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Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

OwlFancier posted:

When you don't understand what the EU does at all (which if you're voting to leave it, you almost certainly don't) it's not hard to also fail to understand why leaving it might be quite harmful.

It doesn't require an increase in ignorance, basically.

But also because it's been 3 years and nothing has happened yet (because we haven't left yet and also things have gotten worse)

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Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Borrovan posted:

uh yeah.

I've already talked a bit about judicial review this week (& honestly I'm not particularly an expert in it, but I know some stuff). Government decisions are subject to challenge through the courts in a way that Acts of Parliament just aren't. If Government specifically defied an Act of Parliament, the courts would have the authority to say "nope, that's illegal, don't do that", and if Government did it anyway they would be in contempt of court, and liable to have the rozzers come round and chuck them in prison for 2 years.

Whether that'd actually happen or not is another question, but that's the law.

If the government goes to prison for 2 years and so are disqualified from being MPs thus cancelling NDB I would probably die of laughter.

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

quote:

Mr Corbyn’s past opposition to Nato and the Trident nuclear deterrent and his onetime support for the Venezuelan regime continue to cause concern.

What does this have to do with Corbyn's economic policies that you're claiming to review, you hacks.

quote:

The financial crisis created the opportunity the Corbynites were waiting for.
Yeah, we were loving gagging for a financial crisis. This is a correct conclusion.

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

re: that FT article

quote:

Companies that fail to meet environmental criteria could be delisted from the London Stock Exchange.


Did anybody hear about this? It's an amazing policy!

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

TACD posted:

Absolutely typical Corbynista plotting, using the massive systemic failures of capitalism as some sort of perverted rationale for doing away with capitalism. Just so predictable.

Almost as predictable as the systemic failures (or successes, I guess, depending on if you're rich or not) of capitalism!

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Surprise Giraffe posted:

Is there anything to stop bojo actually pushing the exit date backwards? Might be their last shot if they think they're going to be kicked out anyway. Wouldn't really make a difference to the degree of chaos and the blaming the mess on remainers/Corbyn strategy.

I think any change in date requires EU approval.

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Personally I really like the Moist Von Lipwig books. So you've got Going Postal, then Making Money, then Raising Steam (which isn't as good as the others)

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Taear posted:

Yea I read them in production order when they were new and it definitely works, I think it might get a bit much reading them any other way.

There's a lot of one shots and the sub-series are usually self contained progression wise - maybe not with the introduction of new characters but it's usually not that bad. I'd say publication order is probably best unless you want a specific sub-series. Death is usually pretty detached from Ankh Morpork business as well iirc

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

happyhippy posted:

Good books, but they have already predefined characters that were set up in previous books.
Like Golems and Angua, rather read their origins before.

edit: I would read them in publishing order. You get to see Pratchett's style evolving, from more fantasy trope turning on their head at the start, to just normal mind expanding introspectives in later books.

Yeah that's fair. I think I read about Angua before I read her introduction book and was very confused about her sense of smell or something.

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Feinne posted:

Is it weird that my personal favorite of the Watch ones is Feet of Clay?

Nah, feet of clay is great.

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

So 2 of my friends run a Crumpet Bar in Tel Aviv. Its essentially a bar selling booze, Pimm's (which is impossible to get in Israel) and crumpets with fancy toppings. Like, beef and mash and poo poo. The menu is all named for famous brits and their veggie option is called the Jeremy Corbyn.

Miftan fucked around with this message at 14:21 on Sep 2, 2019

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

forkboy84 posted:

Bold naming a meal after history's greatest antisemitic monster. And in Israel at that. Appalling

They were both raised on a kibbutz and one of them is still an actual communist. They're good lads. Plus the description is basically "Labour's flagship Crumpet. A veggie Crumpet for leftists"

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

forkboy84 posted:

They offer The Miftan, which is a crumpet with a chocolate spread made by melting down a Terry's Chocolate Orange.

Disgusting. I'll translate the full menu for you lot shortly.

