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Cool. I didn't know there was a thread for this here. (Like everyone else) I'm going all in for the Dale Cooper/Sam Vimes crossover detective. Pump INT at chargen then dip into Inland Empire, Espirit de Corps and Shivers*, then use equipment exclusively buffing those skills. *Shivers is absolutely the Sam Vimes skill. "Feel your city". I bet there are even boots with really thin soles that buff it somewhere. SelenicMartian posted:What if every single critical failure in the game involves crashing into the wheelchair lady? If there's a running joke where she just gets more and more infuriated with you, I'm into it.
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# ¿ Sep 29, 2019 12:48 |
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# ¿ May 16, 2024 18:29 |
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Ritznit posted:So far literally the only thing that I'm not completely loving about this game is the lack of a female option for the protagonist. Other than that, holy cow I'm into all of this. I do understand that. You're a character with a history al la the Nameless One, but there's no obvious reason they couldn't have made the fixed character a woman or non-binary (unless there are no women in the police force in this world).
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# ¿ Sep 30, 2019 11:11 |
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I would argue that the Nameless One is a fuckup whatever you do too. The whole point is that you can't escape your past fuckups.
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# ¿ Sep 30, 2019 11:45 |
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Fangz posted:Even from the design document, the point of TNO is that you are literally the most important character in the multiverse and your every whim determines the future of universes. In Disco Elysium, it's a major challenge to recover both of your shoes and you have to decide whether you have the courage to look in the mirror. From the trailer, you can still be the greatest detective who ever lived, so... They're both RPG protagonists.
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# ¿ Sep 30, 2019 12:12 |
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What's in the collectors edition? I've not heard anything about it. The soundtrack is essentially a new BSP album, so I'd be down for that.
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# ¿ Sep 30, 2019 15:26 |
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Competence is overrated. Be weird instead.
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# ¿ Oct 1, 2019 09:10 |
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I am going to create a libertarian-socialist cop and punch racists. It's going to be rad. E: Perhaps a hamster posted:I'm of the same age as he and come from a similar background (growing up in Eastern Europe in the 90s), and not gonna lie, this hit me hard, 'cause what he says about his perspective on western vs Soviet identity divide, not being part of the "empire culture" etc. is dead-on how I've felt all my life (though it probably doesn't help that I spent over a decade living in what is now Brexit Britain) and it's not something I hear explored much, if at all, in English-speaking media where most Eastern European representation is still at the level of "lol Boris" and other Cold War Russian-related jokes. I have no idea if your Estonian, but have you read his novel? I suspect it'll give us a good idea how they're going to handle these things, but obviously, reading a book only currently available in Estonian is pretty tricky for most of us! CottonWolf fucked around with this message at 11:14 on Oct 2, 2019 |
# ¿ Oct 2, 2019 11:09 |
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That is definitely going in my thought cabinet. Paranatural Apocalypse cop would be great fun. All in on Inland Empire/Shivers/Interfacing. "No, you don't get it, man. The killer came from Elsewhere. AND THIS IS JUST THE START!" CottonWolf fucked around with this message at 12:28 on Oct 2, 2019 |
# ¿ Oct 2, 2019 12:26 |
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Hakkesshu posted:...where the text says they're a bad guy and idiots be like "gently caress YEAH WHAT A COOL GUY #TheEmperorWasRight"... That's not a problem with a text though. If the text explicitly says one thing, and everyone chooses to ignore it, don't blame the text.
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# ¿ Oct 2, 2019 13:02 |
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Freaking Crumbum posted:i'm also not a fan of "your attributes and skills actually make you worse if they get too high. it's role-play not roll-play you philistine". it sounded like having a very high skill / attribute will force you to start doing certain things, but is it a situation where you're forced to make these poor choices, or is it like having a very high rank in something will give you the option of making poor choices, but not forcing you into it? Both. Skills open options, but also force you to do things. One example they've given is that high Electrochemistry will give you non-refusable quests to source and make amphetamines.
