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Borrovan posted:Also factories have closed down & poo poo.  Source: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-34463597 (Dunno about hotlink but seems to work) When you've seen everything shut down or be offshored for the last 50 years, someone telling you that more factories have shut down doesn't really come as a surprise or change your world view. RockyB fucked around with this message at 11:30 on Sep 1, 2019 |
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Just because I was set to thinking about it with the earlier factories comment, it really is amazing just how much industry we've lost in this country. Taking the little village of ~5,000 I grew up in, since the 70s we've lost a lemonade factory, multiple brickworks, all remnants of the hosiery industry that was built up from the 1840s and plenty of others. There's still a small industrial estate and a couple of plastic extrusion companies, but I'd say people employed locally in light industry has dropped from 50-odd percent to maybe 10. And all this has been replaced with ... well, commuter suburbs, really. My personal experience, before I left for the big city to become a member of the hated bourgeoisie, was being fired from my first job at a knitwear factory (as a cleaner) because it was being closed down and offshored to Romania. That would have been around 2008, which looking at it is just after Romania ascended to the EU... poo poo, am I brexiteer now?
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Sep 1, 2019 12:02
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Taear posted:People on the TV aren't real though. You get too many sad images (charities and etc) on the TV. Unless you specifically actually KNOW people affected like Jaeluni Asjil mentioned people just don't give a poo poo. A bit dated now, but one of the most compelling explanations for this remains the monkeysphere / Dunbar number: https://www.cracked.com/article_14990_what-monkeysphere.html https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunbar%27s_number If you kill one man it's murder, kill 100,000 with austerity and it's a statistic etc.
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Sep 1, 2019 12:07
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Josef bugman posted:I think the problem is that the service industry is not considered "real work" whilst also not giving actual results that are obvious to people. The big secret of the middle class is that most jobs aren't 'real work'. See: Bullshit Jobs, that CEO 55 hour work week chart, the commentariat...
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Sep 1, 2019 12:21
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I was reading a guardian article last night about labour proposing a 1% increase in NI to cover care costs, or something like that. All I could picture was Corbyn pointing at carehomes and saying *Nationalised*. Of course because the article was vaguely positive about labour policy it seems to have disappeared from view by now. Back to the monkeysphere thing, remember this was written in 2007: David Wong posted:If you think about it, our entire society has evolved around the limitations of the Monkeysphere. There is a reason why all of the really phat-rear end nations with the biggest SUV's with the shiniest 22-inch rims all have some kind of representative democracy (where you vote for people to do the governing for you) and all of them are, to some degree, capitalist (where people actually get to buy property and keep some of what they earn). The illusion has broken down, now we're all monkies flinging poo poo around.
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Sep 1, 2019 12:47
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I made a bet on the goodreads reading challenge at the new year, so I set myself the goal of re-reading all Pratchett's books this year, along with the culture series. As well as 150 books in general, because I read far too many trashy novels. I've chewed through everything I loved as a teenager and now I'm about to read the Shepherds crown for the first time. Kind of dreading it in a way, honestly. His later 'proper' novels definitely aren't as good as the early stuff, but the Tiffany Aching series is wonderful and definitely the kind of books I'd try to get my kids to read. That said I've also got some pretty battered redwall and swallows and amazons books floating around so I can introduce them to a Britain that is long gone, probably never existed for the vast majority of people, and is definitely not coming back after Brexit. The best Terry Pratchett thing: The Register still has the X-Clacks-Overhead header set. So do 950 other websites. https://xclacksoverhead.org/home/about https://xclacksoverhead.org/listing/the-signal
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Sep 1, 2019 17:48
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Guardian politics live has got about 10 posts in a row starting with 'Corbyn Says'. I keep waiting for the Simon says gotcha. 'Only the CUKs can save brexit'
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Sep 2, 2019 11:35
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On my current contract I spend three hours commuting to and from London every day. Managing to arrange a four day week and clawing back some of that time was an absolute godsend, and I recommend it to anyone.
