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Antisemitic cartoons in the OP, shameful stuff.
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Crankit posted:What is the likely brex it outcome now? No deal brexit is the default option and is the most likely outcome.
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Sep 1, 2019 00:22
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Gatts posted:Good luck to the UK. I hope you can return to the EU, like, a couple Parliment changes after this whole Brexit situation. "Baby, it was just a temporary set back. We're all good now." After Greece/troika 08 loving lmao at any relationship analogy that doesn't cast the EU as brutal domestic abuser.
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Sep 1, 2019 00:37
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Latitude Ocotpus posted:So what time tomorrow do we find out if they manage to block no deal / cause an election? Want to know which news to pay attention to in work tomorrow ... The vote causing an election is up in the air, Johnsons regime has said they might deign to consider it a no confidence vote so no matter when the parliamentary vote comes in there's no timetable on when/if it is considered no confidence and so general election. Also the vote isn't to block no deal, it's just to kick the can down the road yet again.
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Sep 2, 2019 23:16
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Going old school D&D here, got a theory. The perpetual problem the Liberal Democrats have is they lack a political project. Aside from Kennedy vs Blair when the Lib Dems were legit good on civil liberties they've always been this sensible middle-ground angle, but after the coalition showed that non-politicism is functionally surrender to the right and as 'yeah we're fine with gays' isn't differentiating anymore they just don't have anything. Then brexit looms and the Lib Dems get a surge in the EU elections. While Labour are being nerds saying '6 tests' 'jobs first brexit' etc the Lib Dems are saying 'Bollocks to Brexit mate' and doing really well on that strong, simple stance, even getting seats from shitlib MP defections. Now they finally have a political project in being the most dedicated pro-EU party. Stopping brexit from happening is actually pretty simple, not necessarily easy but it's a simple progression. You cast doubt on how legitimate the initial vote was. You block any deals that would mean leaving actually happens. You interfere with the whole process until going back to the people appears the only way to break the impasse, and you postpone it as long as possible because let us not forget every day 1,300 Leave voters die. You make a second referendum seem the most logical option and so mitigate the damage blatantly noping out on a referendum might cause. It's super simple and Vince Cable was following it to the letter but Jo Swinson took over and started making some weird choices here's the 3 big ones. A few months ago Swinson said that even if a hypothetical second referendum said Leave the Lib Dems would still not recognise it as legit it https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/07/23/lib-dem-leader-jo-swinson-says-would-vote-against-brexit-even/ which counters the whole 'aw shucks we're forced into it' narrative that is essential to the simple path to the second referendum that stops brexit. Then after Corbyn laid out the temporary national unity government plan, that let's be clear could have worked, Swinson immediately blocked the entire concept https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/aug/25/jo-swinson-rejection-jeremy-corbyn-unity-pm-petulant-barry-gardiner And now once Labour presented a final stage of the simple no brexit strategy, that we have a General Election, Labour/the Leave coalition wins, before the end of January they squeeze in enough time to go to the EU and confirm their nerdy 6 tests stuff is bollocks and the result is Mays deal, and then they explicitly say they will hold a confirmatory vote that is Deal vs Remain that Remain would win, Swinsons response is suddenly shifting the Lib Dem stance to revoking Article 50 https://www.ft.com/content/dc588356-d3e6-11e9-8367-807ebd53ab77 Revoking Article 50 obviously has no chance of passing Parliament, it can only be political positioning. Swinson has been consistently blocking the meaningful methods of stopping brexit happening while also positioning the Lib Dems as so super anti-brexit you guys, and it's because resisting brexit is a briefly successful political project but you know what would be a powerful, ongoing project? Rejoining the EU. If brexit is stopped then the Lib Dem boost ends, it's back to business as usual where the people either hate or ignore the Lib Dems. But being the pro-EU vanguard party, with a project to rejoin, that's a decade long endeavour that gives the Lib Dems a base and a purpose and potentially some seats vs no seats. Maybe I'm crazy but pay a bit of attention to Swinson and the Lib Dems, there is some extremely competent bullshit happening here.
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Sep 11, 2019 00:42
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NotJustANumber99 posted:Is there anyone who posts in this thread that doesn't belong in games workshop? I support the tabletop renaissance so do not debase myself with the loathsome expensive Space Marine, we only buy crowdfunded board games with lots of lovely miniatures and obtuse rules now. Too obnoxious to belong in Games Workshop. Gorn Myson posted:lol the Lib Dems saw Kamala Harris' idea for helping out students and thought she was on the right track. And every policy they make has this huge, vague, looming "or else" at the end of it. Like here's 9k for education, hope you didn't learn about something you love guess you should have studied 'whatever career is least poo poo in op-eds that moment', hope you didn't do just okay instead of really well guess you should have been better at the arbitrary testing scheme, hope you didn't study 'whatever career is least poo poo in op-eds that moment' you bitch-rear end radiographer enjoy AI lmao, hope you didn't fall for one of the thousands of grift colleges that just sprung up because you were desperate to improve your life and all we offered was this weak-rear end non-principled exploitable tuft. gently caress this crap just help the working class, give them back the money the pedo yacht millionaires are stealing from them on a technicality, give them some legal rights and dignity these Harris Lib-Dem scraps are loving nothing. The Rees-Mogg that politely spits in your face is morally and intellectually more honest than these loving libs and they have the same ends.
