nothing, since traffic laws are bullshit

You can't speed when there's no cars and everyone takes a train that's on a pre-programmed schedule.

Professor of Cats
Mar 22, 2009

jesus christ the zipper on my pants broke and my weiner was just flopping around

luckily everyone was at lunch

AxGrap
Jan 11, 2005

☝☯ Ŧ𝓤𝒸Ҝ 𝓨𝕠𝔲! 🐼👽
It's worth imagining what public services should be like in a just society

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Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:
how many paul_soccers are we up to these days

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