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Dreaming 20th Anniversary's writers made heroic efforts to turn the gameline around, and honestly succeeded incredibly well. They came up with a take on Banality that's useful (basically, anything that makes you too tired to have fun is banal), reworked the Unseelie Court so that it has a philosophy beyond just being a murderous lunatic, and came up with a system for hsien magic that actually works. On top of all that, the Arts and Realms were reworked into a magic system for Kithain that's good, actually powerful, and makes every Art and Realm worth buying or combining. (I think changelings are now one of the most powerful splats instead of definitely the weakest.) Unfortunately, Matt McFarland is a very bad developer as well as a rapist, and the book isn't consistent about any of this stuff. The Unseelie have a reasonable philosophy in their discussion section, but all the Unseelie legacies are only fit for murderous lunatics because they're unchanged from the last edition. Some sections still occasionally refer to science as banal because writers who didn't read any of the discussions on the topic didn't get their drafts edited. The king and queen are waiting for a sidhe baby to be born and settle the succession, which is not actually a thing that happens. Also the Gallain got squeezed into such a tiny section that there's no room to explain what purpose they serve in the game or why you would play one. Honestly, they never actually had a purpose, and they probably should have gotten a full book of their own instead of being crushed into such a tiny space.
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Shrecknet posted:It still cant be worse than nWoD Mage corebook, which made the baffling decision to have gold text on silver pages so it is literally physically unreadable at any distance M20 is honestly a lot worse than Awakening 1e, although not for that reason.
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Sep 28, 2019 17:42
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Witches. Not mages, like, actual people in pointy hats who run around on their high horse cursing people and getting into really petty neighborhood drama.
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Oct 5, 2019 00:27
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You worked hard on this, guy. On behalf of yourself and everybody else who puts things on the Vault, you ought to charge a reasonable price for it.
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Loomer posted:All it is is a compilation of other people’s writings, summarised and cross referenced. The only original work and content is in things like the Noddist exegesis and bloodline charts and editors notes, so I feel a bit awkward even considering putting a more than token price on it, and I did make a commitment to the thread years ago to release it for free. Which I suppose the basic version without the extra effort of layout and such satisfies. That's true of a lot of history! Cross-referencing is work. All in favor of Loomer making a bit of money off this, say aye!
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Oct 13, 2019 16:04
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I mean, how many top Mage people are there? If the other two devs were busy there might be nobody else, especially since a lot of them would probably want to seriously alter the setting.
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Oct 31, 2019 17:25
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Dirty Secrets of the Black Hand is kind of infamous as a "peak 2e" book where they just kind of throw a bunch of insane poo poo at the wall. I wouldn't call it bad so much as very not normative. There's a V20 version of the book which brings the True Hand more in line with the rest of the setting and was very well-received.
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Nov 1, 2019 12:29
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Nessus posted:Dude apparently is an obligatory blood drinker which seems to be the core qualification. On what grounds is he not? Well, he never died.
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Nov 2, 2019 05:08
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I mean, I feel like "is a dead thing wandering around" is a fairly important bit of being a vampire, and if Cain didn't die then he isn't that.
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Nov 2, 2019 05:33
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KotE has loads of good material and its problems are fixable, but the bit you would have to rewrite to do the fixing is, more or less, the skeleton. It would be about four times as big a rewrite as Changeling 20th got, and that was the biggest adjustment so far.
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Nov 6, 2019 15:28
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It looks like Colin Suleiman is in the. comments on Mummy being salty that he wasn't consulted.
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Nov 7, 2019 01:54
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Swedracula insisted for V5 that vampires don't have souls and can't become wraiths. It wasn't canon before that.
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Nov 7, 2019 23:02
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Unfortunately, the new Mummy manuscript is a mess. I feel a little guilty for using this metaphor when I'm trying to give constructive criticism, but it's too good to avoid: it's like they heard that mummies in 2e experience their lives non-chronologically and decided to write the whole book that way. Concepts are constantly being discussed in detail before you have the necessary context for them to make any sense at all, and information is given to the reader in an apparently random order. I was honestly only able to make any sense of the book at all because I had read 1e. I feel like the conceptual changes they've made are good? But the manuscript needs to go back to the shop for a serious rearrangement on the technical end. It's completely useless to introduce anybody to the game as it is.
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Nov 9, 2019 00:16
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I Am Just a Box posted:I think that the CofD 2e corebooks suffer doubly from having the precedent set by the Vampire 2e core. Yeah, it's bad, and it's been getting steadily worse. Requiem 2e started by detailing all the "types of vampire" splats, and it basically worked because Requiem is relatively close to the standard urban fantasy vampire lore, largely because Masquerade helped define that lore in the first place. You could fill in any gaps in your knowledge by just assuming it works like it does in Anne Rice. But then they did it again in Werewolf, where it didn't work nearly as well, because Forsaken don't really resemble traditional werewolf lore, um, at all. You wound up reading a book that describes in detail just how Forsaken are ruthless, unstoppable murderers long before you get any context on why they kill so many people and why they aren't just serial slashers. This tendency gets worse and worse the more high-concept a game line is, and Mummy is the most high-concept of all. They really, really, really, really need to quit it.
