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Braggart
Nov 10, 2011

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Vincent Van Goatse posted:

The British Left won in a landslide in 1906 because Balfour decided to be too clever by half and let Campbell-Bannerman into No. 10 in the hopes the Radicals and the Liberal Imperialists would destroy each other in a minority government.

Parliamentary Labour might owe its existence to Balfour's bad judgement because they were carried into office alongside the Liberals, going from a two MPs to 29.

If only people had learned from this in time to stop Hitler :(

And if only we had learned from that in time to stop Jeremy Corbyn! :gonk:

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Braggart
Nov 10, 2011

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It is not good that the Tory party is collapsing, says Labour MP.

Braggart
Nov 10, 2011

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Rarity posted:

You are such a loving idiot

Exactly as stupid as the Extinction Rebellion leadership, I would say, because that does seem to be how they think. They're not teaching you how to fail, you idiots, they're teaching you how to survive in an incredibly hostile system. They learned these things the hard way, and because of your arrogance you will have to do that too. loving middle class brain geniuses convinced they're good at everything automatically :D

Braggart
Nov 10, 2011

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radmonger posted:

In other words, how to make protestIng a life long hobby, not something you do with the aim of achieving some political or social change.

Lol what? No, it is about being successful in the aims of protests. It's about applying pressure in effective ways, rather than making a statement and loving off a la Extinction Rebellion. It's about protecting and supporting each other in the face of state actors who use every dirty trick imaginable to grind people down, discourage or frighten them, or just beat the poo poo out of them or lock them up. Do not talk to the police if you're protesting. They will gently caress you up the instant it's convenient for them. Any pretence otherwise is just to string you along and get intel to harm you and your movement.

We've seen ER activists getting visits from police prior to protests even happening. This is because the police know who to put pressure on. Because the dipshits talked to the police.

Old hands learned hard lessons out protesting and winning real change. To ignore their advice is the height of arrogance. And it's harming many naive people who trust the leadership of Extinction Rebellion.

Your takes are idiotic.

Braggart
Nov 10, 2011

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Bundy posted:

Apparently a thing happened at the Barking AGM

"'Absolute mayhem' at Barking AGM, member threatens to call police on Hodge"

e: 101, the minimum score needed to win Bully's Star Prize

At least it's appropriately named :dadjoke:

Braggart
Nov 10, 2011

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Failed Imagineer posted:

Telegraph really going in hard on Bercow for...getting some doors fixed in his flat...that he won't be living in after October.

https://twitter.com/LadyDurrant/status/1182706669048025088?s=19

This reminds me of the time there was a story about MPs having their credit cards suspended that led with Corbyn being one of them. The only further mention of Corbyn was halfway down repeating that fact because they had nothing actually salacious on him. These things only matter when the press hates the person involved. Didn't we just have a story about Boris allegedly funnelling public money to a woman because he was loving her? But oh no Bercow bought a washing machine. And it cost several hundred pounds! :byodood:

Braggart
Nov 10, 2011

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Angry Lobster posted:

Literally money laundering! And don't forget about the christmas tree.

How dare he celebrate Christmas like some out of touch champagne socialist elite? Doesn't he remember that Theresa May cancelled Christmas? Alright for some!

Braggart
Nov 10, 2011

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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:

This but no trade enters

And everyone who can leaves.

Braggart
Nov 10, 2011

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Josef bugman posted:

I'm scared of large crowds and I often want to run away if I feel any attention directed at me from people. I also think that I don't like being "seen" protesting partially because of my own cowardice and partially because if I do something bad I could get everyone else in trouble.

If you're uncomfortable with crowds then you don't have to stand in a protest yourself. As others have said, there's also logistics, planning and support. All very important and potentially a more appropriate use of your skills and energy :)

Braggart
Nov 10, 2011

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Miftan posted:

How am I getting both blamed and praised for the headline about that lunatic who shat himself after eating chocolate oranges :psyduck:

I bet it was the most fragrant poo tho

Braggart
Nov 10, 2011

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Rhetorical feces

Braggart
Nov 10, 2011

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Scruffy old Corbyn clearly can't take things seriously enough to be a good PM. Meanwhile look at the statesmanship emanating from Boris!

