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gradenko_2000 posted:One early episode of Jack Ryan begins with a Syrian father out in the boonies teaching his son to wash up, to pray, to take care of his grandfather, and then they share a tender moment as he drives away on a motorcycle you forgot the best part, as the woman walks away with her children towards the camera with the rubble from the hellfire explosion in the background, she says quietly to her children (and the camera) "I told you God would protect us" then later on the drone operator flies to Syria and hunts down the father of the innocent man he murdered and gives him all the casino winnings to make amends and the guy's father is fine with it and then the drone operator disappears from the show and is never seen again his only connection to the entire rest of the plot is that one missile strike, and everything else is just dumb crap shoveled in to make us think that drone operators are good people doing a difficult job
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# ¿ Sep 11, 2019 13:34 |
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# ¿ May 12, 2024 01:59 |
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Zeroisanumber posted:Later in his career he becomes president. based on the harrison ford movies I think in the books he was a war college history professor/cia analyst, so of course when they updated it with jim from the office they made him now be an economist finances computer dork lmao
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# ¿ Sep 11, 2019 13:43 |
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gradenko_2000 posted:Iran takes over Iraq and forms an Arab super-state lmao of all the dumb things you described, this is somehow the one that is the dumbest
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# ¿ Sep 11, 2019 14:46 |
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Some Guy TT posted:i like how how the jack ryan cia is awesome franchise progressively downgraded from harrison ford to ben affleck to chris pine to now jim krasinski literally the only cia hero anyone has heard of because the tom clancy popularity window was the only time it would have ever occurred to anyone to write a character like that you forgot that it started with alec baldwin
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# ¿ Sep 12, 2019 13:23 |
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Some Guy TT posted:its an amazon show though there is just so much tv now that reviewers don't bother to watch bad shows and write bad reviews, they just watch things they think they'll like and then write reviews about how much they liked them
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# ¿ Sep 12, 2019 15:15 |
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Serf posted:oh yeah there's also a scene where a french intelligence agent tells jack ryan that muslims in france become radicalized because in america someone can be african-american or chinese-american, but muslims will never be french. the implication being that america is better because we don't have racism, i guess? dont forget that they show the villain being a secular muslim frenchman in a paris banlieue and then one time he gets arrested by the racist french police for protecting his brother and goes to prison and when he comes out of prison he's magically now a jihadi and that change is never explained except for a vague sense of "oh i guess french prisons are full of muslim extremists and therefore every arab who enters a french prison becomes a jihadi"
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# ¿ Sep 12, 2019 15:23 |
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Serf posted:episode 3 of jack ryan is the most dogshit evil propaganda i've ever seen wait until you see what the drone pilot does with all that money!!! Serf posted:i haven't gotten that far yet. that's stupid. suleiman carrying a grudge from his family getting blown up in lebanon in 83 makes way more sense, because that i can sympathize with i hatewatched it like a year ago so i may be forgetting some details but iirc they forget about that grudge and show him living a normal life in paris and then whoops suddenly he's a jihadi again because french people were racist to him
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# ¿ Sep 12, 2019 15:28 |
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Trumps Baby Hands posted:Michael Crichton is the true thinking man’s airport fiction yeah especially his book about how climate change isn't real and an international cabal of liberals were faking extreme weather to make people think it was and then some savage pacific island cannibals ate a dude
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# ¿ Sep 13, 2019 12:30 |
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Echo Chamber posted:Alec Baldwin's character is basically "an rear end in a top hat, but our charismatic, corporate rear end in a top hat" for the whole show, right? he's a satirical caricature of a republican executive only without the sexual harassment
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# ¿ Sep 18, 2019 22:33 |
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CharlestheHammer posted:from what I saw he also kind of means well which muddies it a bit it's been a while but iirc at the beginning he's consistently shown as caring only about making money by rising through the corporate ranks but over the course of the show grows to care more about the people in his life instead of that, to the point that late in the show he has a daydream where a version of him from an alternate timeline busts in to yell at him about how he isn't making enough money because he's gone soft
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# ¿ Sep 18, 2019 22:42 |
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i watched red sparrow and lmao just lmao
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# ¿ Sep 23, 2019 03:56 |
