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wandler20
Nov 13, 2002

How many Championships?

He's loving awful. Seriously, I think he was in the top 5 worst rated lineman in the league last year.

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wandler20
Nov 13, 2002

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It'll be interesting to see if the Bucs can shut Barkley down like they did CMC. Make the rookie QB beat you in his first start.

wandler20
Nov 13, 2002

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College football is to blame for the OL issue. They do little if nothing to develop the skills needed to translate to the NFL. Now it takes like 3-4 years to develop an average starter on the OL.

wandler20
Nov 13, 2002

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Kalli posted:

DVOA is updated, and it's pretty great: https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/teameff/2019

Top 5 offenses: Cowboys, Chiefs, Ravens, Patriots, Washington
Top 5 defenses: Patriots, 49ers, Packers, Buccaneers, Rams

Packers have by far the worst offense of the top 10 teams, and they most closely resemble the Bears.

Todd Bowles is a wizard.

wandler20
Nov 13, 2002

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Jiminy Christmas! Shoes! posted:

Pretty much any other era Pats jersey is better than their current ones.



These are fantastic.

wandler20
Nov 13, 2002

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Man, those pictures are just incredible. Those old AFL jerseys were all so good (except the Broncos). https://www.si.com/nfl/photos/2009/10/13afl-throwback-uniforms---#6

wandler20
Nov 13, 2002

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Minshew fever!

https://twitter.com/WillBrinson/status/1174334846115753987?s=20

wandler20
Nov 13, 2002

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ESPN has a good read on Vontae Davis and how he retired mid-game: https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/27636876/nfl-veteran-vontae-davis-quit-nfl-midgame-here-happened-next

wandler20
Nov 13, 2002

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King Hong Kong posted:

I've said it before and I'll say it again but the Broncos AFL jerseys aren't bad (the socks and pants at least; the helmet is bad).

I don't mind the helmet but those socks ruin it for me.

wandler20
Nov 13, 2002

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My favorite part of the Vontae story was he text his wife who was sitting in the stands that he was done and going home and he made it home before she did.

wandler20
Nov 13, 2002

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Panthers by 20.

https://twitter.com/josephperson/status/1174379149626138624?s=20

wandler20
Nov 13, 2002

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Hasn't Dallas actually been really good at drafting lately?

Also, shocked they couldn't get like a 7th for him, but I suppose they needed to do something because Quinn is activated.

wandler20
Nov 13, 2002

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FizFashizzle posted:

kyle allen tore up the saints last year and you are all about to loving witness

He's gonna save Ron huh?

wandler20
Nov 13, 2002

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Patriots dominating the league in yet another category:

https://twitter.com/PFF_Louie/status/1174678311668203521?s=20

wandler20
Nov 13, 2002

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This is wild

https://twitter.com/ScottKacsmar/status/1174814126125789185?s=19

wandler20
Nov 13, 2002

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AndrewP posted:

According to Sportrac he's not a free agent until 2021.

Next year is the final year of his rookie deal. Then the 5th year option in 2021 but that's a huge pay bump.

wandler20
Nov 13, 2002

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The cannons fire on!

https://twitter.com/JennaLaineESPN/status/1175126932658282500?s=20

wandler20
Nov 13, 2002

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Vengarr posted:

How the gently caress do you play WR with fingers like that? There's gotta be some way to fix that.

Torry Holt has the best fingers.

wandler20
Nov 13, 2002

How many Championships?
Gonna dump a bunch of stuff here from an article on the Athletic. https://theathletic.com/1227649/201...g-hit-the-most/

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Which QBs are producing explosive plays at the highest rates?
We’ll define explosive plays as any completion that gains 20 or more yards. But instead of counting totals, I adjusted for the number of dropbacks each quarterback has had. I also removed all dropbacks that occurred inside the opponents’ 20-yard line. If you’re at the opponents’ 15, you can’t produce an explosive play of 20 yards.

The explosive rate below measures the number of 20-plus yard completions on the remaining qualifying dropbacks. If a quarterback throws a 6-yard pass, and a receiver gains 15 yards after the catch for a 21-yard gain, that counts as an explosive play for our purposes. In other words, we’re not just measuring passes that traveled 20 or more yards from the line of scrimmage. This can be viewed in terms of which offenses are doing the best job producing explosive pass plays, even though the quarterbacks are listed.

