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Borrovan posted:Few people vote based on the individual candidate anyway, and Johnson is legit ready, willing & able to do a NDB, and you know he's gonna campaign hard on "vote Tory to protect Brexit". Having the incumbent candidate is usually worth about 5%. Think BxP will do some damage but be underwhelming overall. The new UKIP on every level. They will likely at least lead to some LD gains in the South West.
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Mr Phillby posted:Basically, how do I help this kid? Like I can pick apart the toxic poo poo and point out how dumb and irrational his father is being, but I can't make it stop, I'm afraid that telling him to push back against his dad might make things worse. Good on you for meeting him but as you've realised you can't fix it. Neither could you if you were a highly qualified therapist or similar. He needs to work out what he wants to do. Ask a lot of questions about how he is, what he's experienced and what he would like to do next. Just genuinely listening to the answers will help a lot. Disclaimer: As just about the only 'religious' person in this thread I'm no expert on LGBT stuff, although perhaps I should be, this answer just comes from my human experience.
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HJB posted:Not related to anything but I was looking around for various things and saw that Tony Benn once had an article printed in an edition of the Spoons mag. It also made me realise that Tim Martin's been thankfully quiet lately. Probably working on right to remain applications for half his workforce.
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Chuka Umana posted:Plot twist: the government will be saved by the Lib Dems and Change UK today. I seriously worry the CUKers will abstain. They all thought they were Macron and now they're being asked to vote to end their careers.
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Sep 3, 2019 11:04
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Niric posted:Splitters! That's a standard CoS building isn't it? There is definitely a more joyless branch than the Wee Frees - Brethren - which I think are a kind of Free Presbyterian.
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forkboy84 posted:The Wee Frees are a right miserable bunch but holy poo poo they look like party animals next to the Wee Wee Frees, aka the Free Presbyterian Church of Scotland. Guy I used to work with would tell us about staying with his Wee Wee Free aunt on Skye as a kid, she'd not even cook on the sabbath, you'd just get a cold meal prepared 24 hours earlier. Guavanaut posted:*extremely Ian Paisley voice* They also mock God by turning lights on and off on the Sabbath by putting a dark thing over them. God knows what you're doing. Sabbath mode refrigerators are worse than masturbation. Sabbath is cool and good and everyone should do it. I am dead serious about this, regardless of your faith having a day properly off buying poo poo and trying to get ahead, worrying about buying poo poo and trying to get ahead, and soothing the pain of your week buying poo poo and trying to get ahead by over consuming the poo poo you've bought is not only hugely beneficial for your wellbeing but a genuine statement against the capital driven consumerist nightmare so many of us have been sucked into. I don't mean get all legalistic about it and serve cold food though, cold food in December on Skye would suck, Sabbath is a feast day where you don't wash up. Cook the day before, eat cake, go for a walk, worry about nothing, reflect, read, play board games with your kids, have sex not with your kids, sleep and wake up ready to fight the good fight on Monday.
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forkboy84 posted:A proper day of rest is good like, but specifically the Sabbath as envisioned by these freakish offshoots of the CoS is poo poo. My grandad was Free Church (because again, Skye. Or Raasay which is an island next to Skye) and my mam has stories of Sundays as a kid just being incredibly poo poo. You were only allowed to go to church & read the Bible and that was that. And they didn't even go to church that often because he was a shepherd & so they'd live really rurally, miles from the local church so mostly it was just sitting quietly reading the Bible all day. Then they got a telly and suddenly he wasn't so fussed about observing the Sabbath quite so strictly, funny that. That does sound like it sucked. It's a pity but like a lot of very religious people it sounds like they didn't get it. Without going into the Law, and the Mishna etc. and risking a religion derail there is a story in the New Testament where Jesus specifically uses overly rules based Sabbath as an example of religion for rules sake being bad. Anyway I still think it's worth saying because now most people have the opposite problem.
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Mrenda posted:I remember reading a theory that this is why Euro (German) boardgames became such a big thing. In protestant Germany, taking the day to do all the respectful of god stuff, boardgames were something that was allowed by most adherents. So being one of the things allowed it just grew and grew. That's pretty cool. If you ever remember where you read it I'm that niche audience you've been looking for.
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Hentai Jihadist posted:every day i think back with regret... The most hilarious thing about that tweet is that it implies the Tory strategy is going really well.
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Brewdog is rightly dunked on nowadays as it often conspicuously fails to live out its values.  Beer is fine though and there are worse companies.
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crispix posted:Pretty sure that's Lothian Road in Edinburgh. I think you're right, good spot if so.
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el dingo posted:Like I don't mind if you wanna go big and make money but don't pretend you're some little guy slugging it out with the German consortiums any more in the name of good beer. Which is also Brewdog in a nut shell, the only difference being that they might as well be inBev themselves now. Success story? Sure. "Punk"? not any longer. I would have so much more respect for them if they actually socialised profits among their members. Quite like a Neck Oil. Much prefer Siren's Sound Wave. Peak beer for me despite trying far too many like the toff I am. suck my woke dick posted:i'm the beer without borders sign on a lovely pallet fence I'm the faceless drone in the white t-shirt.
