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Yeah, Eli is going to get in and the highlight reel is going to be 75% the two Super Bowls he was mostly above-average(except in his strength, throwing picks) outside of that. Rivers should get in because he's better than Eli and arguably better than Big Ben, but he may not be first ballot because "LOL RINGZ". Eli will get in first because he'll be eligible first, unless he wants to bum around taking back-up jobs like Warren Moon. Big Ben will talk himself into playing at least one more season, probably.
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1/3 of the QBs active in the league at ant point in time are gonna be HoFers , so let rivers in just like Eli, ben, Brees, Brady, Russ, mahomes , wentz , minshew and cam and whoever else I'm forgetting.
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Eli is going to have a very hard time getting into the Hall of Fame
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Eli deserves to get in the Hall of Fame solely due to Eli Face.
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DariusLikewise posted:Eli is going to have a very hard time getting into the Hall of Fame why do you believe that all time great quarter-back eli manning will be in difficulty
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not sure there's any more boring conversation than this one. sorry guys i call like i see em
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Play posted:not sure there's any more boring conversation than this one. sorry guys i call like i see em Would u say it belongs in the hall of lame
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sweet thursday posted:Would u say it belongs in the hall of lame ill leave the zingers to you
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DariusLikewise posted:Eli is going to have a very hard time getting into the Hall of Fame
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people will want to put eli in the hall because of his two super bowl wins and because it pays to keep new york happy he was productive enough by volume that they will be able to justify this imo that production was very inefficient of course, but this can be handwaved if it's a guy people want to see in there basically, when his name comes up in 2020something you'll hear "50,000+ passing yards, 360 passing touchdowns" a lot more than you'll hear "60% completion percentage, never made all-pro, never was really anywhere close to being a top 5 guy in the league at any given time" of course a lot of the current guys will be joining the 50,000 yards + 300 touchdowns club, but eli should have some time left before those numbers become pase
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Are there any QBs who have won 2 Super Bowls who are not in the Hall of Fame? Pretty sure Eli would be first ballot just on the strength of beating the 18-1 Patriots, but the second Super Bowl really cements it. Ben might not get in, because I have a feeling that as soon as he's no longer under the Steelers umbrella of protection, he's going to get his dumb rear end thrown in prison. If he can stay clean for 5 years, yeah, he's first ballot. Rivers is not first ballot, but he'll get there eventually, probably with some fan/nerd campaign full of neckbeards who are like, "Well, actually PHILIP RIVERS had BLAH BLAH stat line and DID SOME THING hurr durr hurr durr durr, etc."
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LabyaMynora posted:Are there any QBs who have won 2 Super Bowls who are not in the Hall of Fame? Jim Plunkett.
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Terrell Suggs will probably get in but I wonder if he'll be first ballot.
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LabyaMynora posted:Are there any QBs who have won 2 Super Bowls who are not in the Hall of Fame? Jim Plunkett who has a career extremely close to Eli's and never received significant push for the Hall. Ben was a much, much better quarterback throughout his career, at every stage then Eli. Rivers was also much better, of course. The biggest question with Eli is will their ever be a year where there aren't 5 way more deserving worthy of enshrinement. Like here's the guys from the 15 finalists who didn't get in this year, who does Eli belong over? Isaac Bruce, WR -- 1994-2007 Los Angeles/St. Louis Rams, 2008-09 San Francisco 49ers Edgerrin James, RB -- 1999-2005 Indianapolis Colts, 2006-08 Arizona Cardinals, 2009 Seattle Seahawks Steve Atwater, S -- 1989-1998 Denver Broncos, 1999 New York Jets John Lynch, FS -- 1993-2003 Tampa Bay Buccaneers, 2004-07 Denver Broncos Tony Boselli, T -- 1995-2001 Jacksonville Jaguars, 2002 Houston Texans (injured reserve) Steve Hutchinson, G --2001-05 Seattle Seahawks, 2006-2011 Minnesota Vikings, 2012 Tennessee Titans Alan Faneca, G -- 1998-2007 Pittsburgh Steelers, 2008-09 New York Jets, 2010 Arizona Cardinals Richard Seymour, DE/DT -- 2001-08 New England Patriots, 2009-2012 Oakland Raiders Don Coryell, Coach -- 1973-77 St. Louis Cardinals, 1978-1986 San Diego Chargers Tom Flores, Coach -- 1979-1987 Oakland/Los Angeles Raiders, 1992-94 Seattle Seahawks And the 10 semi-finalists that didn't make the cut are another who's who of all pros and SB winners: Ronde Barber LeRoy Butler Torry Holt Jimmy Johnson Clay Matthews Karl Mecklenburg Sam Mills Zach Thomas Hines Ward Darren Woodson
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Eli's in on the first ballot just because the NFL will have a boner for bringing back Peyton for the night and the ~*storyline*~ of "oh boy, THE MANNING BROTHERS, SQUEEEEEEE!!!"
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Honestly the real question will be frank gore who was#2 in rushing once and never top 5 any other year but is gonna end up#3 all time
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Kalli posted:Jim Plunkett who has a career extremely close to Eli's and never received significant push for the Hall. Clay Matthews JR belongs in the Hall
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Flikken posted:Clay Matthews JR belongs in the Hall of lovely players!
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mastershakeman posted:1/3 of the QBs active in the league at ant point in time are gonna be HoFers , so let rivers in just like Eli, ben, Brees, Brady, Russ, mahomes , wentz , minshew and cam and whoever else I'm forgetting. pro bowl quarterback "mitch" trubisky
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mastershakeman posted:1/3 of the QBs active in the league at ant point in time are gonna be HoFers , so let rivers in just like Eli, ben, Brees, Brady, Russ, mahomes , wentz , minshew and cam and whoever else I'm forgetting. Rodgers is first ballot. Brees probably too. Mahomes may be the GOAT when all is said and done.
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Maybe if Minshew* doesn't turn back into a pumpkin, the Jags can deal trade Big Dick Nick for something good. *I fully expect him to flame out, sends the Jags can't have nice things
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FizFashizzle posted:of lovely players! You know I'm talking about the one that has been retired for 20 years not his son right?
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Oh noooo not hall of fame chat I'd rather have some hall of fame chaat Gonna have to track down a good Indian restaurant tomorrow
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Leon Einstein posted:Rodgers is first ballot. Brees probably too. I can't believe I forgot Rodgers Also foles to bears who says no
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Flikken posted:You know I'm talking about the one that has been retired for 20 years not his son right? Nothing before 1998 counts
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a neat cape posted:Nothing before 1998 counts
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a neat cape posted:Nothing before 1998 counts
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a neat cape posted:Nothing before 1998 counts
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Acebuckeye13 posted:Staff's had ups and downs, but I'd argue that in sum total he's been more than worth what the Lions have paid him. He's started every game since the beginning of the 2011 season (Good for 6th most consecutive starts of all active players), and has been a driving force behind what little success the Lions have had since he was drafted. He's not the best QB, but he's been consistently been in the top half of the league, is often top ten, and just two days ago nearly managed to outduel Pat Mahomes (And statistically had the better game). He's a good player and a great foundation to build a team around—and if anything, it's the fault of the Lions organization for failing to do so for so many years. Yeah, exactly. I'll repeat again: he's Jay Cutler for a more stockholm'd fanbase.
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New rule: The Hall of Fame is full. If you want someone new in, you have to vote someone old out.
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PostNouveau posted:New rule: The Hall of Fame is full. If you want someone new in, you have to vote someone old out. Tony Dungy.
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wandler20 posted:Tony Dungy. Lynn Swann.
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