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Nov 9, 2019 01:59
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Desiden posted:I backed at the entry level out of curiosity at some of the talk and...yeah. The first thing that hit me starting to read it was that the first two chapters were out of order. Like, I actually thought there was some editing weirdness and when putting together the file they had reversed the order. The game just launches into all this babble about guilds and purposes and descents and risings before it even tells you what a mummy even is or where they come from. Then chapter 2 is more of the normal intro chapter, explaining Irem and how mummies got created and stuff. Its weird. Yeah, the thing is that every CoD book, since Requiem 2e, is exactly like this.
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Nov 9, 2019 02:03
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PHIZ KALIFA posted:it's zombies, right? isn't it just zombies? I kind of got the impression it was "oh, the Contagion can be anything you want!".
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Nov 9, 2019 02:20
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Releasing the manuscripts in chunks seems to be a better way of spreading the word, because people are more likely to dig into it that way than if you just give them a giant unformatted book and hope they get to it that month.
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Nov 9, 2019 20:07
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Gilded Cage was the Masquerade version of that and was quite popular.
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Nov 12, 2019 20:14
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Loomer posted:So here's a thought. When the Camarilla was first proposed, no one was that keen. It took the diablerie of Hardestadt the Elder the next year to really cause sufficient panic to get people on board. Hardestadt was a powerful, powerful figure and somehow a raw neonate ate him. Isn't the highly-hinted-at official answer "Hardestat the Elder, who Hardestat the Younger secretly is"?
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Nov 14, 2019 04:15
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KotE is okay at its bones but you’d probably have to change a lot about its presentation to make it not-racist, and once you do that it might be easier to just make a new game.
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Nov 19, 2019 15:41
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It kind of ballooned, in part, I think, because they stick to the silly handwriting fonts throughout.
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Nov 22, 2019 04:03
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I absolutely want to see an F&F of Beckett.
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Nov 22, 2019 16:34
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I mean, probably nobody could catch it all, but if you tell what you see other people will chime in.
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Nov 22, 2019 18:17
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I keep wishing they'd get into ePub instead of doing those weird little phone PDFs. Meanwhile, I just turned my Exalted bestiary money into some print copies of Awakening 2e and Signs of Sorcery, and they look really nice. The color paper with fairly sparing use of color looks way better than I had expected.
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Nov 25, 2019 00:50
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This is basically how shipping things out of the US works now.
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Dec 1, 2019 04:23
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White Wolf is gone, period. CCP fired everybody years ago.
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Dross posted:OPP is where most of the WW alumni are from what I understand. No, they’re basically all gone at this point. Rich Thomas and Eddy Webb are the only ones left, and Eddy only does his creator-owned stuff. At this point, it’s an open question whether OPP is able to survive the transition now that Paradox is more-or-less openly taking the World of Darkness from them. (Not that I know what’s going to happen to the World of Darkness license now that Modiphius seems to have decided Vampire isn’t worth the hassle.)
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Lord_Hambrose posted:What does OPP have in the pipeline other than the things they have currently kickstarted? Will there be another Vampire the Requiem book? Or is the situation more that everyone is working on the Kickstarter things so in a few years we will get another batch of kickstarted books and the cycle will continue. Their Monday Meeting Notes should tell you everything they have in the pipeline.
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It’s been explicitly stated that there won’t be any new 20th Anniversary Lines (unless that changes, I guess).
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Discarding Exalted's traditional crunchy approach in favor of a totally different game would result in an angry schism comparable to Mage Revised or V5. Like, if you think "let's drop this and go for something simpler" is something universally desired, well.
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Lambo Trillrissian posted:Its nice that there's apparently enough demand that there will be both. Yeah, and they don't have to interfere with each other.
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MonsieurChoc posted:I don't want to spend fifteen minutes every time I take an action to choose which of the many many charms I want to use to slightly modify my dice roll. That... isn’t really a thing that happens? When are you ever going to have more than three or four?
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House Tremere: In any decently-organized civilization it would be madness to put us in charge, but this is medieval Europe so we're probably the best option.
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My personal peeve with Malkavians is the ones whose curse is basically "they are stuck with some delusion which they will never, ever abandon, even when it's obviously counterfactual." My favorite Malkavian is the one in Beckett who believes he is a character in a TV show, and is renowned for being extremely level-headed because when things go badly for him he just blames the writers.
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Dec 16, 2019 22:41
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You can theoretically reason with the Brujah or even get them psychiatric treatment, but the Malkavian tends to have their delusions as an a priori fact.
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I Am Just a Box posted:Your least favorite Malkavians revolve around a central core delusion, and your most favorite Malkavian is one who revolves around a central core delusion? Yeah, it's just that one is kind of fun and doesn't really make "this person needs help" the only thing you think of when they're present in the way that say, the elder who thinks he's two people who both spend eternity pointlessly loving with each other does.
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Dec 17, 2019 01:51
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The best (and possibly only good) source of more information would be the Revised Followers of Set book.
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cptn_dr posted:Dark Eras 2 PDF is out for backers. I didn't realize I had already posted, but here are my opinions already sitting here waiting for me.
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