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GoluboiOgon posted:part of the wierdness about the hero being cherokee is that he is (loosely!) based off of real life televangelist oral roberts, who had a stranglehold on tulsa, ok. even the "tower of power" is based on the real prayer tower at oral roberts university. note how this monstrosity tops the distorted golden cross with a burning flame like that off of a refinery. Thank you for this. I was unfamiliar with Oral Roberts' backstory (besides him being a televangelist grifter), so it helps to see where the author is loosely basing his story on.
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OK, I just read through chapter 4, and this line is a good summary:
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Also, LOL at the Jesuit fear-mongering. I don't see that sentiment very often outside of Chick tracts.
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Author was lds. How am I not surprised ?
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Crowsbeak posted:Author was lds. How am I not surprised ? Ah, that explains his thorough and familiar knowledge of hard drugs. On the other hand, his Mormon beliefs should give him a first-hand knowledge of religious cults.
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that house seems to be based on the old oilman's mansion (now tourist destination) called woolaroc in OK. so imagine the senator giving that speech about the need to hire mercenaries to kill "communists and cannibals" in this ambiance. 
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lmao these heroes are basically Cobra but with Jesus instead of a cool snake
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so im a bit confused here im supposed to root for the oil baron megachuch guys who only talk to god about money but i also i should want to bang their 18 year old daughters too, right?
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GoluboiOgon posted:that house seems to be based on the old oilman's mansion (now tourist destination) called woolaroc in OK. I like the idea of having a place so big you can't possibly tell who's there at any given time. Basically Hitman games would only ever work in a place like this.
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LifeSunDeath posted:I like the idea of having a place so big you can't possibly tell who's there at any given time. Basically Hitman games would only ever work in a place like this. this was actually his small hunting lounge, his house was much bigger but has been since turned into a museum to house his collection of shunken heads and other
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babypolis posted:so im a bit confused here im supposed to root for the oil baron megachuch guys who only talk to god about money but i also i should want to bang their 18 year old daughters too, right? Everything they say about the bad guys sounds exactly the same as how they do things in Tulsa. Also big yikes to them talking about recruiting South Africans at the height of Apartheid.
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jfc Courtney stop rubbing everything I also like how the previous chapter was just exposition and bugs on faces.
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"... the latest proposal to declare San Francisco an all-gay city and off limits to straights."
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This is the second time they’ve introduced an evil cultist right after discussing the protagonists, making it sound like they’re describing the protagonists. Go back one or two paragraphs, and the cultist is mentioned in passing. I had to go back to make sure the professor lady the author insert wants to bang wasn’t a secret cultist spy.
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Bastard Tetris posted:This thread absolutely belongs in C-SPAM. You are probably right. A happy accident on my part.
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Blue Moonlight posted:This is the second time they’ve introduced an evil cultist right after discussing the protagonists, making it sound like they’re describing the protagonists. I should write up a brief synopsis for each chapter and a list of characters as they are introduced. It will probably get even more confusing as the story unfolds. In short: the protagonist good guys are horrible monsters.
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I love SoF magazine. They led one of the big civilian fundraising efforts to support the Mujahideen in the 80s, they would just buy guns and send them to Afghanistan to fight the evil Soviets. Of course these dudes went on to become the Taliban. There are full page ads on the back cover of many early 80s SoF magazines urging readers to support these "Afghan Freedom Fighters". All the tough dude badass vets with POW/MIA flags on their house would get out of watching Cannonball Run in the theaters and head home to write tax deductible checks to the Taliban. It's loving hilarious. Pryor on Fire has issued a correction as of 14:42 on Sep 25, 2019 |
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Tiggum posted:"... the latest proposal to declare San Francisco an all-gay city and off limits to straights." That is definitely my favorite line from chapter 5. My favorite plot point is the televangelist good guy plotting to send a death squad to kill the leaders of the ACLU (sorry, ACRA).
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Pryor on Fire posted:I love SoF magazine. They led one of the big civilian fundraising efforts to support the Mujahideen in the 80s, they would just buy guns and send them to Afghanistan to fight the evil Soviets. Of course these dudes went on to become the Taliban. Yeah, we've posted a ton of SOF scans in the GBS magazine thread. That's how we discovered this book! Will add a link when I'm on my computer. The old SOF ads are full of pro-apartheid Rhodesia ads too. EDIT: Here is the link to the magazine thread: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3887842 Issues of Soldier of Fortune and other right wing craziness are scattered throughout. Gutter Phoenix has issued a correction as of 15:42 on Sep 25, 2019 |
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Gutter Phoenix posted:In short: the protagonist good guys are horrible monsters.
