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OwlFancier posted:Though as we're illustrating that's under threat of "you're dead if you leave lol" Domestic abuser analogies with Greece may or may not be warranted, but I see the "you're dead if you leave lol" from the EU to the UK more like an Antarctic research base. The world outside the station is horrible, maybe it's a bit stupid that we're here, but as things stand, if you say you're taking your snowmobile and going home, you're dead. Factual statement, rather than threat.
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Beefeater1980 posted:Your instinct is correct; we can’t. What actually happened was that the owners of the industry offshored it - the businesses didn’t all go bankrupt, they continued and became more profitable than ever, but the people whose lives were improved by having reliable factory jobs stopped being people living in the UK and started being people living in China. Most people left in the UK were indeed poorer, just not the ones in charge. Oh good, more books to add to the angry pile. If anyone needs to grow theirs, I've been reading Crippled by Frances Ryan, which is about the disability cuts since 2010. I'm not normally one for violent thoughts (except when elephants are being harmed), but so far, I am imagining taking a baseball bat to numerous cabinet ministers from the coalition, the Camerition and the TMNT (Theresa May Non-majority Terrortron). And I'm only like 20% of the way through.
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Government to scrap plans for 'Henry VIII power' to end free movement Amazingly, this is because it might not be legal, not because there exists no way to distinguish between newly-arriving EU citizens, and ones who haven't filled in the "I want to stay" form yet! Or indeed the ones who have, unless you print out your confirmation page (which the hostile border guard will definitely accept)
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Sep 1, 2019 21:55
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Necrothatcher posted:edit: this cat would def rebel Saw this out of the corner of my eye and thought it was a baby tapir. It wasn't. So here's one. 
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Guavanaut posted:I read it as David Miliband. Stephen Mangan to play David Miliband? And Adam Godley as Rory Stewart, you know is makes sense
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Sep 2, 2019 09:36
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Failed Imagineer posted:Have you been checked for prosopagnosia? Hey!  OK, you're right. Spike Milligan to play David Miliband.
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Sep 2, 2019 09:48
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Pochoclo posted:This is the timeline where Bill and Ted fail their history class I watched Excellent Adventure (or "Bill and Ted's Crazy Journey Through Time", as the ever literal German film titlers call it) again the other day. Still holds up, apart from that one moment when they hug, but you know 2019 Bill and Ted would be too wholesome for that.
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Government is defeated again in motion on general election As expected, Boris Johnson has suffered another big loss, with the Commons rejecting his motion calling for a general election. Ayes:298 Noes: 56 Aye we want no election, we want no election today?
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Miftan posted:Go on, post the whole thing then. I had a similar idea... Who day and night must sit upon a big chair, Issue shouts of "order", hear the daily brayers, And who has the right as speaker of the house To have the final word on votes? The Bercoowwwww! The Bercow! DIVISION! The Bercoowwwww! The Bercow! DIVISION! Edit: Who must know the way to run a quiet bench, A mini-bench, a loser bench, Who must prop the Tories up to "quell the stench" So Cable's free to read the Orange Book? The Libdeeeeems! The Libdems! DIVISION! The Libdeeeeems! The Libdems! DIVISION! At three I sat on Nanny's lap, Latinam didici, I hear they've picked a seat for me I hope it's petty. The Reesmooggg! The Reesmogg. DIVISON! The Reesmooggg! The Reesmogg. DIVISON! Bobstar fucked around with this message at 22:11 on Sep 4, 2019 |
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A Buttery Pastry posted:He's learning the language of our evil twins, the Dutch. I managed to learn Dutch since living here. Danish is just moon-language throat-singing.