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22 Eargesplitten posted:the first season is just solid as hell horror, especially the first half. second isn’t as good, still decent, but it suffers from having a main character behave arbitrarily stupid when they had avoided that in the past. the third has its moments but some of the main plot points are just so unbelievably stupid that it ruined the entire season for me like this kind of stupid (spoiler): it's 1985. the soviet government builds an enormous science lab underneath an Indiana mall, staffed entirely by people wearing Red Army uniforms who speak Russian and no English (except like two people who speak basic english with extremely thick russian accents) and guard the mall with AK-47s and run around town shooting people in public places, and no one ever notices or thinks anything suspicious is going on. it's implied that this lab has been in operation or construction for at least a year. how this was all set up and maintained in the middle of Reaganland is handwaved away with some vague sense that the mayor of the town is corrupt and was in cahoots with them. no one ever comments on how this would be literally impossible logistically, they just ignore it all because it's an homage to 80s movies and in 80s movies the soviets were the omnipotent bad guys who could do anything anywhere at any time
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# ¿ Sep 23, 2019 15:48 |
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season 3 felt like they realized one of the mistakes of season 2 was that in season 1 they killed off all the human bad guys, and season 2 lost a lot of what made season 1 compelling as a result, so they were like "uh uh who can be the new human bad guys now that the us government is at least ostensibly supporting our heroes?" and landed on secret russian military bases in the middle of suburban indiana
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# ¿ Sep 24, 2019 20:34 |
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that person sounds like theyre a lot of fun at parties
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# ¿ Sep 25, 2019 19:46 |
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gradenko_2000 posted:And further, when you get to more pop/mainstream accounts of Presidential administrations, there's always this looming spectre of "America's enemies might strike at her in-between Presidents, when the new team hasn't been brought up to speed yet", when Soviet accounts of Walton's visit instead had them waiting with bated breath for what LBJ might do instead, fearing that he'd be more aggressive towards them and that this would be the end of detente. This is also a very common idea around presidential assassination attempts. Here's the authoritative source on all things history talking about the immediate aftermath of the assassination attempt on Reagan: Wikipedia posted:Within five minutes of the shooting, members of the Cabinet began gathering in the White House Situation Room.[52] Haig, Defense Secretary Caspar Weinberger and Allen discussed various issues, including the location of the nuclear football, the apparent presence of more than the usual number of Soviet submarines unusually close off the Atlantic coast, a possible Soviet invasion of Poland against the Solidarity movement, and the presidential line of succession. Although normally no tape recorders are allowed in the Situation Room these meetings were recorded with the participants' knowledge by Allen, and the five hours of tapes have since been made public.[49][53][54][50] Within five minutes, the cabinet were talking about how it might be the prelude to a Soviet attack or a Soviet nuclear strike or a Soviet invasion of Poland. Americans up to and including their elites really earnestly believed their own propaganda about the bloodthirsty Soviets looking for any excuse to destroy America just because. Even while, as your source and many others point out, the Soviets were much more often just terrified of America losing its collective mind one day and wiping them off the planet out of sheer bloody-minded hatred of communism.
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# ¿ Sep 26, 2019 13:26 |
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i read once that ashton kutcher spends his spare time busting pedophiles on the internet or something, but i dont know if it was true or just some pr thing his managers made up
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# ¿ Sep 27, 2019 21:23 |
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realtalk i will always appreciate tina fey to some extent bc mean girls is a cultural treasure
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# ¿ Oct 2, 2019 01:30 |
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america set up an immigration system that privileged educated asian doctors and scientists as immigrants, then when they arrived they went 'lmao look all asians are doctors and scientists' and now that's a stereotype
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# ¿ Oct 2, 2019 19:55 |
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crazy rich asians is basically just one of those interchangeable korean dramas about the poor girl who gets harassed by a billionaire heir until they fall in love and get married, only remade for western audiences
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# ¿ Oct 2, 2019 21:22 |
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get that OUT of my face posted:a goon in a different thread said that it was very true to asian romcoms or some other genre of pop culture when i said i didn't like it. ok, so? even if it's culturally accurate, the only happy ending i'd like to see in it is all the characters rounded up, shot, and with their wealth redistributed yes, it's a bad genre of pop culture, commonly called the cinderella genre it serves as a combination of examples of extravagant conspicuous consumption that the viewer can experience vicariously and seek to emulate in real life (characters dress in nice clothes and drive supercars and stay in swanky hotels and own enormous mansions) and wish fulfillment for a society that has resigned itself to a complete lack of real social mobility or equality (sure your life sucks and you have no hope of improving it, but maybe just maybe you could marry a billionaire heir and suddenly become an oligarch!) if anything crazy rich asians is a mildly less problematic example of this genre because at least the female lead is a competent, capable, successful economics professor instead of, like, a dirt-poor daughter of a janitor like in most examples of the genre the end goal is the same though, be happy with your working-class or middle-class life because it turns out the billionaires stealing your surplus value are nice people who make funny jokes and are so down-to-earth that they could fall in love with a commoner like you if you just happen to be in the right place at the right time!!!