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Sep 2, 2019 12:56
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Didn't word that very well, I meant three hours in total. Still means you're out the house for 12 hours a day, which screws with any kind of gym schedule or desire to cook etc. The main problem with a London commute tends to be the interchanges. Walk to train station, train, tube, change tube, walk again. Mostly I just try to squeeze duolingo or a bit of light reading into the gaps where I'm not moving or breathing in someone's armpit. Anyway, looking forward to the third general election in 5 years being called tomorrow.
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Personal bug bear, does anyone else get irritated when they see a 12 hour forex chart with ridiculous axes of less than a cent. Pisses me right off when BBC article do it. If the pound is the lowest against the dollar since 1985, or the last three years, or whatever, show me that context. Or are the market reports all being written by AIs with no sense of history now. Edit: every day for about the past 2 weeks there's been a 'pound slides!' article on the BBC. Then you look at the chart and it's €1.10. Which is slightly higher than a couple of weeks back. Just chum and churn and arrrgh stop amplifying the idiotic market traders as a story. RockyB fucked around with this message at 13:24 on Sep 3, 2019 |
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Sep 3, 2019 13:17
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I'm very much looking forward to back bench MP Theresa May voting against the government and getting booted out of the conservatives.
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Sep 3, 2019 16:08
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bump_fn posted:i finally gor imgur working wtf is up with jrm nappoing on the sofa Catching up, and two pages to go, but ... called it https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/picture/2019/sep/01/ben-jennings-on-boris-johnson-dominic-cummings-and-tory-rebels-cartoon
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Sep 3, 2019 22:02
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Point of order Anna Soubrey *Groans everywhere*
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Sep 3, 2019 22:18
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Doccykins posted:Digiminster votes are up LMAO is Rory really the only one without a photo here. I'm sure we can find some... EDIT: God loving drat this thread is moving fast tonight. RockyB fucked around with this message at 22:41 on Sep 3, 2019 |
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Sep 3, 2019 22:37
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thespaceinvader posted:I'm still pretty dubious that we can get a GE through. But we might get another short delay request maybe? I'm looking forward to The Pfeffel going to the EU and vetoing his own countries vote/submission/movement.
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Sep 3, 2019 22:43
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I'd just like to take a moment to remind everyone that this is Boris' second official day at work. That's the fastest I've ever seen someone escorted off the premises, except the one 'senior' developer who walked in, was sexist as gently caress to a very connected SME lady, and walked off the site four hours later.
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Sep 3, 2019 22:48
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Sajid Javid getting bodied repeatedly for going off topic. Stick to talking about money. EDIT: He just keeps bloody going. 10 minutes in and he's still going on about 'Labours recession' and not given a single actual detail of a spending plan. RockyB fucked around with this message at 13:12 on Sep 4, 2019 |
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Sep 4, 2019 13:07
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15 minutes in. Still not a single actual announcement. Back to attacking labour. I really regret watching this.
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Sep 4, 2019 13:17
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Watching parliament TV, everyone congratulating this Sikh lad for absolutely bollocking Boris earlier while they're waiting for the vote to come back. EDIT: Tanmanjeet Singh Dhesi.
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Sep 4, 2019 17:17
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Ayes have it. UNLOCK.
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Sep 4, 2019 17:20
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Scottish lad: 'evaporates like snow off a dyke'. Possibly the best expression of the day.
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Sep 4, 2019 17:29
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I'm even more confused than I normally am when watching this arcane bullshit. Did an amendment just get passed by accident while all the MPs were off voting on something else?
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Sep 4, 2019 19:32
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Clarke just smacking Boris in the face.
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Sep 4, 2019 20:06
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Mahoning posted:I can totally understand this SNP dude and I adore his accent, but the one with the red tie behind him that stood up and said something.....I have no clue what he said. I assume it was good. He said the tories are hosed in any election, if even Ruth Davies can't stomach Boris. And now the SNP is droning on about independence of course.
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Sep 4, 2019 20:17
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The twitch stream is about 15 seconds behind, it's annoying. That said... BEHAVE YOURSELF CLOWN
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Sep 4, 2019 20:33
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Sorry, working class lass does not know the word 'chitty'. Back to drama class.