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Sep 7, 2019 16:24
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Andrast posted:You should try learning Finnish if you want something actually difficult Any excuse to post one of my favourite language things ever 
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Sep 7, 2019 17:43
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Strom Cuzewon posted:Is this some tonal language stuff that doesnt transcribe well? Or does Finnish rely entirely on context to determine whether or not a spruce is on fire? ^^ Yeah that  Finn and Finn-adjacent goons please correct me, but I believe it's entirely context, as I think Finnish pronunciation is very regular and sensible. So I think those all sound the same, but have possibly been formed into the same shape as each other from different roots.
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Sep 7, 2019 18:03
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HorseLord posted:Both of these posts are correct. The horrifying part is that the disgusting painful sounding throat clearing noise is how they pronounce the letter G. I can only figure that the Netherlands was once colonised by Klingons, because nobody completely human can pronounce Van Gogh "properly". Yep, and they blend something like it into the "sch" as well (which the Germans pronounce more sensibly, roughly like English "sh"), pronouncing it a bit like "s", then "crazy throat sounds". Vandaag ga ik graag met Geert naar Schiphol en Scheveningen om genoeg grappige groentjes te gooien!
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Sep 7, 2019 19:03
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Nice piece of fish posted:I swear, I can almost read that crap and have it make sense, but it's just outside my grasp. It's infuriating. Like someone writing really really obscure dialect from some fuckin valley in the middle ages. German speaker?
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Sep 7, 2019 19:16
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I made a thing. (with apologies to Stephen Collins)
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Sep 7, 2019 20:18
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Nice piece of fish posted:9. In fact I actively try to avoid speaking german, because I'm not very good. Norwegian I do speak though. Both languages, as well as obviously my own dialect which is basically incomprehensible to non-native speakers. Aah, coming at it from the "other side". Interesting. I asked because native German speakers (including me-ish, 3 years ago) say the same thing, they can read it a bit but it looks weird (listening is a whole other thing, as we've established). Also I have learned, if congratulated on how fast you've learned Dutch, take the compliment and bask in appearing like a super-Brit. Because otherwise it goes like this: "Oh well, it was easier because I already spoke German" Dutch person: "Why would that help  "
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Sep 7, 2019 20:36
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:I knew German from living in Germany for a few years, and I learned Norwegian (to about GCSE level) and I found Dutch comprehensible - I think of it like German with a Norwegian pronunciation. Haha, that's hilarious. Totally agree on the not seeming English thing. Very similar, when I moved over here, a guy who I'd worked with before, who knew me as the British guy, heard me speaking Dutch and literally burst out laughing, saying "hahaha you sound like a German!!"
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Sep 7, 2019 21:17
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Are there any Jewish Labour MPs who think Corbyn is good, actually? Like a Miftan but in Parliament instead of here.
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Sep 10, 2019 11:30
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Miftan posted:Pretty sure Gerald Kaufman would've been on board. rip Shut up and take my vote! If you outlaw mint chocolate as well I'll even volunteer to drive old people to the polling station (if they too hate incorrect chocolate).
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Sep 10, 2019 11:49
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Guavanaut posted:I suppose the question is "for what?" Somebody should write a thing about Ought vs Is. Like when the LibChuks start to chuck libs about not having an ideology, I want to hit them over the head with this concept. Or when fact fiends start to worship "evidence-based policy". Yes, of course you should use evidence to determine the Is (what happens when I do this?) but there's always going to be a fundamental Ought at the bottom of the pile, even if it's a really obvious one (people dying is bad). Like, evidence-based drugs policy is good (cf David Nutt), but you can't assume harm reduction as the Ought - you can perfectly well have an Ought of "drug users deserve to suffer and go to prison, regardless of wider consequences". That's a thing that can be believed, and can't be disproved with "facts". Angry philosophy drop-out rage intensifies...
