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Tiggum
Oct 24, 2007

Your life and your quest end here.


Crowsbeak posted:

I wanted to make sure that we’re supposed to think the Jesuit building functional Socialist Utopian Societies was a bad thing.
It's weird how he acknowledges that the only reason they failed was because they were brought down by outside forces.

Gutter Phoenix posted:

Olivia Davenport - Daughter of Courtney. Cult enthusiast. 

Susan Rockland - Daughter of Gypsy Joe. Follower. Somehow 100% Cherokee even though her dad is only 50%. Easy lover.
I initially had these two confused because I thought Courtney's daughter must have been the reluctant one. Why do the Nazis want the half-black, fully-Cherokee girl so badly?

Cult Crushers posted:

... eighty-four men and a few females ...
I think this is the second time they've given a specific number of men and then added, like an afterthought, that there are also an unspecified number of :females: present.

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Speleothing
May 6, 2008

Spare batteries are pretty key.
I seriously cannot believe that this isn't a parody. Every single recruitment read like a joke.

Gutter Phoenix
Jul 23, 2013

I preferred your last avatar, so I put it back. My apologies to the pedo who purchased your last one (it's always projection).

muscles like this! posted:

That got real racist real quick.

You weren't kidding:





Here is a quick list of the mercenaries introduced in chapter 7:

Paul W. Lancaster - sales representative for DAVROCK Development Corporation, mercenary recruiter

Mike "Puerter" Detlefs - former South African race-warrior. Apartheid enthusiast. Hates the UN. 

Eli Shem Revvim - former Mossad mercenary. Hates the UN. 

Paul Redecker - former West German Grenzschutzgruppe sergeant. Hates the UN. 

Jean Trucdeau - former French Foreign Legion paratrooper. Hates the UN. 

Raul Caro - former US Army Blue Lights counter-terrorist soldier from Puerto Rico. Hates the UN. 

Gutter Phoenix
Jul 23, 2013

I preferred your last avatar, so I put it back. My apologies to the pedo who purchased your last one (it's always projection).
Chapter 8:













Speleothing
May 6, 2008

Spare batteries are pretty key.
And now the torture porn.

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


While the torture scene was super gross I do have to laugh at the idea it basically devolving into a cartoon at the end there where he lowered the body into the water and pulled up a full skeleton with all the flesh removed and somehow it doesn't just completely fall apart.

Gutter Phoenix
Jul 23, 2013

I preferred your last avatar, so I put it back. My apologies to the pedo who purchased your last one (it's always projection).

muscles like this! posted:

While the torture scene was super gross I do have to laugh at the idea it basically devolving into a cartoon at the end there where he lowered the body into the water and pulled up a full skeleton with all the flesh removed and somehow it doesn't just completely fall apart.

Gutter Phoenix
Jul 23, 2013

I preferred your last avatar, so I put it back. My apologies to the pedo who purchased your last one (it's always projection).
Chapter Nine

























Gutter Phoenix
Jul 23, 2013

I preferred your last avatar, so I put it back. My apologies to the pedo who purchased your last one (it's always projection).
As someone living smack dab between Oakland and San Francisco, I can confirm this portrayal of daily life here is 100% accurate:




Wow, this book just gets getting better! (By which I mean worse, of course.)

Dr. Killjoy
Oct 9, 2012

:thunk::mason::brainworms::tinfoil::thunkher:
drat, the LGBT community should really model our activism goals on whatever this psycho is on about

Mr.Pibbleton
Feb 3, 2006

Aleuts rock, chummer.

Dr. Killjoy posted:

drat, the LGBT community should really model our activism goals on whatever this psycho is on about

More fundraisers for oriental hatchets?

SavageMessiah
Jan 28, 2009

Emotionally drained and spookified

Toilet Rascal

wtf posted:

A Gay Blade

mods PLEASE

I brought my Drake
Jul 10, 2014

These high-G injections have some serious side effects after pulling so many jumps.

Silly me, I thought the recruited Z-Team would go into action searching for lost children instead of gassing airports and assassinating serial-numbers-filed-off Sun Myung Moon, who just happened to be the bad guy at the POW camp who kicked off ethnic slur Joe's religious transformation.

Odd that Tulsa wasn't the one newspaper that told it like it was. Unless DAVROCK suspended the press.

In short, :stonklol:

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


Super awesome that the guy in SF just killed people for coming up and talking to him at an airport. And how he just killed everyone in a bathroom just because they were homosexual (also anyone else who just happens to walk in after he did that.)

