World War Mammories posted:

"+1 Kim trusts you / +2 Kim really trusts you" is one of my favorite lines and it's a goddamn stat bonus. video games...... are art

i am a moron posted:

What’s unironically great is the number of people in this thread unable to process the game for the postmodern masterpiece it really is and not an attempt to turn the narrative of their poli sci 101 paper on the communist manifesto into a game

i am a moron posted:

What’s unironically great is the number of people in this thread unable to process the game for the postmodern masterpiece it really is and not an attempt to turn the narrative of their poli sci 101 paper on the communist manifesto into a game

Tiler Kiwi posted:

anyways i think one of the bigger points of DE is that there's more to a human being than ideology and that boiling humanity or the course of society down to any kind of simplified analysis disconnects you from the actual lived lives of the little people and turns you into something like the sunday friend

World War Mammories posted:

"+1 Kim trusts you / +2 Kim really trusts you" is one of my favorite lines and it's a goddamn stat bonus. video games...... are art

i am a moron posted:

What’s unironically great is the number of people in this thread unable to process the game for the postmodern masterpiece it really is and not an attempt to turn the narrative of their poli sci 101 paper on the communist manifesto into a game

Cpt_Obvious posted:

Please add to OP:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1gKGq44NxQ

Cpt_Obvious posted:

Please add to OP:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1gKGq44NxQ

ZeeBoi posted:

Dreylad posted:

There are so many great scenes in the game, and naturally people love the phasmid scene or the tribunal and rightly so, but for me it's when you finally get to the car that's sinking into the ocean and Kim just lets Harry take his time figuring out what happened. He doesn't push, he doesn't get impatient, he just sits with this guy on a swing set he doesn't know, definitely isn't sure about at this point, and lets him come to terms with what happen in his own time. It was touching.

wizardofloneliness posted:

The one that really stayed with me was finding that one guy's frozen corpse on the boardwalk and then having to tell his wife he's dead. I passed the check to deliver the news myself but I think Kim has your back if you fail it. He was just some random drunk who hit his head and died out there all alone in the cold, but it was sad as gently caress seeing it. It was real rough meeting his wife and telling her he's never coming back. The whole thing was very desolate. I think there's also an option to just report it to the precinct and let them take care of it, but what kind of person would do that?

wizardofloneliness posted:

Nordick posted:

This one was quite likely the most emotionally impactful scene I've ever come across in a video game. Especially that short exchange when the woman says "Dead? But..." and Empathy finishes the sentence for her with "...but he was just here. Alive." was gut-wrenching. Just the sheer mundaneity of the whole thing contrasted with everything else being so wild and wacky really drives it home I think.

dead gay comedy forums posted:

given that the final cut is IMMINENT dunno if a new thread is a good idea or enforcing spoilers again for a while is enough?

Sekenr posted:

Do you have more of huge DE art? Displate doesn't ship to my country I have to make do

lets hang out posted:

you're why they had to change the name

Palpek posted:

Dreylad posted:

Yeah. I felt bad for Rene because he was caught up in the romantic defense of the Revachol nation and even as it's disintegrated around him once global capital came in to crush the revolution, it's something that he's clung to no matter what. Also isn't he a security guard at the docks working for the union?

I love that the game shows the contradictions of people's beliefs and their material circumstances, and instead of pointing at this hypocrisy and yelling LOOK LOOK AT THIS, it instead says that this is fine. Sometimes it's funny, like how Harry can be completely incoherent, sometimes it's tragic like with Measurehead, sometimes it's sinister like with the Sunday Friend, but it's all a part of how human beings are.

There are so many great scenes in the game, and naturally people love the phasmid scene or the tribunal and rightly so, but for me it's when you finally get to the car that's sinking into the ocean and Kim just lets Harry take his time figuring out what happened. He doesn't push, he doesn't get impatient, he just sits with this guy on a swing set he doesn't know, definitely isn't sure about at this point, and lets him come to terms with what happen in his own time. It was touching.

nurmie posted:

plus "disco elysium" is a better name imo even without the furry connection

Hieronymous Alloy posted:

Are there any consistently replicable tricks to get the Palerunner achievement?

Neurosis posted:

No Truce with the Furies sounded better until you played the game and understood it, though. But they're both good titles.

RPS posted:

RPS: Right, the real last question: why is the game no longer called No Truce With The Furies?

Kurvitz: And instead, it’s called Disco Elysium. Because we’ve been building this world for 16 years maybe now. Before we got funded, there were 13/14 years of pure world building: names of mountain ranges, believable names of political parties and geopolitical entities and so on. A massive piece of work. So when I was 14 I dropped out of school and to this day I have 9 grades of education - I’ve done nothing but hardcore RPG stuff. So I really love the name, when I came up with it, and I’ve never stopped loving it, because it’s such a beautiful name for a realistic world. When you start playing it, there’s this character you can talk to who’ll tell you that it has an in-world meaning, and that it’s a term of endearment for the world.

[...]

So from that moment on I’ve felt I’ve owned this name. Of course since it’s taken 14 years for us to do it, some kind of cynical assholes have ran it to the ground already, but this is ground I won’t concede. This is a name I will fight for, and I wanted it in the loving title. We couldn’t just call it 'Elysium' because Neill Blomkamp hosed up already, so we called it Disco Elysium because the dude has disco clothes on in it. But it is an introduction of our setting, which is Elysium, and we’re not backing off from it - we wanted to claim it for ourselves. It was a territorial power move on our parts, to get the title in there.

quote:

Reflections
The furies are at home
in the mirror; it is their address.
Even the clearest water,
if deep enough can drown.

Never think to surprise them.
Your face approaching ever
so friendly is the white flag
they ignore. There is no truce

with the furies. A mirror’s temperature
is always at zero. It is ice
in the veins. Its camera
is an X-ray. It is a chalice

held out to you in
silent communion, where gaspingly
you partake of a shifting
identity never your own.

quote:

It's from the R.S. Thomas poem "Reflections," which deals with the impossibility of escaping your self-image or the shifting pieces of your identity you can see in any mirror. You can't run from them or make peace with these "Furies," these vengeful pieces of yourself, your warring mind; you can't creep up on them or possess them. Who you are is never fully within your control. The best you can do is drink in the icy truths of identity as they arrive, try to live with them. But there can be no true peace with yourself except in death.

It's thematically relevant for Disco, a game about how the past always encroaches on our present and is inescapably carried with us. You can't click your fingers and move on from it; neither can you truly forget or escape it. The best you can hope for is to confront it, reconcile with it, learn to swim in it—which H.D.B. does, and others (Rene, Klaasje, The Deserter) do not. Remember that at least one character refers to the pale as a form of the past—figuratively and perhaps literally; we learn from the phasmid that it's a human creation, and there's more of it each year, mounting and threatening to swallow us.

Samovar posted:

The fact that the Greco-Roman pun is therefore accidental is incredible.

EorayMel posted:

Only about 12 hours to go until it can drop any time after

Benagain posted:

Which pun?