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Ugggh stop it, EU. We've got to defend remaining for a while yet! This is the vaguest thing ever, but I'm sure I read something about EU people (either from the EU itself, or member countries) explicitly discouraging free movement within the African continent, to stop the flow of scary migrants heading North to Europe. So it's not even like "we'll have our little club, and you have yours, and maybe one day we'll join forces", it's "we have our club, but don't you think of doing your own, that's only for Europeans" 
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Sep 10, 2019 13:23
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Necrothatcher posted:Thanks! I also tried to look it up online and failed. Wasn't doubting this was the case, but that fire has always interested me. It's sad that the plaque commemorating it in the station is now usually behind a notice board. You like fire? Have you read about the Iroquois Theatre fire? I often bring it up I'm working in a theatre and people start trying to skimp on the width of gaps, or pile stuff in fire exits, and I feel like being That Guy. TLDR: You couldn't design a better death trap if you tried, and the failings would be hilariously terrible if not for all the dead people.
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Liking the look of that Watch casting. Everyone has their own fantasy casting (Hugh Laurie for Vimes, do not mock me!) but if there's one thing this country isn't short of, it's good actors, virtually all unknown of course. Having said that, Harriet Walter for Granny Weatherwax in a theoretical Witches project please, based on her performance as Henry IV. And yes Miriam Margolyes is the only possible Nanny Ogg.
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Beefeater1980 posted:Washed-up House era Hugh Laurie would have made a good Vimes. Really though you just need a classic alcoholic gumshoe down on his luck. Yeah he's probably too old now. I'm currently in bed recovering from having a butt operation on my butt, maybe I'll re-read the Watch books, haven't done that for ages.
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Gort posted:It's a crying shame Pete Postlethwaite is dead or he'd have been an excellent Vimes. Ooh yes. Shame he's dead generally. I wasn't the only one who thought of Paul Blackthorne from Arrow when I saw him, and he's conveniently British too! But that's mainly just based on 1) Is playing cop and 2) looks right.
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el dingo posted:Slightly left field but Stephen Rea as Vetinari. Ooh I like. Charles Dance was good. Jeremy Irons was... odd. Going Postal was very well cast I thought. Edit: Filed self under "cat"  VVV in the category of obvious well-knowns, I always pictured Carcer as David Tennant, he can do the unconventionally deranged so well. But then I also thought he should play Moist, so either he's got a great range or I have a limited imagination. Bobstar fucked around with this message at 13:13 on Sep 12, 2019 |
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Darth Walrus posted:British redhead John Cena would basically be Carrot, appearance-wise. I don't think I've ever known who John Cena is. Just googled him, and now the fact that I pictured Michael Cera every time I heard the name is even more hilarious.
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Failed Imagineer posted:I saw Harriet Walter as Julius Caesar a couple years ago and I completely agree. That was another part of our all-female Shakespeare trilogy! Fun shows. RockyB posted:Forget about scrawny carrot and disappointingly non valkyrie versions of Angua. The real casting question is why Cheeri doesn't have a beard. And yes, she canonically does. I don't think actors generally wear great big dwarf beards in their headshots just in case. Though maybe they should.
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Darth Walrus posted:She's 53. Magrat should probably be in her twenties. She was also already in Going Postal as someone else, not that that necessarily rules her out. She's another one with a decent range even though many people only know her from comedy (such as the Dylan Moran's solo-written show, Black Books  )
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thespaceinvader posted:God I'm so looking forward to The Watch and I'm terrified it's going to be bad. But I take heart that Good Omens reputedly wasn't. Still haven't seen it, I'm hoping we still have a BBC when it's supposed to be on in November. Discworld adaptations are always terrifying, I'm glad Going Postal was good (RIP Andrew Sachs), hoping for good things here. I started Good Omens, realised I'd never read it, listened to the audiobook on some long drives (Martin Jarvis  I'd listen to him read the phonebook), I didn't like it as much as Discworld but the screen version was a good one of it. If that makes sense.
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Borrovan posted:David Jason was Albert before he was Rincewind. Was good as both tbh. True, though I thought he was too old for Rincewind.