Kind of confused that the author seems to think gay people don't have jobs.

Dr. Killjoy
Oct 9, 2012

:thunk::mason::brainworms::tinfoil::thunkher:
Surprised that the author didn’t try to explain his “and somehow none of these queermo qultists seemed to notice they were being hit with poison needles” by stating that they were all on poppers and thus numbed to any pain but then remembered that is way too much drug info for him to actually know.

Blue Moonlight
Apr 28, 2005
Bitter and Sarcastic

Carl H. Yaeger posted:

The action arm of the Lavender Family was a sadomasochistic core of strong-arm men and some lesbians.
Look. Carl H. Yaeger can’t be homophobic. The proof is right here, where he treats lesbians just like any other :females:.

Tiggum
Oct 24, 2007

Your life and your quest end here.


"... unmistakable sounds of homosexual acts being performed."

Uh, what sounds are those exactly?


muscles like this! posted:

Kind of confused that the author seems to think gay people don't have jobs.
No time for a job when you spend all day smoking marijuana and participating in public orgies - as all gay men (and some lesbians) do.

Speleothing
May 6, 2008

Spare batteries are pretty key.
Why gently caress in the bathroom if your hypersexual gay exhibitionist cult rules the whole city? Why not just gently caress in the open?

Hodgepodge
Jan 29, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 236 days!

Tiggum posted:

"... unmistakable sounds of homosexual acts being performed."

Uh, what sounds are those exactly?

The author just assumes you're familiar from experience with totally not gay gay sex.

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

Speleothing posted:

Why gently caress in the bathroom if your hypersexual gay exhibitionist cult rules the whole city? Why not just gently caress in the open?

Don't kinkshame

Pastry of the Year
Apr 12, 2013

Speleothing posted:

Why gently caress in the bathroom if your hypersexual gay exhibitionist cult rules the whole city? Why not just gently caress in the open?

ready access to paper towels, running water, and real tough guys that will just give you twenty-five bucks if you raise an eyebrow at them

Gutter Phoenix
Jul 23, 2013

I preferred your last avatar, so I put it back. My apologies to the pedo who purchased your last one (it's always projection).

Gutter Phoenix posted:

Tract #30 - The Gay Blade (1972).



Top: 1972 original. Bottom: 2000 revision.

You may find this difficult to believe, but Jack Chick was against homosexuality.





The Gay Blade went out of print in 1983, not because it was deemed hateful, but because it was replaced with an even crazier anti-homosexual tract (Wounded Children). It was revised and reprinted in the year 2000, and has since gone out of print again.

It's difficult to say which version is more inflammatory. Here are a two examples comparing the original (left) with the revision (right).



On a positive note, the artwork is ably provided by Fred Carter. This is his second tract.


Here is a scan of the original:

https://www.scribd.com/document/77344732/Chick-Tract-The-Gay-Blade

Here is the current version:

http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0084/0084_01.asp

Gutter Phoenix
Jul 23, 2013

I preferred your last avatar, so I put it back. My apologies to the pedo who purchased your last one (it's always projection).
I apologize for the text getting hard to read on the edge of the even numbered pages. The binding is really tight and some pages are difficult to scan.





















Gutter Phoenix
Jul 23, 2013

I preferred your last avatar, so I put it back. My apologies to the pedo who purchased your last one (it's always projection).
I'm going to post chapters 11-13 so everyone has more to read over the weekend.

Chapter 11:



















Gutter Phoenix
Jul 23, 2013

I preferred your last avatar, so I put it back. My apologies to the pedo who purchased your last one (it's always projection).
Chapter 12:

























Gutter Phoenix
Jul 23, 2013

I preferred your last avatar, so I put it back. My apologies to the pedo who purchased your last one (it's always projection).
Chapter 13:


























We're at the halfway point! Hopefully I'll have time over the weekend to write up a quick synopsis of each of the chapters while I remember what the hell is going on in this crazy book.

I'll post more chapters when I'm back at work on Monday.

Tiggum
Oct 24, 2007

Your life and your quest end here.


What is it with the Paso Fino horses? The author seems obsessed with them.

Mr.Pibbleton
Feb 3, 2006

Aleuts rock, chummer.

They sure do kill a lot of Californians in this.

I brought my Drake
Jul 10, 2014

These high-G injections have some serious side effects after pulling so many jumps.

The scare quotes around oppressed, jfc. Reminds me of those folks who say "I'm not racist against the good ones" or some such poo poo.