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# ¿ Oct 2, 2019 16:19 |
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CommissarMega posted:Why electrochemistry? is there something about copper and zinc that just screams "I GOTTA DO METH!" The idea is that it's the skill govening your dopamine response, as in the electrochemistry of the nervous system. It's in the Physique category, which (seems to) contain skills that are essentially the personifications of the instinctual and more fundamental aspects of your body. quote:ELECTROCHEMISTRY All of the skill descriptions are on their blog. There's the Intellect skills, Psyche skills, Physique skills and Motorics skills. CottonWolf fucked around with this message at 16:30 on Oct 2, 2019 |
# ¿ Oct 2, 2019 16:26 |
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Yeah. That would be a cool way to handle it. If only to show off how reactive to each other their skills actually are.
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# ¿ Oct 2, 2019 16:41 |
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I was planning 6 Int/4 Phy with Shivers as the signature skill, mainly because it seems like such an unintuitive build, I want to see if its even possible to be competent. It feels like you won't have the perception to find the clues you'd analyse with Int, and won't have the social smarts to find the points you'd push on with Phys. I guess we'll see.
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# ¿ Oct 6, 2019 21:49 |
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No Truce with the Furies was a better name though.
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# ¿ Oct 7, 2019 11:51 |
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Fat Samurai posted:EDIT: The protagonist hanging himself from the ceiling fan is a solution of sorts. It's certainly an answer to the question "What kind of cop are you?"
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# ¿ Oct 7, 2019 16:08 |
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terrorist ambulance posted:This game looks like if supergiant made the zybourne click. Just found out about it and preordered, nice little surprise that it's coming out so soon I thought there was no preorder? Though, I wouldn't be hugely surprised by a Johnny Five-Aces cameo. CottonWolf fucked around with this message at 18:48 on Oct 13, 2019 |
# ¿ Oct 13, 2019 18:45 |
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Elswyyr posted:I'm still trying to figure out what concept I wanna do, and it's so hard. Sam Vimes, Columbo, or just a raving lunatic. Yeah. I keep going backwards and forwards on it. There are so many cool fictional detectives. I think I've settled on a cross between Sam Vimes and Will Graham: 6 intellect, 1 psyche, 4 fysique, 1 motorics + Espirit de Corps. The Miss Marple build looks fun too though: 4 intellect, 6 psyche, 1 fysique, 1 motorics + Empathy. (Though Will Graham, despite doing the crime reconstruction thing in his head, is probably through massive Empathy rather than Visual Calculus, so that's likely a bad example.) CottonWolf fucked around with this message at 21:58 on Oct 13, 2019 |
# ¿ Oct 13, 2019 21:56 |
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Yep. That's actually one of the defaults, not even a create-your-own only option.
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# ¿ Oct 13, 2019 21:59 |
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CommissarMega posted:Also keep in mind that too high Volition apparently pushes you into being a Boring Cop since it overrides your more 'out-there' impulses, while high Endurance apparently pushes you to Fascism since you're such an obviously superior specimen Rhetoric is socialist. I don't know if we know the political inclinations of the other skills yet. It's crazy that that's a sentence that makes sense to write.
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# ¿ Oct 15, 2019 12:36 |
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Yeah, it's about an hour and twenty till it unlocks. Not that I'm counting down the minutes and its completely distracting me from work or anything.
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# ¿ Oct 15, 2019 16:44 |
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Dancer posted:IT'S OUT Also, this: Lightningproof posted:I really don't think those tweets are that bad and am not especially bent out of shape that someone has criticisms of the game I am excited for, personally.
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# ¿ Oct 15, 2019 17:02 |
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Ugly In The Morning posted:My download keeps freezing for some reason. I just want this on my laptop already. I haven’t been this excited for a game since... probably either Fallout New Vegas or Alpha Protocol. For me it was Pillars 1, but yeah. I getcha. My Windows has just insisted on updating, I'm watching a percentage bar crawl up, it's soul destroying.
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# ¿ Oct 15, 2019 17:12 |
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adamarama posted:Is it only on steam? I would've thought it would be on humble given they published it. Was hoping for a discount! It was never broadly reported, but Humble quietly stopped publishing it. I have no idea what happened with that.