Rank Quarterback Explosive Rate
1 Patrick Mahomes 20.90%
2 Lamar Jackson 20.34%
3 Jimmy Garoppolo 17.02%
4 Dak Prescott 16.36%
5 Philip Rivers 16.18%
6 Tom Brady 16.07%
7 Kirk Cousins 14.29%
8 Baker Mayfield 14.10%
9 Matthew Stafford 13.92%
10 Luke Falk 12.00%
11 Joe Flacco 11.76%
12 Kyler Murray 11.63%
13 Andy Dalton 10.64%
T-14 Jameis Winston 9.84%
T-14 Russell Wilson 9.84%
T-14 Derek Carr 9.84%
17 Gardner Minshew 9.78%
18 Marcus Mariota 9.52%
19 Drew Brees 9.52%
20 Deshaun Watson 8.96%
21 Case Keenum 8.82%
22 Matt Ryan 8.70%
23 Jared Goff 8.33%
24 Josh Allen 8.00%
25 Aaron Rodgers 7.81%
26 Ben Roethlisberger 6.67%
27 Mitchell Trubisky 6.58%
28 Eli Manning 6.10%
29 Mason Rudolph 5.88%
30 Carson Wentz 5.56%
31 Ryan Fitzpatrick 5.36%
32 Cam Newton 4.44%
33 Josh Rosen 4.17%
34 Jacoby Brissett 3.70%
35 Teddy Bridgewater 3.13%
36 Sam Darnold 0.00%

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Which QBs are throwing downfield the most?
This one looks at air yards. It measures the percentage of dropbacks (again, removing plays from inside the opponents’ 20) that result in a pass attempt that travels 20 or more yards past the line of scrimmage.

Rank Quarterback 20+ attempt rate
1 Josh Rosen 29.17%
2 Patrick Mahomes 23.88%
3 Deshaun Watson 22.39%
4 Lamar Jackson 22.03%
5 Matthew Stafford 21.52%
6 Ryan Fitzpatrick 21.43%
7 Mason Rudolph 17.65%
8 Aaron Rodgers 17.19%
9 Jameis Winston 16.39%
10 Kyler Murray 16.28%
11 Ben Roethlisberger 15.00%
12 Josh Allen 14.67%
13 Dak Prescott 14.55%
14 Kirk Cousins 14.29%
15 Baker Mayfield 14.10%
16 Carson Wentz 13.89%
17 Cam Newton 13.33%
18 Mitchell Trubisky 13.16%
19 Russell Wilson 13.11%
20 Matt Ryan 13.04%
21 Tom Brady 12.50%
22 Philip Rivers 11.76%
23 Marcus Mariota 11.43%
24 Jimmy Garoppolo 10.64%
25 Andy Dalton 10.64%
26 Derek Carr 9.84%
27 Eli Manning 9.76%
28 Case Keenum 8.82%
29 Sam Darnold 6.98%
30 Jacoby Brissett 5.56%
31 Gardner Minshew 5.43%
32 Jared Goff 5.00%
33 Luke Falk 4.00%
34 Teddy Bridgewater 3.13%
35 Joe Flacco 2.94%
36 Drew Brees 2.38%

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Which quarterbacks are taking the most sacks/hits?
Instead of looking at overall sacks and hits, we use a percentage based on number of dropbacks. Pressure in general can be used subjectively, but here we only count instances where a quarterback is sacked or hit. Getting close doesn’t count.

Rank Quarterback Pressure%
1 Josh Rosen 48.00%
2 Marcus Mariota 36.84%
3 Ryan Fitzpatrick 36.21%
4 Deshaun Watson 36.11%
5 Russell Wilson 33.85%
6 Aaron Rodgers 31.94%
7 Jameis Winston 28.17%
8 Sam Darnold 26.67%
9 Baker Mayfield 23.46%
T-10 Jared Goff 22.22%
T-10 Luke Falk 22.22%
12 Jacoby Brissett 21.54%
13 Mitchell Trubisky 21.52%
14 Kyler Murray 21.36%
15 Josh Allen 21.25%
16 Carson Wentz 20.93%
17 Kirk Cousins 19.57%
18 Philip Rivers 19.48%
19 Andy Dalton 18.63%
20 Matt Ryan 18.56%
21 Cam Newton 17.71%
22 Joe Flacco 17.44%
23 Matthew Stafford 17.07%
24 Tom Brady 16.42%
25 Case Keenum 15.66%
26 Gardner Minshew 15.00%
27 Teddy Bridgewater 14.71%
28 Derek Carr 11.43%
29 Patrick Mahomes 11.39%
30 Eli Manning 9.78%
31 Ben Roethlisberger 9.23%
32 Lamar Jackson 9.09%
33 Drew Brees 8.16%
34 Dak Prescott 7.81%
35 Jimmy Garoppolo 7.27%
36 Mason Rudolph 5.00%

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Which defenses are producing sacks/QB hits at the highest rates?
Same idea as the previous section, but we look at defenses. Which teams, when we account for the number of opponents’ dropbacks, are producing sacks and hits at the highest and lowest rates? Here’s how the 32 teams stack up.