And I need to start doing a rub count with Courtney. He just can't stop touching himself, inanimate objects, other people, etc.

And sex on vinyl beanbag chairs? Yuck.

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


This book is really confusing with its racism. Like you have the South Africa and Rhodesia boosting plus the fact that only one of the main characters is black (and then only "half" black) but it also has the bad guys espousing a lot of racist beliefs while saying they're wrong.

Also not sure where it's going with the comparisons between the Nazi and Courtney Davenport.

Tiggum
Oct 24, 2007

Your life and your quest end here.


muscles like this! posted:

Also not sure where it's going with the comparisons between the Nazi and Courtney Davenport.

Yeah, I thought their being basically the same was the author being blind to their own faults and accidentally writing a protagonist who had all the same beliefs as a literal Nazi, but it turns out that's intentional? So it really seems like the issue is branding; being a violent, homophobic, misogynistic, white-supremacist fascist is great - as long as you're doing it under a red, white and blue flag and not a black, white and red one.

Speleothing
May 6, 2008

Spare batteries are pretty key.
The answer is on the back cover: the two protagonists have to go to war with eachother at the end of the book.


Edit: smoke those marijuana leaves, boyos. It's completely legal!

Speleothing has issued a correction as of 20:59 on Sep 28, 2019

Gutter Phoenix
Jul 23, 2013

I preferred your last avatar, so I put it back. My apologies to the pedo who purchased your last one (it's always projection).
Ack! Busy weekend and I'm still trying to get caught up reading the last couple of chapters I posted. Nonetheless, here is another chapter for those of you chomping at the bit to get back into this splendid tale.

Chapter 14





























I brought my Drake
Jul 10, 2014

These high-G injections have some serious side effects after pulling so many jumps.

I was going to rant about how Parramore has been a nature preserve since the 1970s and that you poach oysters instead of pirating them, but :effort: This asinine story saps my will to live and I survived both the Major\Minor and Pokemon Reborn LPs.

Gutter Phoenix
Jul 23, 2013

I preferred your last avatar, so I put it back. My apologies to the pedo who purchased your last one (it's always projection).
I'm all caught up, and Jesus tap-dancing Christ, this book is bad! Even ignoring the content, why is he still constantly introducing new characters without fleshing out the tens of one-dimensional characters he's already introduced? I don't know what I was expecting from a Soldier of Fortune endorsed novel, but basic readability would be a nice start.

I can't remember if I've mentioned it in this thread, but my fiance is a professional fiction editor at a major publisher and worked at Tor early in her career (although long after this book was published, and in a different genre). I'm going to describe the plot and pacing of this trainwreck while we're at dinner tonight and see if she has any funny comments or anecdotes I can post here.

I apologize for skimping on the commentary. I thought I'd have more free time at work last week. I'm still planning on going back through and writing a brief synopsis of each chapter while they're fresh in my mind so that I never have to read this piece of poo poo again!

A hearty thanks to everyone who has stuck with it this far. Let's keep slogging through this mess. The next chapter is a long one.

Gutter Phoenix
Jul 23, 2013

I preferred your last avatar, so I put it back. My apologies to the pedo who purchased your last one (it's always projection).








































Gutter Phoenix
Jul 23, 2013

I preferred your last avatar, so I put it back. My apologies to the pedo who purchased your last one (it's always projection).


Going back to Chapter 11, I just wanted to mention how I liked that Counter-Cult One™ only rescued a chosen few from Satan's Pot Farm™. Maybe I missed it in the text, but I wonder how many cultists they left to be burned alive? I mean, they deserved it of course for smoking the Devil's Lettuce™, but still.

Dr. Killjoy
Oct 9, 2012

:thunk::mason::brainworms::tinfoil::thunkher:
this guy is really big into killing people with poison :gas:

creepily so

Mr.Pibbleton
Feb 3, 2006

Aleuts rock, chummer.

Wow, pretty much every plan that depended on an Indian ended in utter disaster, why weren't the Indians guarding the family? Why were the Indians so bad at oil drilling they caused the rig to explode and were the only ones not wearing hard hats at the work site? Then the author dedicates pages to how awesome Cherokee are, by Nazi standards.

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muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


Also the creepy part about Susan making goo goo eyes at the Nazi. Like the rest of the bad guys are all described as horrible, ugly people but for some reason the Nazi is all handsome and debonair (except when he's torturing people.)

Really not a fan of the "murdering children" section of the book either.

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