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Another thing about "alternative" treatments is time. GPs are hard-pressed enough to spend more than 7 minutes with each patient, which is fine for "look at this lump" - "yeah that needs removing, the removal place will contact you, bye", but is terrible for bedside manner and feeling listened to, as someone said above - though GPs do try, I'm amazed how much you can actually squeeze into a tiny appointment. Whereas for a payment that is either affordable or at least not unthinkable, you can get half an hour, or even an hour or more with a different type of person in a white coat, who will listen and take you seriously, if only because they can sell you more woo that way, but that's a placebo effect in itself. And the more evidence-based/honest ones will either be able to actually help, or go "woah, that's real medicine territory, back to the doctor with you!" Everyone should read Trick or Treatment - spoiler: not all of every type of alternative treatment is junk, but a lot of it is.
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Barry Foster posted:What ones aren't junk (placebo effect notwithstanding, since presumably that's all of them) I just grabbed the book, it's got a handy summary section in the back. Couple of quick examples: hypnotherapy/meditation/relaxation for some things, some evidence that leeches (!) can help osteoarthritis pain in the knee for some reason, osteopathy for back pain (but not for things that aren't muscles and bones, and not cranial osteopathy on babies!), and as Guava mentioned, things that are actual pharmacological agents inside plants. Looks like most of the other stuff they looked at is either unproven, based on implausible concepts, or downright dangerous. Real life example: my gastro specialist referred me to a hypnotherapist for functional dyspepsia (itself a wonderfully woolly diagnosis of exclusion, think IBS for the stomach), which has some evidence base, and (including placebo aspects) it really worked for me. Bobstar fucked around with this message at 11:12 on Sep 13, 2019 |
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I learned that in med school S02E01 when House makes LL Cool J drink to cure his methanol poisoning.
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Ah the lowest level of non-apology (below even "sorry if you chose to be offended"): the "we obviously need to get better at explaining how you're wrong and we're right"
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Barry Foster posted:It has a weird playdoh-y aftertaste. It's not great. Barry, it says non-toxic! Also, as a non-drinker, is beer like UK towns/cities, in that there isn't one which won't make somebody say "ewww why would you drink that"?
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coffeetable posted:alternatively, get rid of what little infrastructure there is and rewild wales A fully wild Wales, with a small cottage in the middle containing George Monbiot, smiling happily.
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I think we talked about Public Restaurants or whatever you want to call them in an earlier thread, and putting them in places that have the facilities (like schools), but nationalising all the Spoonses sounds even better. I thought about this again when I was at a Google office recently (yeah I know...) and they just have free catering all the time. That, but public, would be great. But of course if it's free, people will take infinite food, because economics curves. 
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Guavanaut posted:Are there any Welsh animes? Or animes about Wales?  Edit:  Bobstar fucked around with this message at 19:37 on Sep 13, 2019 |
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big scary monsters posted:It's fun how bigger companies offer a lot of the benefits you'd like to see available to all in society: childcare, food, gym membership, health insurance, out-of-work and sickness insurance, financial services, education, pensions, travel & transport, sometimes even housing are all stuff that you commonly see provided either free or heavily subsidised in good, well-paying jobs, as well as things like more paid time off, flexible working hours and stable, long-term contracts. So if you're making say £50k a year you will quite likely be in a job where a whole bunch of your day-to-day costs are either reduced or entirely paid for by your company. On the other hand with a minimum wage position, not only are you getting a lot less cash, but probably your job security is low and you are having to pay for all the same stuff at full whack. It really is a lot more expensive to be poor, and it really, really sucks. Yeeeeeppp. Which brings us back to Universal Basic Services! Hooray! Incidentally, on London chat, I've got all the above stuff and I'm basically set for life in NL (not boasting, because:), but I really want to move back to central London and do the unstable much harder job that I love. Yay for brains! Barry Foster posted:Stone cold classic, that I must have seen the English dub, I don't remember finding it incomprehensible. vvvv Classic
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