Rank Team Pressure%
1 New Orleans Saints 36.23%
2 Cleveland Browns 35.38%
3 Baltimore Ravens 32.50%
4 Jacksonville Jaguars 29.91%
5 Cincinnati Bengals 28.85%
6 Indianapolis Colts 27.03%
7 Atlanta Falcons 25.81%
8 Carolina Panthers 25.71%
9 Minnesota Vikings 25.00%
10 Green Bay Packers 24.14%
11 New England Patriots 22.92%
12 Chicago Bears 22.73%
13 New York Jets 21.95%
14 San Francisco 49ers 21.59%
15 Pittsburgh Steelers 18.99%
16 Tennessee Titans 18.52%
17 Arizona Cardinals 17.89%
18 Philadelphia Eagles 17.78%
19 Buffalo Bills 17.58%
20 Los Angeles Rams 17.28%
21 Houston Texans 17.24%
22 Detroit Lions 15.46%
23 Oakland Raiders 15.00%
24 Kansas City Chiefs 14.10%
25 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 13.41%
26 New York Giants 13.24%
27 Seattle Seahawks 13.04%
28 Los Angeles Chargers 12.90%
29 Dallas Cowboys 12.36%
30 Miami Dolphins 12.28%
31 Washington Redskins 11.11%
32 Denver Broncos 3.70%

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Which defensive players are producing sacks/QB hits at the highest rates?
This is one where we have to be especially cautious with the small sample size. But here, I looked at how often defensive players have produced a sack or QB hit, given the number of opportunities they’ve had to rush the passer. I included players who have had at least 25 chances to rush the quarterback so far.

Rank Player Team Pressure%
1 Myles Garrett Browns 25.53%
2 Benson Mayowa Raiders 24.07%
3 Cameron Wake Titans 18.29%
4 Sam Hubbard Bengals 17.14%
5 Matt Judon Ravens 15.22%
6 Shaquil Barrett Buccaneers 14.29%
7 Brian Burns Panthers 13.16%
T-8 Trey Hendrickson Saints 11.63%
T-8 Marcus Davenport Saints 11.63%
10 Pernell McPhee Ravens 11.36%
T-11 Dontari Poe Panthers 11.11%
T-11 Ryan Kerrigan Washington 11.11%
T-11 Solomon Thomas 49ers 11.11%
14 Whitney Mercilus Texans 10.94%
15 Clay Matthews Rams 10.53%
16 Calais Campbell Jaguars 10.47%
17 Adrian Clayborn Falcons 10.34%
18 Linval Joseph Vikings 10.26%
19 Stephon Tuitt Steelers 10.19%
20 Cameron Jordan Saints 10.17%
T-21 Denico Autry Colts 10.00%
T-21 Leonard Floyd Bears 10.00%
T-21 Preston Smith Packers 10.00%

wandler20
Nov 13, 2002

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sharknado slashfic posted:

Joe Flacco, explosive quarterback

lol 11th explosive, 35th in passes over 20 yards.

wandler20
Nov 13, 2002

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https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1175140674628390913?s=20

wandler20
Nov 13, 2002

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https://twitter.com/alec_m2/status/1175140065837821955?s=20

wandler20
Nov 13, 2002

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Ches Neckbeard posted:

I've been saying take the long view. Don't take your QB now and try to rush him along when at least the Vikings, Colts and likely Buccs are going to be set to sell as many drafts as possible to get a QB. I don't see the point of drafting a QB so early in a rebuild when this is year 1 of 4-5 years of rebuilding. Sit and watch is no more proven than starting a guy immediately far as development goes.

Jameis will be the starter in Tampa next year. They aren't selling for a QB until at least 2021.

wandler20
Nov 13, 2002

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Ches Neckbeard posted:

Do they even have the money to franchise him? He's playing the 5th year option right now.

Yeah. They are projected to have like the 12th most cap room next year. They structured a lot of the big contracts up front so they get a bunch of relief next year.

wandler20
Nov 13, 2002

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FizFashizzle posted:

someone with a subscription tell me what joe person says about cam's lisfranc injury here

either he's casually breaking news or just trying to get click

https://twitter.com/josephperson/status/1176223836959887360?s=20

I'm not reading it so I'm just gonna post it:

quote:

The Panthers wasted no time Monday in announcing that quarterback Kyle Allen would make another start this week against Houston.

And it could be Allen’s job for a while.

After bungling the PR side of Cam Newton’s foot injury last week, the Panthers moved quickly Monday to try to prevent any additional mixed messages or the bad optics of Ron Rivera walking out of a press conference.