Braggart
Nov 10, 2011

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People were talking about cuckooing earlier. Would that involve an enormous overnight increase in visitors to a flat, so far lasting nearly a week? It's all day every day in a building that was extremely quiet. I am in all day because disabled and any noise made in the stairwell is quite loud inside my flat. I haven't tried to make out what they're saying because that would be nosy, but this is looking weird. At one point on the first day there was a great deal of noise so I looked out and it was 2 guys carrying a chest of drawers up the stairs, so I assumed it was just someone moving into one of the flats. But there are still lots of visitors during the day every day. I don't think it happens at night, or if it does they haven't woken me.

Braggart
Nov 10, 2011

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Red Oktober posted:

Too hard to tell, but if they’ve just moved in a lot of visitors and moving furniture isn’t exactly unusual.

Indeed. My first thought was "oh it's just someone moving in" then the next day "maybe support for a vulnerable person moving in?" It's just the fact that it's gone on for nearly a week that's got me wondering.

I will just see how things develop and try not to assume anything.

Braggart
Nov 10, 2011

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The culture at the Home Office is to meet impossible deportation targets at any cost. This has repeatedly led to them targeting the most vulnerable in staggeringly cruel and duplicitous ways. But of course that also applies to other government departments, and all of it by design. gently caress the Tories.

Deport the victims of trafficking so they can be re-trafficked and we can deport them again woo! :toot:

Braggart fucked around with this message at 08:05 on Oct 15, 2019

Braggart
Nov 10, 2011

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And of course it leads to marginalised people understandably having no faith in or trust for authority figures and offers of aid, which makes it a lot harder to help them. And of course chronically underfunding services leads to burnout among the people who are trying to help as part of those services, so we end up with even fewer of them. gently caress the Tories into oblivion.

Braggart
Nov 10, 2011

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The Home Office is literally just trawling for people they could theoretically deport and giving it a go, aren't they?

Braggart
Nov 10, 2011

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Flayer posted:

Probably given some ridiculous target by the government and this is the only way they have any hope of getting close to it.

Bodes well for a Tory Brexit. You know there's someone salivating at the chance to do this to EU citizens too.

Braggart
Nov 10, 2011

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That Italian Guy posted:

Poor PM, forced to do something by the bully Parliament. He should be able to do whatever he wants, otherwise it's just browbeating, really.

This would all be much simpler if everyone just did what Boris says. Perhaps we could create a new position for him to enable this? 'World King' has a nice ring to it, don't you think?

Braggart
Nov 10, 2011

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quote:

Documents obtained by the Guardian raise questions about how governments should best manage the perceived potential conflicts of interest generated by donations from business figures to political parties.

Well, the Tory answer to that question is "don't"

Braggart
Nov 10, 2011

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Tesseraction posted:

*starts humming the proclaimers*

ohhh i would wank 500 hours
and i
would wank 500 more

just to be the man
who wanked 1000 hours
to revenge porn
da da da da (da da da da)

When I'm jerkin'
Yeah I know I'm gonna be
I'm gonna be the man who's jerkin' it to you

Braggart
Nov 10, 2011

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I doubt it. I wouldn't be surprised if Morgan is on board with this for the attention and to manufacture something for him to complain about. He's a publicity hound above all else, and his one apparent skill is to say and do things that get people yelling at him. He's a professional troll and he's paid very handsomely for it. And, surprise surprise, a person who gets their giggles trolling people is a lovely person with lovely opinions.

Braggart
Nov 10, 2011

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chestnut santabag posted:

Yup, their policy now is unequivocal revocation even though they had also been calling for a referendum on EU membership in the first place. Previously they had been calling for a people's vote while saying they would just ignore if leave won again. Putting the democrat in liberal democrats.

It's tough out there for a politician with no principles. People keep bringing up things you've said and done, as if any of those matter now. Tell me what you want me to say and I'll say it! (And do whatever I want instead.)

Braggart
Nov 10, 2011

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The President also had some folding chairs brought in in case the family or Ms Sacoolas wanted to hit each other.

Braggart
Nov 10, 2011

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It's okay that I don't believe the things I'm arguing! That's how we always did it in debate club at Eton!

Braggart
Nov 10, 2011

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Guavanaut posted:

you can wank your spirit out.

Well, I'm generally pretty tired after excessive masturbation

Braggart
Nov 10, 2011

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OwlFancier posted:

That's what the lumpy bits are, that's your spirit, spirit is stored in the balls.

