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Ice Phisherman posted:That's how it's going to be framed in the media and you know it. he was specifically trying to threaten/extort/bribe the anti Russian Ukranian government and the non Fox (online article, dunno about non msnbc tv) media has actually been pretty clear about that so far because it's part of why the whole thing is terrible
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Sep 24, 2019 10:03
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it's my understanding that a committee on impeachment is how you get the legal status of a real deal big boy formal impeachment inquiry, unless you want to devote a very major part of the full House's business to it, which... I guess you could do but I'm not seeing the problem (assuming it is put together in a timely fashion) I assume you could instead delegate the duty to House Judiciary but impeachment investigations aren't the only thing THEY do, so similar efficiency questions to spending House time on it
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Sep 24, 2019 19:13
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Au Revoir Shosanna posted:https://twitter.com/AlexThomasDC/status/1176558849303699458 oh so nadler wanted it? if he thinks he'd be good for it i think i'd rather have it in judiciary then, but we'll see what this committee looks like if it happens
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Sep 24, 2019 19:26
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mango sentinel posted:Ukraine should just burn him. they're terrified of getting hung out to dry in the meantime, that's what the extortion / threats / bribery was about in the first place Groovelord Neato posted:the guy that's withholding it doesn't have the ability to do so once the person who passed it on to him determined it should be given to congress. of course like the rest of this admin rules don't apply to him. congress has a really really strong case in court on this as a result though
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Sep 24, 2019 19:37
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Dick Trauma posted:https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/1176561477731409920 *sighs and adds another tally mark to "Awful Authoritarians Trump Loves"*
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Sep 24, 2019 20:25
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Sep 24, 2019 20:54
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Retro42 posted:https://twitter.com/jakesherman/status/1176581805283184640?s=21 well that's an... interesting move
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Sep 24, 2019 20:55
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Pollyanna posted:Huh. The House actually tried for impeachment a little. the investigation is more important than the vote and it sounds like we done got it 
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Sep 24, 2019 22:18
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Dapper_Swindler posted:god this is such a good day. good day at new job. stupid cool game stuff. impeachment possibly starting, trump getting mad and screaming on twitter. gently caress yeah good day. and mtga expansion and first episode of the final Good Place season on Thursday
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Sep 24, 2019 22:21
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teacup posted:So why actually “matters” with this? Like will Pelosi just say “oh we didn’t find enough evidence to actually begin hearings”? What’s the most likely scenario from here? buttloads of investigation of All The Crimes with improved subpoena power
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Sep 24, 2019 22:33
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BigBallChunkyTime posted:I'm hearing that Nancy scrapped the plan to have an Impeachment committee and instead will let the six individual committees conduct their own investigations because nobody wanted to give uo the gavel. Any truth to that? that's my impression and I think I'm pretty happy with it besides, it's not like there aren't six committees worth of crimes crimes crimes
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Sep 24, 2019 22:41
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I love whoever runs the official dictionary twitter account
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Sep 24, 2019 23:04
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Sep 24, 2019 23:06
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FizFashizzle posted:MSNBC just reported that Trump called Pelosi today and asked if they could "work something out" with the ukraine thing.  I hope to Allah this is true
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Sep 24, 2019 23:09
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Tibalt posted:Shutting the government didn't go so great for them last time, no. Yeah the population / voters, while generally low info, are surprisingly good at figuring out who was responsible for the shutdown and then usually blaming them for it unless they had a really REALLY good reason. If Trump causes a shutdown over impeachment investigations, then holy lol. Too bad about the human suffering involved though.