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# ¿ Oct 15, 2019 17:27 |
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My favourite check failure is when you ask the truck driver, who's sprite is obviously smoking for a smoke, he claims he doesn't have one. If you fail the trivial perception check say something along the lines of "Perception (Sight): Your senses detect nothing wrong with this." It just cracked me up because it's so self-aware.
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# ¿ Oct 16, 2019 21:18 |
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Finally finished the game. Loved it. I think I need to let it settle in in my ranking system, but it's up there. I love that things like thisBroken Cog posted:
actually have logical INTERNALLY COHERENT explanations in the game. Give me more game ZA/UM. Also, get Kurvitz's novel published! e: Also give me my Klaasje spy game. CottonWolf fucked around with this message at 16:42 on Oct 26, 2019 |
# ¿ Oct 26, 2019 16:26 |
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SelenicMartian posted:Are there any good pants in the game? Yeah, the ones you wake up in at the start of the game leave a little to be desired.
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# ¿ Oct 26, 2019 21:48 |
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SardonicTyrant posted:I was not prepared for karaoke. Success or failure? Zane posted:at the end of the first day when you're smoking on the balcony he says he's a sort of lapsed moralist There's also some stuff that indicates that he was much more revolutionary as a teen/young adult, but that he's left that behind.
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# ¿ Oct 27, 2019 20:13 |
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SardonicTyrant posted:Failure, I think? Yeah, the failure song really goes for it...
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# ¿ Oct 27, 2019 20:27 |
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multijoe posted:Much appreciated, I'll make sure I can set up the rave for my partycop playthrough I never worked out why Shivers seemed so against anodic dance music. gently caress you Shivers, I'm setting up a rave in a church and you can't stop me.
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# ¿ Oct 27, 2019 20:56 |
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So considering that this game appears to be a success, what would people want for a sequel? Another case with the RCM? Whatever revolution's going down in Revachol? Personally, I want Klaasje: Intersoliary Woman of Mystery. They could even keep the 5 months pregnant idea that was floating around.
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# ¿ Oct 27, 2019 21:29 |
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Not that I found, but it was satisfying to make him.
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# ¿ Oct 27, 2019 22:05 |
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Shivers and Espirit de Corps are both great. They basically never chirp up with anything directly helpful, but they give really cool context to the world.
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# ¿ Oct 28, 2019 12:57 |
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I’m not sure. While the system allows for getting that high, they seem to have assumed that no-one will. See the 20 checks that don’t work even if you pass them (which is entirely possible if you start with a 6 in the relevant stat). I think that’s one of my few criticisms of the game, they don’t seem to reward min-maxing on certain skills as much as going for a jack of all trades build.
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# ¿ Oct 28, 2019 13:02 |
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And with Sacred and Terrible Air coming out next year, presumably if you want a different setting in the world to play in, that'll give enough information to scratch that itch. (I actually don't know if it's set in Revachol. I do know it's set 20 years after the game.)
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# ¿ Oct 28, 2019 20:19 |
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Communism is never wacky. That said, 5/2/1/4, is pretty competent. You could take Volition as your specialist skill for maximum good guy.
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# ¿ Oct 30, 2019 11:13 |
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Utgardaloki posted:the game does lean kind of hard into inventory shuffling and the stat system is a little cumbersome if you're into playing games to win and do well, relaxing and rolling with the punches doesn't come come naturally to everyone. I think they should have forced you to pick your clothing at the start of the day - a getting dressed for work sort of thing - and then not have allowed you to change it after that point until the next morning.
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# ¿ Oct 30, 2019 22:46 |
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+1 Logic: Super logical for a detective to wear this
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# ¿ Oct 30, 2019 23:08 |
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My Harry didn't arrest Klaasje purely based on the fact that Shivers was cool with her.
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# ¿ Oct 31, 2019 17:41 |
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Hackan Slash posted:If you think about it even more COMMUNISM killed those people I thought love did 'em in.
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# ¿ Oct 31, 2019 17:50 |
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# ¿ May 16, 2024 18:29 |
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No Mods No Masters posted:The ZA/UM manifesto should be p p good I really hope the stealth release their manifesto as the Disco Elysium expansion.
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# ¿ Nov 1, 2019 18:52 |