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

forkboy84 posted:

Whole day off so I could be around for the plumber to arrive because there's some problem with a leak in the pipe between the oil tank and the central heating system and apparently that's a job for the plumber? I dunno, was just told he'd arrive first thing and now it's 3:30 and I could have gone to slept for 2 hours longer, gone to town and back for some shopping and done all the dishes in the time I've been waiting. It's balls.

You.. You can do the dishes while waiting for the plumber.

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Tesseraction posted:

I'm assuming it's more like *ding dong* "awww gently caress gently caress gently caress my hands are covered in suds and gravy" *rinses hands, hurriedly dries hands, runs to the front door in time to see van drive away with angry plumber*

You open the door with gravy and soapy hands to assert dominance.

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

CRUMPET MENU:

The Churchill - They say this crumpet is the only thing Churchill ate in the bunker during the war.
Slow cooked veal/calf meat on crunchy sweet potato mash with a wine syrup

The Lord Balfour - The famous crumpet that Balfour ate before signing his famous declaration (editor's note: the declaration was assuring the jews in palestine that they'll be able to live there or something, it's very famous in Israel and is taught in high school history as a pivotal moment). They say he signed it with the leftover sauce.
Cubed goose in sichuan sauce on cabbage-turnip cream with herbs

The Stephen Hawking - His theory of black holes was based on the bubbles in the crumpet's dough.
Chopped liver on mash potatoes spiced with horse radish and onion jam

The Jeremy Corbyn - The Labour Party's flagship crumpet. For vegeterian leftists.
Crispy eggplant on cold salsa and pink tehini.

The Duchess Meghan Markle - The say that when she married Prince Harry they had Nutella crumpets instead of a wedding cake
Bananas tempura'd in salty chococlate crunch, whipped cream and nutella.

The John Cleese - The song 'always look on the bright side of life' was written about Cleese's favourite cheesecake crumpet
Cream cheese with hot fruit salad and balsamic vinegar

Elizabeth the 2nd - Th classic crumpet. Just like the queen has on saturday morning.
Butter, honey, and jam.

Corbyn the second most expensive thing on the menu (lol)

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Continuity RCP posted:

This is a hate crime

I mean the translations are kinda wack because I'm not an expert on culinary stuff, but either way, yes.

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Failed Imagineer posted:

Beginning to think Israel might be bad

tbh Israel is bad for other reasons, this is just fancy pants trained chefs trying to do a classic 'better' (read: more expensive). I still think Corbyn sounds delicious.

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

StarkingBarfish posted:

How the gently caress does 'crunchy mash' work? That's like saying fried soup or boiled sorbet damnit.

Eh, it's a bit of a weird translation since the word in hebrew is actually 'crunch' in English. I'd assume it's some sort of 'creamy' sweet potato (so mash) with crunchy bits in it, like teeny tiny fried sweet potatoes/skins maybe?

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Looke posted:

Say Boris calls for a vote on a GE and Parliament decided actually we don’t want that, enact our legislation. What happens then?

I think the universe implodes because the opposition just voted against an election.

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Guavanaut posted:

I wonder what the flagbot is up to right no...


:staredog:

The Israeli Red Cross is actually the Red Star of David and looks like that without the red lines.

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

goddamnedtwisto posted:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finchley_and_Golders_Green_(UK_Parliament_constituency) - 1,600 Tory majority
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hendon_(UK_Parliament_constituency) - 1,000 Tory majority
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chipping_Barnet_(UK_Parliament_constituency) - 300 Tory majority

If this ends up being enough to flip the election I'm going to go live in a cave because there's no possible way of topping it.

That would genuinely be really funny.

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Really any speaker who doesn't compel MPs to ACTUALLY ANSWER the question they get is useless. Jesus christ, what's even the point of asking questions if nobody ever answers them?

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

CoS (M-L)

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

forkboy84 posted:

The Wee Frees are a right miserable bunch but holy poo poo they look like party animals next to the Wee Wee Frees, aka the Free Presbyterian Church of Scotland. Guy I used to work with would tell us about staying with his Wee Wee Free aunt on Skye as a kid, she'd not even cook on the sabbath, you'd just get a cold meal prepared 24 hours earlier.