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Eschenique posted:https://twitter.com/OwenJones84/status/1173906570696110086?s=20 Glee club. Yes I am serious. They also have tunes about Charlie Kennedy being an alky.
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Acton has a healthy goon population it seems... Goon meet at the G&D? So sorry to hear the other thread news. It's ok to not be ok. Zalakwe fucked around with this message at 20:06 on Sep 17, 2019 |
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Tijuana Bibliophile posted:i don't care for the "broad church" analogy really, it makes no sense to me. what's the significance of the breadth? is it so you can have more gods there, or more simultaneous preachers? does the priest measure the width of the church before diving into the sermon, so they can cut out the homophobic stuff if there's too much breadth, or does it mean you've got space for people with any amount of homophobic tendency. Rarity posted:The broad church has always been used by party members on the political outskirts of their party to attack the current leadership. It's completely meaningless as a valid political concept. I think it works really well as an analogy when your trying to build mass movement. The reality is that people come from all sorts of different backgrounds and educational levels etc. You are simply not going to find enough consensus around certain contraversial issues. You can aspire to it, by challenging those comfortable in their core values to keep thinking (like this thread does), but to start exuding people because of stuff that isn't core is not productive In the actual church you would say there are a few things everyone must believe to have a faith, often the Nicene creed (at least on paper) in Protestant denominations. Everything else are 'disputable matters', a line of Paul's (from Corinthians I think) when he was encouraging the young church to focus on what's important and stop bickering. So for leftists we can hopefully all agree that Nazis are bad, but you may not necessarily agree what to do about that. The real difficulties come when you disagree about what you must believe.
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Another Person posted:i feel like, especially since 2010, tactical voting has gained more and more currency as an idea online than it really deserves merit for, definitely more discussion than it sees practice. it is a somewhat academic stance to take towards voting, one which very few in the electorate can be bothered with due to the prerequisite research that you need to invest in to get anything out of, and due to the fact that you are effectively gambling on believing that the electorate will not change in any radical fashion compared to the previous election. ie, will turnout change, will a new divisive issue develop, will there be a local scandal, etc. you are basically hoping that the projection someone has made based on last election holds true in this election. some real black box voting, where the only thing that matters to a vote is the strategy and not the policies, people or events that might drive such a decision. it is a psephologists game, and nobody elses. If you have worked a seat for a while, have a bank of data and a ground game you can make huge inroads by squeezing for tactical votes. It can take a couple of election cycles to work though. Back when I was a campaign manager we were hammering four districts with a tactical vote message, it didn't really land and we lost by a 0.3%. At the next election we deployed the same message updated with "if just 300 voters had switched blah blah" and we achieved a huge swing in those areas, we still lost but that's politics. For a long while this was the only way the Lib Dems ever won a seat and they use the tactic extensively to this day. Hang around politicos and it won't be long until you hear about once of their infamous bar charts. I would 100% vote tactically for the Lib Dem in a Tory/Lib Dem marginal. It has more chance of delivering a Labour government than any other action I can take. Obviously I will be off campaigning elsewhere because who cares about that seat, if by some quirk of fate Labour take it it is very unlikely to be anything to do with campaigning on the ground. Zalakwe fucked around with this message at 16:20 on Sep 26, 2019 |
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Miftan posted:You have a lot more faith in the lib dems not being cowards and backstabbing labour to side with the tories than me It's not about that, it's about Labour having the highest number of MPs if at all possible so their seen as having the moral right to govern. As someone mentioned a page ago Labour - 300, Tories - 299, LDs - 51 is a far better result than Labour 300, Tories 300, LDs - 50. Darth Walrus posted:This is more complicated than it seems because of the nature of the Lib Dems' opposition to the Tories. They're trying to cannibalise them, stripping away as many Cameron Conservatives as they can. They won't prop up Johnson, but only because they see an opportunity for themselves to become a robber-baron right-wing government like the one that pushed us to the brink from 2010 to 2015. They're dangerous because they're offering superficial answers to deep-rooted problems while continuing the policies and mindset that got us into this whole mess in the first place. Think of the Lib Dems, the BXP, and the Tories as engaged in a three-way civil war for the future of the British right and you won't go far wrong. This is also true, the Lib Dems have always tried to look both ways but right now they are tacking squarely right. I think people saying that Swinson is throwing away her seat by comparing Scottish to English nationalism are missing the point entirely. She won't convince nationalists, except maybe some right of centre remainers, she is looking for the Tory votes. Might put some dosh on her holding if the odds are decent actually. Zalakwe fucked around with this message at 16:37 on Sep 26, 2019 |
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