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# ¿ Oct 2, 2019 21:50 |
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MasterSitsu posted:http://www.outono.net/elentir/2019/10/05/joker-the-perverse-idea-that-this-formally-excellent-film-promotes/ sounds like he lives in a society
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# ¿ Oct 6, 2019 01:38 |
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haven't seen it but it sounds like it would've been even better if they had thomas wayne be like that and still be a philanthropist like real-life billionaires
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# ¿ Oct 6, 2019 01:40 |
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Some Guy TT posted:im so used to psychos being portrayed as unambiguously heroic in less subtle visual media that i am extremely skeptical when both sidesism is employed to suggest that team psycho is morally conflicted because they express some minute self awareness of how monstrous they are this is an endemic problem in (especially american) pop culture though like poo poo ive been watching some of the office (us) and its really dissonant how steve carell's character is legitimately an awful human being in pretty much every way, is constantly sexually and racially abusive to his staff, undermines them at every turn, etc etc etc., and yet the show cant handle that its main character is the villain so it constantly tries to give him pathos and reassures the viewers that the workers like him for some reason even though he's a terrible, terrible, terrible person and an awful boss its basically a show about people getting stockholm syndrome for a serial abuser and exploitative representative of capital, and it was one of the biggest shows in the world for most of a decade
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# ¿ Jan 17, 2020 14:35 |
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Some Guy TT posted:the grossest part of office lore imo is the idea that toby is the scranton strangler its very transparently an attempt to rationalize michaels vicious treatment of toby by acting like tobys less than stellar social skills are proof that hes a serial killer its especially hosed up bc michael hates toby because toby wants him to follow rules like "dont sexually and racially harass your employees" and "dont put people in danger" and this conflict is played for laughs like toby deserves it because he wont let michael do the wacky things that make it a funny show theres an entire clip show episode where the guy who played gale in breaking bad comes in and is asking toby if theres anything he should be aware of for company liability reasons and then they just show like ten clips of michael sexually harassing employees and then it cuts back to toby and hes like "no its fine" like wtf
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# ¿ Jan 18, 2020 15:55 |
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Tricky D posted:But in Moneyball, the lead absolutely had to explain to his number crunching to others within the text. yeah the whole point of that movie was that the stats guys had to explain it over and over again to people who didn't understand. In the Big Short it's a bunch of stats guys talking to other stats guys so there's no audience surrogate to explain stuff to.
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# ¿ Jan 22, 2020 04:43 |
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Some Guy TT posted:they explain stuff to other people all the time and also do research because most of the characters start the movie out ignorant of how the mortgage backed securities actually work I remember the Selena Gomez one explaining how people are betting on bets on bets on bets and every time the bets get bigger so as soon as you lose the first bet that everyone thought was a sure thing, suddenly you're $800B in the hole.
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# ¿ Jan 22, 2020 04:56 |
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Jenny Agutter posted:What's a good movie. what makes a movie good. how much YouTube movie criticism do you watch Parasite is a good movie, work backward from there.
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# ¿ Jan 23, 2020 18:23 |
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A Gnarlacious Bro posted:It is really a bummer what they have done to Star Trek, like who gives a poo poo about Star Wars but it would be nice to have a fun and good episodic Star Trek and not this dumbass poo poo for morons. for my sins I have seen both seasons of Star Trek Discovery and it is such utter garbage
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# ¿ Jan 27, 2020 04:10 |
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gradenko_2000 posted:was the serialization of plotlines a good or bad thing? I seem to recall a big part of the criticism of Voyager was that each episode was far too self-contained, so now we have overarching stories and that's also not good either? Serialization is not bad per se, DS9 was heavily serialized and by the end was basically a 10-part finale, but it was also a good show made by good show-makers. Discovery could be 100% episodic and it might improve it a little bit because there wouldn't be so much dumb pressure to have every single thing tie back to every other thing, but as long as it was still written and produced and directed by the same people with the same goals then it would still be bad.
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# ¿ Jan 27, 2020 13:31 |
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Over Easy posted:Yeah, section 31 is really hosed up exactly like you say. A real betrayal of the original vision turning the federation and starfleet from an outwardly facing entity to an ouroboros and that problem plagues the series to this day There's a pretty substantial difference between the way DS9 treats Section 31 and the way Discovery does though, which is that all the main characters in DS9 are horrified by its existence and want to root it out of the Federation, and it's portrayed as an organization leftover from an earlier, less enlightened time in human history that's just been so good at hiding itself and justifying its existence to its own members, that the current leaders of the Federation, with notable exceptions like Sisko's admiral friend, barely even know it exists. The DS9 heroes want to expose it or destroy it or undermine it or somehow get rid of it because to them it threatens everything the Federation stands for. In Discovery they're like "oh this secret organization exists and basically runs the entire Federation and has an all-powerful AI that can hack any starship and they have their own secret fleet that has infinity ships while Starfleet has none and now its second in command is an evil tyrant from an alternate dimension, okay cool" and then they just keep doing what they're doing, and in the end they team up with Section 31 to fight a big space battle because hey, why not. There's a complete lack of understanding about how Section 31's existence and operations contradict the ideals and institutions of the Federation, both by the writers and by the characters, and as a result they're willing to make Section 31 both way more prominent in its position in the Federation and way less shocking to the characters.