But the Free Church are grim enough, single most I've weeped at a funeral was a family friend I'd not seen in a decade whose service was in a Free Church. gently caress, it was grimmer than any of my own grandparents, or my uncle or aunt. Just relentless misery.

It's like the usual pessimism of Calvinism ramped up a thousand times.

Even ultra orthodox jews have hot meals on the sabbath. Ya'll wild. (hot plates are apparently allowed as long as you turn them on before the sabbath)

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Guavanaut posted:

*extremely Ian Paisley voice* They also mock God by turning lights on and off on the Sabbath by putting a dark thing over them. God knows what you're doing. Sabbath mode refrigerators are worse than masturbation.

*shrug* mocking god is basically built into the religion.

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Failed Imagineer posted:

The theme song could be the jaunty "Master of The House" song from Les Mis re-done as "Speaker of The House" with bawdy lyrics about what a top shagger he is

Go on, post the whole thing then.

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...


Shameful stuff from The Daily Show. That's not a Scottish MP they've dubbed over How To Train Your Dragon - it's loving Bercow.

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Rahzmataz posted:

Does anyone have a link to the UKMT Discord, assuming i'm right in thinking that was a thing?

https://discord.gg/6c56vW

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

baka kaba posted:

Morbidly curious to know if Miftan has partaken in the caramac

Never heard of it. I did like Angel Delight or whatever it's called as a child.

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Clean Your Teeth posted:

For posterity, and in case they remove it, this is the picture the telegraph have decided to put on their home page:


Holy poo poo

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Ms Fuchi posted:

Cons apparently suck at demonstrating, I guess I shouldn't be surprised

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yy3AO-0WmZk&t=62s

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Ms Adequate posted:

Holy poo poo Miftan you sound EXACTLY like someone I know only I have no idea who :psyduck:

Glad to hear I'm not the only person with this clusterfuck of a voice.

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...


Podcast already made this joke :colbert: (along with the rest of the Internet)

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Snipee posted:

As someone who is much more familiar with US politics, I’m a little surprised that there isn’t more talk about demographic changes in the UK. I would have hoped that simply as a function of time, many thousands of older (and whiter) reactionaries would have died and that many thousands of younger, more diverse socialists would have become eligible to vote over the last three years since the first Brexit vote. Three years is admittedly not a lot of time, but doesn’t this help on the margins?

Unless this all happened in about 50 targeted constituencies it doesn't matter. It's a thing, but I don't think it's as big as people make it out to be considering First Past the Post. It's far more relevant to popular votes like say... A second ref

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

BoJo is such a massive gently caress up that if he goes to prison as en electioneering tactic he'll probably get sent away for over a year which will make him ineligible to stand for MP.

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Failed Imagineer posted:

https://twitter.com/JGForsyth/status/1169955425070067715?s=19

Bold strategy from the UK to antagonise and abuse the Irish government, considering

Well its been UK policy for hundreds of years, so why would they stop now?

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

The_Doctor posted:

So is that it? Brexit now held off till Jan 31st?

Have to go through the motions, but assuming Boris doesn't pull a stinker and the EU council approves, yeah.

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

coffeetable posted:

here's a map of the good parts of london



Ah yes, the bits without the red flags.

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Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Vincent Van Goatse posted:

There's like three Taco Bells in Britain and one of the them is (was?) in the Manchester Arndale food court. Unfortunately they don't serve the insane sorts of things you get from American Taco Bells which are IMO the entire reason to eat at a Taco Bell and not at a hole-in-the-wall Mexican food place run by undocumented immigrants.

The UK just can't do Mexican food. There's a place called Wahaca, for poo poo's sake. It's spelled Oaxaca, pendejos.

UK's got good Burrito places. I like Tortilla and Bar Burrito. There's also Zapatista in Newcastle which is good and modeled after the Zapatistas.

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