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Sep 4, 2019 20:42
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And the petitioners remain, etcetera Can't even be bothered to finish it, c',mon
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Sep 4, 2019 21:50
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Delthalaz posted:OK so what happens next? Conservative lords to try to filibuster, have multiple heart attacks, legislation passes lords by the skin of its teeth, Corbyn finally puts a bangin' VONC on it. EDIT: Reminder, this was Boris' THIRD DAY officially on the job. RockyB fucked around with this message at 22:01 on Sep 4, 2019 |
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Sep 4, 2019 21:59
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Cross posting from doomsday economics: Two interesting tidbits I picked up today, although I can't give sources for doxxing / inadequate Google fu reasons. First, at the moment carbon credits are going for €50/ton in the UK energy sector, which is ~60‰ of the total price of fossil fuel generation. Wonder how much the disaster capitalists stand to gain from crashing out of the EU and not having to deal with those pesky things anymore... Second, the UK window to reclaim PPI has just closed after paying out about £36 billion. The bank of England has said that this has translated into the same economic impact as £150 billion of quantative easing. If the whole reason the economy hasn't crashed yet is a QE effect from banks being forced to pay back customers they ripped off I will laugh my arse off.
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Sep 5, 2019 17:01
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Man, Marina is usually a least somewhat amusing but that was just absolutely brutal. Oh dear, that makes three guardian columists I actually like. Time to go read some Rob Liddle to counterbalance.
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Sep 6, 2019 20:59
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Ms Adequate posted:Owen Jones rting reports that John Mann's jumped ship to sabotage Labour in the runup to the election: Oh how surprising, right wing MP about to be pushed out of the party resigns and starts attacking the party. From the comments on that though, David Graeber has an excellent rebuttal which apparantly he's had trouble getting published https://twitter.com/davidgraeber/status/1170032483859148800 Also that downfall edit earlier is possibly the best one I've ever seen. They even synced up the 'Stalin'.
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Sep 7, 2019 21:48
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Swinson shh, just stop it. You have no presence or charisma, especially following the SNP and 'reasonable tory'.
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Sep 9, 2019 23:44
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I actually just had to mute her, an amazingly grating voice and as someone said earlier it sounds like she's addressing a sixth form politics class. Anyway Ian Blackford was spitting fire earlier. One of these days I'll work out the twitters well enough to cut segments like that for the threads edification.
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Sep 9, 2019 23:49
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Bercow: I've never met a situation where the milk man can't be heard. EDIT: Milwk?
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Sep 10, 2019 00:18
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Finally, they've stopped blustering for for ten minutes or so. Will this be Bercows last DIVISSSSSSSSION? (No, it won't, The Pfeffel will fail).
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:It'd be much naughtier than running through the fields of wheat hey-yo! quote:By now we are eating the pudding, a small, sickly sweet brown ball. I throw him the question that has made other politicians stumble: “What’s the naughtiest thing you’ve ever done?” Still think that's one of the best things to come out of this week. Finally we've found the one honest politician. I guess every politician has workshopped their answer to this after the May o' Wheat, but drat.
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Sep 10, 2019 00:27
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So, the plan here is for the SNP to keep parliment open for the next five weeks by continuously raising points of order? Yeah time for sleep.
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Sep 10, 2019 00:53
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Private Speech posted:A complete chat post but I've been learning Arabic lately and  Got that off Duolingo the other day. Making up a little story to go with some of the more amusing combos is the best part.
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Cool, time for civil war with a renegade parliament. Who am I kidding, this is probably as meaningless as Boris refusing to disclose the documents today and everyone just kinda sitting around going ... okay so now what do we do.
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Nuclear Spoon posted:btw repeatedly calling johnson "de pfeffel" has identical energy to #theresistance types calling their president "drumpf" It's a vague attempt to dissociate 'Boris' the lovable scamp media persona exemplified by HIGNFY and media taint licking from 'Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson', our current bumbling if not sinisterly incompetent prime minister.
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