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# ¿ Jan 28, 2020 02:40 |
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i liked when o'brien was tortured for an infinite amount of time in a mental prison and then went home after like three hours and had a brief episode-long bout of PTSD and suicidal thoughts, and then the episode ended and he went back to normal forever
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# ¿ Jan 28, 2020 18:31 |
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It's been a while since I watched TNG and even longer since I watched the TNG movies, but I remember Picard and Data being pretty close by the end of the TNG run. Some really iconic TNG episodes have Picard going to bat for Data in a way that, sure, he would have for any of the other main characters, but in a way that's particularly affected by Data's status as an android--I'm thinking especially of Measure of a Man here. By the end of the TV show they weren't like best friends or father and son or anything but Picard is clearly fond of Data, and the movies really play up their connection, especially in First Contact and Nemesis--I think First Contact particularly so because they become basically the only two sentient beings known to have come back from being Borgified, and Picard stays behind on the ship at the end to save Data specifically for that reason. I haven't seen Picard so I have no idea how they've handled this relationship or why they've made it important.
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# ¿ Jan 31, 2020 17:47 |
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mysterious frankie posted:I just finished the show about the miserable horse. God dammit someone needs to convince comedy writers to back off character development; they aren’t as good at it as they think they are and they just kinda exchanged the rule of funny for the rule of misery. Also gently caress me I am so tired of hearing about how alienating and sad it is to be a Hollywood millionaire, or how hard and dreary it is to be the upper middle class assistant of a Hollywood millionaire. I've never watched that show but everything I've read about it makes it sound insufferable. Like "wow rich and famous people get sad too, also they're talking animals for some reason" is not a comedic premise I find very appealing for some reason!!
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# ¿ Feb 2, 2020 00:45 |
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Peanut President posted:the one thing i learned from avengers is it's okay to destroy a city and kill numerous civilians as long as the good guys win no see its okay because the evil Government wanted to nuke the city which would have killed even more civilians and therefore faaaaaaart
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# ¿ Feb 2, 2020 22:36 |
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Serf posted:i'm currently watching ds9 for the first time and it loving owns It's amazing to watch for the first time because it starts out pretty decent trek and then just gets better and better through the entire run until the finale which unfortunately chooses to end with the show's worst plot instead of its best one.
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# ¿ Feb 3, 2020 14:51 |
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Feldegast42 posted:4 is still my favorite book but the big twist was a definite asspull, especially because it could have been way better foreshadowed and explained pretty easily. 7 sucked rear end because half the book was spent camping while the main characters occasionally heard rumours that interesting things were happening elsewhere, and then out of nowhere there's a giant battle and it's over the movies really saved 7's reputation imo because they bothered to make the first part mildly interesting (even though most of it was just a straight copy of the corrupting artifact trope that everybody had most recently seen in LOTR) by spending way more time and focus on the interesting bits at the beginning and turning the midpoint into an actual climax, whereas in the book (I think, I read it once years and years ago) they spend way less time on the interesting bits and way more time hanging out in a tent being angsty
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# ¿ Feb 7, 2020 22:24 |
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on the bright side 7 (at least the movie) does give us the moment where they just summarily imprison all the slytherins without trial because everyone knows its the evil house full of evil wizards, and then somehow they don't bother disbanding slytherin house when everything goes back to normal afterwards??????
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# ¿ Feb 7, 2020 22:25 |
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Percelus posted:hear me out yes although parasite makes a very strong case right at the decade's end
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# ¿ Feb 8, 2020 21:31 |
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steinrokkan posted:So how did tge wizards enslave humans in the latter books they have a magic spell that makes the other person do whatever you tell them to forever, and since non-wizards don't know wizards exist it's very easy for them to use that spell whenever they want
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# ¿ Feb 8, 2020 21:32 |
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# ¿ May 12, 2024 01:59 |
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gradenko_2000 posted:The trailer makes it look like a combination of YA magic and witches fantasy, plus YA coming of age drama, plus wrapped up in a military recruitment propaganda package I always thought the minor background fact in Harry Potter that Dumbledore defeated his German-sounding archnemesis in 1945 implied that there was a wizard component to World War 2, and then along came those terrible Fantastic Beasts movies which I guess confirmed that? Or didn't? I don't know I only saw the first one once and it was really bad so I never saw the other ones.
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# ¿ Feb 10, 2020 04:03 |