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Sep 13, 2019 00:11
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Seems about right, people are just confused at the moment. Tom Watson and Blair coming out saying a second referendum has to happen before a general election was a really good sign, the pedo elite are concerned that a general election would produce more growth in the labour vote and would potentially lead to a labour/rainbow coalition government united around second-ref.
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Sep 15, 2019 00:27
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OwlFancier posted:Works on multiple levels as the subject is a nonce. I'm solid Epstein brained but haven't seen anything suggesting Swinson is even nonce-adjacent, are you basing that on anything particular or is it just that supporting austerity and capital inequality inherently helps the pedos at every level of socioeconomic status? Also good meme nice to see I'm not the only one on the 'Lib Dem leadership don't actually want to stop brexit' train. Hentai Jihadist posted:It's good for Labour though, the worry always was that the LDs would be the lefty remain party but I think they've got a (mistaken) whiff of supplanting the tories as the centre right party. I don't think it's necessarily mistaken, it's the only strong post-coalition angle they've taken, but it's absolutely ignoring the last four years. The tories are cracking themselves apart and their donors/supporters in the right-wing press are fickle, New Labour proved that the tories no longer looking like the safest bet absolutely fucks the Conservative Party. If the Lib Dems have The Campaign to Rejoin Europe for the next decade and go full 'murder the poor but in a nice way' then the establishment support could easily loving flow to them,
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Sep 16, 2019 22:57
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Hentai Jihadist posted:Like it's really remarkable she managed to stay under the radar during the coaliton and now she's leader she's just very up front about how tory she is and how the libdems are gonna be the new tory party. The leadership campaign didn't get much coverage but Swinson was the candidate saying "mistakes were made during the coalition" so kinda hosed up she's heel-turning so fast. Guess the mistakes made were not making the eugenics programme against the disabled explicit and only figuratively making GBS threads on renters, rather than a means-tested programme to decide precisely how much of Ken Clarkes foul-smelling liquid feces should be dripped onto each individuals upper forehead.
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Sep 16, 2019 23:02
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Hentai Jihadist posted:Actually that's a fun line of discussion. Who are your favourite characters in politics? Farage as either legitimate fascist-leader-waiting-in-the-wings or impotent banker twat watching his dreams fail is very schrondinger at the moment but I'm enjoying both potential timelines, Swinson immediately become the Platonic ideal of a Lib Dem is good stuff that I think bodes well for future plot-lines. Boris hasn't landed well, his behaviours been very predictable, but there's gonna be some rubber-hitting-the-road moments coming that could be dramatic. Obviously the CUKs and their ongoing adventures are always amusing, and Lammy flailing between ultra-woke Twitter vs Question Time audiences is always funny, Khan positioning for leadership while also flopping like a dishrag on everything that matters for Londoners is compelling like a car crash is but my absolute favourite still has to be Corbyn, the smear campaigns and endless op-eds by human vermin comprising our media class against him and he's still saying like 'yeah gently caress the bankers unions own', it's pure british bulldog grit I love it.
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Sep 16, 2019 23:31
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Bobby Deluxe posted:I think Rory Stewart is probably a guilty pleasure, because he's such a failperson but he always seems so earnest and excited about whatever he's failing at. I did like Rory Stewart but he stopped the earnest dork act when he stopped campaigning so gently caress him, if he'd kept up even 'here's me tweeting 2 minutes talking to a normal human' he could easily have been favourite material but he was too lazy.
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Sep 16, 2019 23:46
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It's gonna be really funny over the next five years when NUS accomplished child vampires try and get into proper politics. The future is fascism or socialism and the base of both is briefly united in correctly hating the NUS gremlins.
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Sep 17, 2019 23:11
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Imagine you're a young person that goes to university; your mind expands a little, you begin to flex your wings and exercise your own political agency, you feel meaningfully involved in a movement fighting for a better world and then some NUS ultra-woke neolib ghoul spins every moment of material praxis you and your friends engaged in so they can get an internship with Owen Smith.
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Sep 17, 2019 23:39
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Tesseraction posted:Big John has been courting them for a while. Turns out they like someone who understands how economics works over the party of masturbating over Brexit and racism. "Only Marxists understand how capitalism actually works" was never just a meme. The FT are scum but the rubber is hitting the road and even the capitalist class knows a brief slap from Corbyn is less damaging to their bottom line than no-deal.
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Sep 17, 2019 23:43
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Tesseraction posted:Literally only nazis say this. "Literally only nazis say our system treats refugees that have successfully entered the system pretty well" what the bollocks is wrong with your brain? Are you saying that our treatment of successful asylum claimants is so barbaric that nazis are pretending it's pretty good in order to what? Similarly wealthy liberal democracies treat asylum seekers so much better but nazis are pretending that isn't the case so more apply to the UK so they can suffer more? The legit criticism of how the UK treats asylum seekers is that it's too binary, there aren't easily defined 'good ones' and 'bad ones' and we need to help more in the grey area. But to declare that saying successful asylum seekers in the UK are treated comparatively very well must be nazi propaganda, that's actively counter-factual, get hosed. Flail around trying to back it up or gently caress off.
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Sep 19, 2019 00:08
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