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Sep 24, 2019 23:34
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Numlock posted:She’s a jellyfish, all sting and no backbone. and will inherit the earth 
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Sep 25, 2019 00:43
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Sep 25, 2019 00:46
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Edmund Lava posted:Gabbard stated she’s not for it either. What the gently caress is going on in Hawaii? turns out Hawaii is plotting to destroy the United States which, frankly, is pretty fair
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Sep 25, 2019 04:05
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lili'uokalani will, at long last, have her vengance pretty sure that's in leviticus
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Sep 25, 2019 04:06
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eviltastic posted:Might've been, for all I know. Regarding the broader significance, it's a complicated answer and I gotta sleep, but I'll try to put together a post if nobody else mentions it and I get the time. Short answer is it's a good precedent that was also very inconvenient. Followup cases would be Ex parte Quirin, Johnson v Eisentrager, and a bunch of poo poo from the Bush administration because of course there was. i, for one, have absolutely no interest in the deeply nerdy inner details of every single supreme court case and lower court case available on this topic or any other fascinating topic, and frankly it'd be weird if anyone thought i did
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Sep 25, 2019 07:23
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RoboChrist 9000 posted:To be fair, I’m also not sure it is entirely unreasonable to expect Quislings to Quisling and that the Democrats would never finally make a move. are you entirely incapable of accepting that House Democrats did a good thing? edit: "o ho, we finally had something good happen, but have you considered that House Dems Are Bad nonetheless" is a Bad Take, just so we're clear here; it is demonstrably wrong, right now, today, in the most dramatic fashion since uh the coronation of Donald I Trump Goatse James Bond fucked around with this message at 09:03 on Sep 25, 2019 |
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Sep 25, 2019 08:59
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Majorian posted:This is also true, although when applying prepositions to "Ukraine" in Russian, it takes on weird properties that aren't the case with most (maybe any?) other country. In Russian, as in English, you say "I am in America" or "I am in Russia." When you say "I am in Ukraine," it becomes "I am on [the] Ukraine." (ie: suggesting that you're literally on the edge of the empire) wonder if that's the same in Polish ...which ALSO subjugated most/all of Ukraine for a while eke out posted:the funny thing about getting mad at the Ukraine whistleblower's attorney is that... lol i'm gonna have to remember that for chudchat, which happens sometimes given that I am in Texas not THAT often though, I avoid expressing my opinions on politics for professional reasons
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Sep 25, 2019 20:46
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Solaris 2.0 posted:Tulsi Gabbard is such an embarrassment goddamn. Like, who the gently caress is her base of support? mazie hirono's from hawaii and owns so not ALL hawaiians are nutters, otherwise i'd just assume there's something in the water nationally, tulsi's beloved of particularly stupid tankies, particularly ignorant leftists, particularly ignorant and/or terrible indian-americans, and democrats who really hate muslims and has access to a huge pile of cash from terrible Indian-Americans like, if she came seriously out against modi and his hindutva garbagemonsters, that would be a "gillibrand disses bill clinton for being ein sexmonster" pivot / act of moral courage, because her money lake would probably dry up on the spot edit: also she isn't just not-pro-impeachment, she went on CNN yesterday and said it was a bad dangerous idea  https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1176609680048738305 Goatse James Bond fucked around with this message at 21:16 on Sep 25, 2019 |
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Sep 25, 2019 21:09
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Cefte posted:It's really a pleasure to have you back, mate. this but... unironically?
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Sep 25, 2019 22:08
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theflyingorc posted:I don't think they can, because "it was a year before" is a much, much simpler counter-narrative. Uranium One didn't get a lot of play in the media, either, because it was similarly stupid. I'm still really irritated that the Uranium One thing got turned into stupid worthleas noise because it revealed some genuinely bad, genuinely scandalous corruption in the nuclear industry, and nobody knows cares or remembers because the GOP's takeaway was HILLARY HILLARY HILLARY ARGLBARGL
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Sep 25, 2019 22:16
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Cefte posted:I wasn't being ironic. Too few oldschool goodposters left. a very notmad poster once called me a "low rent evilweasel" and it was one of the finest compliments of my posting career 
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Sep 25, 2019 22:20
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Majorian posted:Drag it out for the next 13 months, imo. Yeah I think this is where I'm at, the closer we get to the election the more high risk high reward an actual impeachment vote becomes, and besides it's frankly entirely accurate to say "there are so many crimes that a year isn't nearly enough time to investigate them adequately". Just investigate All The Crimes with all six committees and let Sanders or Warren bludgeon him with them in the general.
