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Jose posted:all cops deserve death
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you cannot reform a bullet striking its intended target. all you can do is melt it down and start again. with different metals. and different molds. what im saying is that cops are an instrument of oppression and an instrument intentionally built and formed for that purpose. you got nothign there to reform
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Aug 16, 2019 18:32
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Chuka Umana posted:Well how do you intend to enforce societal order in a socialist state? You can call them community enforcers or whatever and super promise they’re not actually police, but at the end of the day if they’re there to prevent total state collapse and to apply violence or imply the threat of violence they’re still police. if i was worried about people assaulting me on the streets, i'd carry a gun ...though someone mainly concerned about something like that, would make me prefer that he wasn't the guy carrying lethal instruments
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Aug 16, 2019 18:38
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what the gently caress are you on
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Aug 16, 2019 18:46
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i dunno if im im being majorly trolled, but did you actually suggest there that a prequisite to disempowering the police is a concurrently functioning and real alternative system of justice and social order? because yur right!
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Aug 16, 2019 18:51
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StashAugustine posted:The point is everyone who doesnt read crimethinc accepts that there needs to be some sort of force for preventing crime but the US police are so thoroughly hosed up that we basically need to start over hurray! someone got it! also thanks
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Aug 16, 2019 18:51
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Chuka Umana posted:I’m saying is that there’s no alternative to the fundamental role of the police in any civilization. In a socialist state (I’m assuming you’re all trotskyists or some other form of state socialists) order will need to be enforced and dissent crushed. cool
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Aug 16, 2019 18:54
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aww don't be like that, im enjoying myself
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Aug 16, 2019 19:08
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Chuka Umana posted:How will traffic safety be enforced without state violence? What would you do to someone who chronically speeds? Suspend their license? What would you did if they disregard that punishment and drive anyway? hmm... a reformative gulag system without violence of any kind
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Aug 16, 2019 19:22
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Calibanibal posted:if somebody is doing evil things you round up a posse and lynch them? its not loving rocket science lol ah, but it has to be focket science for his argument to work
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