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Dr. Killjoy posted:I see cult deprogramming means programming them for a different kind of cult. Yeah, this chapter is especially insane. So they kidnap all of these kids out of cults, and then immediately indoctrinate them into another, far worse cult where they are forced to travel to Paraguay in a sketchy cocaine submarine and then slit a bunch of people's throats for various reasons including thoughtcrime?  I also like that they use the Tower of Power to send coded messages ordering their brainwashed minions to kill.  I also like the descriptions of Dr. Hilda:  This was in the previous chapter:  Dr. Hilda's uncontrollable lesbian desire to hatefuck Susan Rockland is another lovely bonkers twist.  
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muscles like this! posted:Oh no, the bad guys brought in top commandos, what will the counter cult troops do? Oh, they were all killed before the counter cult troops showed up, never mind. Well, Roadhouse came out in 1989:  Then again, Nick is no Sam Elliott.
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Gutter Phoenix posted:Some tribes did make out OK depending on what lovely land their reservations ended up on. I've read that the Aqua Caliente in Palm Springs, CA have done OK because their land is now worth a fortune. Most tribes have not been so lucky. flowers of the killer moon is a great book about osage wealth and how it was undermined by whites nervous about rich natives
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TenementFunster posted:yes, and many tribes from Oklahoma in particular where famously and fantastically wealthy for much of the early 20th century. that’s what that line was referring to. Ooh, I'll have to check that book out. Thanks for the tip!
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