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Sep 25, 2019 22:26
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eke out posted:im having trouble following evilweasel;s posts because the avatar is changing every four minutes due to so many people still holding a grudge lol the weasel with The Quote is great, I hope it wins it also makes him look like an rear end in a top hat if you hate him, so those posters should be fine with it too!
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Sep 25, 2019 22:26
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sexpig by night posted:yea 'her emails' were a low grade scandal because there was some shady bullshit in there and she 100% hosed with her poo poo to hide it but it was also a weird soupy mess of quasi-legal and probably low level illegal stuff wrapped in like ten different conspiracy theories ranging from normal 'uh yes I believe the secretary of state who was married to the former president and has a huge amount of wealth and power did some shady poo poo to benefit herself' to 'yes I do think Clinton eats baby hearts to fuel her child rape orgies what of it'. It was a mess because there were like ten different scandals and """""scandals""""" in one umbrella of 'clinton emails bad'. just out of curiosity, is there any actual evidence the guy was taking bribes, or is it just the same rumors and gossip I've heard (plus, you know, him being a Ukrainian government official so of COURSE he was taking bribes)?
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Sep 25, 2019 22:29
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evilweasel posted:the key thing to keep in mind is it's not only about the presidency: it will be difficult to take the senate, but if dems do take the senate much more can get done than if they don't, and if an impeachment trial makes it easier to knock off the fourth or fifth seat needed to take the senate, that's something really important. Yeah that's the flip side, the reward could conceivably be worth the risk if impeachment is broadly popular enough.
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Sep 25, 2019 22:30
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this is a big reason not to piss off a career intelligence guy, their job consists almost entirely of writing inhumanly detailed reports
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Sep 25, 2019 22:31
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:I was gone for months too but I’m glad no one noticed. I did kinda wonder actually
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Sep 25, 2019 22:55
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VitalSigns posted:Everyone is glad evilweasel is back, but here I am slaving away in the posting mines every single day for yall and no one gives me any credit you worked your way off my ignore list, so I guess everyone is capable of redemption except fishmech
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Sep 25, 2019 22:58
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sexpig by night posted:for anyone wondering how desperate the right wing media is for arguments other than 'buuuh who cares though' Fox literally just played Pelosi during the Clinton impeachments saying she was against it as if being against Clinton being impeached means you can't think Trump should be. lol I will say, one of the more satisfying things about the last 24-48 hours has been various conservative elements losing their cool Fox, Mitch McConnell frantically trying to derail the train, and of course President Crimes
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Sep 25, 2019 23:12
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19 o'clock posted:Speaking strictly as an accountant of over a decade: yeah this seems like something that will make people Real Mad who you don't eant even mildly miffed
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Sep 25, 2019 23:24
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look who's gonna be real surprised when he's reincarnated as a sixteenth century Belarussian peasant
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Sep 25, 2019 23:29
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Dubar posted:at this exact moment, the house is (unanimously!) passing a strongly worded letter which says, among other things, that the president cant do that ...unanimously? GOP shook
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Sep 25, 2019 23:29
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19 o'clock posted:For that matter, FUAXTON woke me up to the USPIS and how you REALLY shouldn't gently caress with the USPS: yeah Postal Inspectors are probably the most terrifying law enforcement in the country Do Not Steal Mail, Do Not Commit Mail Fraud, Do Not gently caress With The Mail Or Its Servants In Any Way
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Sep 25, 2019 23:45
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There Bias Two posted:I'm sorry what? He shut out diplomatic communication unless they agreed to discuss manufacturing dirt on his political opponent? God drat that's brazen. this is not how i would have predicted the Mattering would happen but lol
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Sep 25, 2019 23:54
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