Rivera still declined to give a firm timeline for Newton’s return. But here’s one that would make the most sense for the long-term outlooks of both player and team:

Keep Newton on the sideline through the Oct. 20 bye.

Multiple sources confirmed Newton is dealing with a Lisfranc injury, in which the ligaments of the mid-foot rupture, causing instability with the joints. Some Lisfranc injuries involve trauma to the small bones in the foot, although the Panthers’ initial wording that Newton had sustained a mid-foot sprain would suggest his is ligament-related.

Depending on the severity, some athletes require season-ending surgery to repair Lisfranc, which was the case with former Panthers center Ryan Kalil in 2012.

And though Rivera would not answer a question about possible surgery for Newton, sources said that is not the plan at this time.

Sports medicine experts suggest a recovery period of four to eight weeks for athletes taking a non-surgical approach to a Lisfranc, depending on the severity.

Newton began practicing 11 days after initially injuring his foot in the third preseason game at New England, which in hindsight was clearly way too soon. He played in Week 1 against the Rams, before aggravating the foot in a Sept. 12 loss to Tampa Bay.

If Newton remains sidelined until after the bye, that would keep him off his foot for 5˝ weeks, which would fall in the middle of the recommended timeline. In that scenario, he’d miss three more games — at Houston, vs. Jacksonville and vs. Tampa Bay in London — before returning Oct. 27 at San Francisco.

Allen has shown he’s more than capable of stepping in and playing well. In leading a 38-20 victory Sunday at Arizona, Allen improved to 2-0 as a starter – with both wins coming on the road.

If the Panthers needed any more convincing not to rush Newton back too quickly again, Allen provided it. The Phoenix-area native torched his hometown team, completing 19-of-26 passes for 261 yards and four touchdowns.

He’s just the fourth Panthers’ quarterback to throw four touchdowns without an interception in a game, and his 144.4 passer rating is the second-highest in team history, behind Newton’s 153.3 mark against Atlanta in 2015.

Most importantly, Allen saved the Panthers from falling into an 0-3 hole, from which only 2.9 percent of teams have recovered to make the playoffs.

“I think Kyle’s performance was what we needed,” Rivera said. “He came out and played very well and did the things we were hoping he would do. I think what it does is it energizes us at a time we needed a little bit of energy.”

Based on what Allen did last year against Atlanta (when he played well in a cameo for an injured Taylor Heinicke) and New Orleans, teammates were not surprised by his success against the Cardinals.

Still, it was reassuring that Allen was able to win a game in which the opposition was not resting its starters — at a time when, as Rivera said, the Panthers desperately needed it.

“Kyle had us fired up. Kyle answered the call. He was ready,” cornerback Donte Jackson said. “He said earlier (last) week, ‘If my number gets called, I’ll be ready.’ And he was. We have a lot of trust and respect (for) him, and we know he can get the job done.”

If Allen can keep the Panthers afloat over the next few weeks, maybe a healthy Newton returns and plays like he did the first half of the 2018 season before his shoulder went bad.

Newton has played hurt a lot over the past eight-plus seasons — likely more than he or the team has let on. Now 30, it takes a little longer for the ligaments to heal and the aches to stop hurting.

He very obviously wasn’t himself the first two weeks of the season, when he didn’t run and had trouble stepping into his throws on a compromised left foot. It was clear Newton needed a break — mentally and physically — which he practically shouted from the podium before the Tampa Bay loss when he said he was tired of being hurt.

It seems the Panthers have finally heard him.

wandler20
Nov 13, 2002

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Ches Neckbeard posted:

Ok they'll have space so I have to ask a followup

Why? It's been 5 years we know what Jameis is it's not like another year of evaluation is really necessary

He's only 3 games into this new offense and has improved every game. Arians loves him and part of the reason he took the job. Unless he completely melts down (could certainly happen) he'll be back. If he's even average he'll be back.

wandler20
Nov 13, 2002

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https://twitter.com/FieldYates/status/1176236795777966086?s=20

https://twitter.com/FieldYates/status/1176236540508418048?s=20

wandler20
Nov 13, 2002

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FizFashizzle posted:

imagine losing this bet because Mitch Trubisky has the game of his life.

You'd have to kill yourself at that point, right?

How much do you put on the Bears to hedge your bet? Your entire savings (assuming it's not much if he's making a hail mary bet like that)?

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wandler20
Nov 13, 2002

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Mind_Taker posted:

Washington has been historically bad at MNF since they moved to FedEx. No way Trubisky doesn't put up like 350 and 3 TDs tonight.

Yikes:

https://twitter.com/dcsportsbog/status/1176108584209436673?s=20

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