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I'm super busy at work this morning, but I'm going to try to write up a brief synopsis and character list when I get time. I should probably do that before we get much further. If anyone else wants to jump in on that, feel free. I'll compile everything and put it in the OP. Chapter 6 is a bit long, so this is it for the actual text today (probably). Caro enters the picture...          
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Crowsbeak posted:Jesuits are supposed to be bad right? Yes, because they occasionally promote peace and social justice, which runs counter to the protestant interpretation of Jesus' teachings.
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Gutter Phoenix posted:Yes, because they occasionally promote peace and social justice, which runs counter to the protestant interpretation of Jesus' teachings. I wanted to make sure that we’re supposed to think the Jesuit building functional Socialist Utopian Societies was a bad thing.
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Crowsbeak posted:I wanted to make sure that we’re supposed to think the Jesuit building functional Socialist Utopian Societies was a bad thing. I remember reading somewhere that during the middle ages the text of the Acts of the Apostles was never taught/ read to the peasant classes because it features the early Christians living in a communal society and sharing everything in common. The medieval Catholic church didn't want the poors to get any funny ideas... American Protestant Free-Market Jesus™ is so far removed from the historical Jesus' ancient near eastern cynic/ eschatological philosophy (at least as far as scholars can credibly surmise) that it would be unrecognizable to modern Christians.
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This is a work in progress. Please let me know if I've missed anyone or anything. CAST: Senator Courtney Davenport - co-owner or DAVROCK Development/ Unquestioned theocratic co-ruler of Tulsa. Junior senator from Oklahoma. Reverend "Gypsy Joe" Rockland - also co-owner or DAVROCK Development/ Unquestioned theocratic co-ruler of Tulsa. "The alcoholic, ex-convict son of a Negro father and Cherokee mother." Gets keen on Jesus while being tortured in a Korean POW camp. Olivia Davenport - Daughter of Courtney. Cult enthusiast. Susan Rockland - Daughter of Gypsy Joe. Follower. Somehow 100% Cherokee even though her dad is only 50%. Easy lover. Andrea Macranskia - Hungarian psychologist who rebelled against her commie upbringing after a year at the Soviet Sverdlosk Institute. Marked for death by the KGB and their coke-addled cultist henchmen. Nick Portumo - Royal Marine. SAS. Now a freelance military strongman with a hatred of cults. [Father born in Cyprus and given British citizenship after fighting against Franco in the Spanish Civil War (even though based on his beliefs it seems like he would have worshiped Franco.)] Rodney Crampton - Slimy, effeminate, long-haired ACLU (ACRA) lawyer who wrongly believes people should have equal rights under the law. Carlos Von Reinarch - Son of a nazi. Inherited a bunch of land in Paraguay. Cult leader of "Holy Order." Cocaine smuggler. Dr. Martin Westhaupt - Commie double agent working for the Sverdlosk Institute. Gets a young cultist to attempt to kill Andrea Macranskia while hopped up on fast-acting cocaine pills. Angel Caro - US Army Special Forces, adviser to the Paraguayan Army. Seducer of Susan Rockland. Gutter Phoenix has issued a correction as of 19:11 on Sep 25, 2019 |
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In Nick's bio it was his father who fought in the Spanish civil war and got British citizenship after. I can understand the confusion because why the hell was that brought up at the Senate hearing? Also enjoyed the history of the region part, followed right after by Caro explaining the history of the region.
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muscles like this! posted:In Nick's bio it was his father who fought in the Spanish civil war and got British citizenship after. I can understand the confusion because why the hell was that brought up at the Senate hearing? Oops, my bad. I was just skimming the text while trying to look busy at work, so there is a very good chance I've missed important stuff and/ or mixed up details. I'll change that. Thanks!
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I think it's pretty funny the SAS guy feels an immediate kinship with the senator and his jutting cleft chin, upon learning that he's a reservist.
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muscles like this! posted:That got real racist real quick. It can’t be racist! The reverend is both Cherokee and black! 
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Recruits only white guys for their special team to go to third world countries and shoot people. Edit: I guarantee Caro's family has some kind of backstory that makes sure to mention they come from Spain and don't have any Mestizo blood.
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So you can just assume a woman tans in the nude if you don't see any visible tan lines. Lots of things wrong with this chapter but that just stuck out as odd.
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