One day when I was a boy my spirit dropped.

Braggart
Nov 10, 2011

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Fedule posted:

Friends, I have breaking news about a certain much-vaunted government endeavour that was promised a long time ago but has been repeatedly delayed, much to the embarrassment of its government proponents.

I speak of course of the great porn firewall, which is now dead, like, for real this time, not just delayed again.

"The project suffered from technical and legal issues."

Yeah, like being impossible, which we knew from the start :D

Braggart
Nov 10, 2011

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forkboy84 posted:

Boris brings back a deal saying we'll have to murder every first born child, but there will be a referendum on it so Jo backs it.

The deal narrowly wins the referendum after the fash and the press go all in on turning 2nd, 3rd borns etc against firstborns. Labour blamed.

Braggart
Nov 10, 2011

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Guavanaut posted:

One interesting case is that copying a book by hand is generally always exempt. But like, a giant pain.

Those drat monks pirating classic works caused the dark ages IMO. They ruined the vellum industry!

Braggart
Nov 10, 2011

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That Italian Guy posted:

You wouldn't hand copy a CAR!

Well I mean someone did.

Braggart
Nov 10, 2011

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Labour should propose an amendment whereby the deal is put to a referendum, and also Lib Dem MPs must switch careers with Westminster cleaners. Also the Tories. And some of Labour. Most of the House, really.

Braggart
Nov 10, 2011

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Barry Foster posted:

V.late but hail to the new idiot king

Please retain CB's casual and arbitrary brutality, please do it more consistently

But not to me

Agreed! Please eat other people's faces and not mine ty :)

Braggart
Nov 10, 2011

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Jaeluni Asjil posted:

No I don't support the beatings up.


It's just generalized anger. The sort of anger you get when, say, you're hourly paid and the tube is busting with people and you try to get on anyway and some twat tries to stop you getting on when it's 15 mins to the next train and you just know that will be just as full and you seriously cannot afford to be 30 mins late for work because (a) you lose that pay and (b) the company you're working for will tell the agency you are late and unbook you and lose you further work.

Yeah, I was thinking along the same lines. It is not okay that the crowd beat up the demonstrators, but it's not exactly unpredictable. But rather than focus blame on the protestors who nudged the pot over the boiling point, I would consider why it's on permanent simmer in the first place*. Why are these commuters so miserable, stressed and paranoid all of the time that this is all it takes for them to start dispensing mob justice? I'd argue that it's because they know they're powerless to do anything about this commute that's making them miserable and that in itself is alienating and psychologically destructive. Then some wanker comes along and makes it even worse but hey, I can do something about this! And so the rage at every aspect of their commute becomes focussed on 2 poor idiots holding an unwise protest instead of the elites who treat everyone like cattle. So I would mostly blame the elites, who do not care how the system affects anyone else as long it works for them.

It's weird how I keep coming to that conclusion.


*I'm afraid I couldn't think of a way to get boots into my analogy

Braggart
Nov 10, 2011

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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-50074585

Council tenants win 'segregated' garden rule fight


get hosed, rich people

Oh wow, I remember when that development was in the news because they'd started the action. loving awesome that they won. The child mentioned in the article is heavily disabled. What kind of oval office do you have to be to take a garden away from them?

Braggart
Nov 10, 2011

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Ukmt discord link in first post has expired. Anyone got a fresh one?

Braggart
Nov 10, 2011

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Cheers :)

Braggart
Nov 10, 2011

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Maybe he's trying to influence search results for "David Cameron pig" ;)

Edit: 166kg is Davey Cameron's preferred porker weight for his activities

Braggart fucked around with this message at 09:28 on Oct 18, 2019

Braggart
Nov 10, 2011

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josh04 posted:

You'll be excited to hear that Britain specifically demanded the opt-out, and until the global crash was the only country where it was significantly in use.

Once again the UK having no say on EU matters would have been better for all EU citizens, including those in the UK.

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Braggart
Nov 10, 2011

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Pissflaps posted:

Farage wants a seat at Westminster. Brexit is his means of getting one. He needs to push Brexit harder than the Tories will, and for the deal to fail, so that he can use that in the general election.

If any deal passes he doesn't get to satisfy the inferiority complex that drives him.

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Thank you for the reminder that the thread is so much better without you :D

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