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Handsome Ralph
Sep 3, 2004

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Absofuckingloutely

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Handsome Ralph
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One of those B-17s that flies around the country just crashed in Hartford.

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Nostalgia4Butts posted:

working a 8 hour shift is probably a lot less intensive than a day running for president


plus the dude is 78


he ain't coming back

Don't tell D&D.

Handsome Ralph
Sep 3, 2004

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I have to remind myself that the internet isn't real life and that the Bernie Stans that are already screaming that they will write in Sanders rather than vote for Warren or any other Dem nominee doesn't mean much but gently caress is it aggravating to watch.

I love Sanders, I voted for him last time and I'm glad that he made it to the national stage talking about more left leaning/socialist policies in this country, but the binders some people put on about his chances or weak spots really grinds my gears.

Like, seeing people unironically state that AOC or Ilhan Omar would be lock candidates following Sanders kind of tells you how deep in the sand some people's heads are. Yes, they're great politicians, but if you think America is going to suddenly elect either of them to the presidency if they were eligible to run, loving lol @ you.

colachute posted:

Warren is going to turn out to be as electable as Hillary Clinton.

You are definitely going to get a lot of the same flavors of bullshit hurled at Warren that was hurled at Clinton, but Clinton was in the public eye for 25+ years and had the baggage to go with it. I don't think it's a lock either way but I don't think her unfavorables will reach the same levels it did for Clinton during the general.

Handsome Ralph
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Crakkerjakk posted:

Depends on what your theory of power is. If it's to keep fighting the same "turn out your base and hope to convince the very small 'centrists' to mostly vote for you" that the Dems have been relying on since '92, no.

If it's "advocate fiercely for policies that are broadly popular with the public and do whatever it takes to meaningfully improve people's lives to turn out the 45% of America that can vote but doesn't," then I think you'd be surprised.

The idea that what the country is looking for is moderation is not supported by the evidence, and the examples upheld ignore the actual reality. Clinton got 43% of the vote in '92 and only won because Perot was in the race. 49% in '96, against Dole, again with Perot as a spoiler. Obama won on '"hope and change" after the fantastically unpopular bush years, and then proceeded to bleed support when he tacked to the center.

If you promise to actually help people, and then once elected actually do so, I think we could see a drastically different political landscape than what the political and media class tell us is possible.

I don't disagree with you. I had the same point of contention with Clinton when she ran in 2016 (Universal healthcare was too hard, so why bother? Obamacare is fine as is! etc etc) because that poo poo didn't inspire people to turn out. However, the idea that AOC or Omar would be able to get the nomination and win a national election because they are insanely popular within their districts because of their outspoken progressive/leftist beliefs is ignoring a lot of realities and history in this country. It's also stupid to pretend that Warren or other Dem candidates are incapable of offering the same kind of message. People who are already talking up Warren as Clinton 2.0 are conveniently ignoring the difference in messaging and tone between the two. You don't have to like Warren but pretending she's offering the same centrist message that Clinton did is being willfully ignorant at best and intentionally dishonest at worst.

One day? Yeah, I hope that we can elect someone like AOC or Omar or people like them, but for now, it's going to be a loving grind and a struggle no matter who the Dem candidate ends up being. I'd rather make incremental gains in hopes that we can do something better next election than sit on my rear end.

Shorter summary,
https://twitter.com/tbogg/status/1036415161102360576

Crakkerjakk posted:

She's not, she's one of the better senators, but that's a low bar to clear in many cases. If you want a detailed breakdown of why she's not that great (with sources) read this:

https://medium.com/@moon_bat/elizabeth-warren-isnt-your-friend-9a3915ec2ee4

I've read this, and while it makes some valid points of concern about Warren, it also makes a lot of bad faith arguments and takes a ton of poo poo out of context to run with the "SHE'S ACTUALLY A CORPORTIST SHILL!!!" narrative that really didn't surface till a few months ago. Conveniently right around the same time she started pacing and out performing Sanders in polling.

Warren isn't perfect. Neither is Bernie. Anyone telling you otherwise is a loving moron.

Handsome Ralph
Sep 3, 2004

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Crakkerjakk posted:

I don't think Warren is Clinton 2.0. I think she's (probably) Obama 2.0, with less charisma and a worse personal history. She might surprise me if she gets the presidency, we'll see (or not).

And yeah, no one's perfect. But the point of a primary is to pick the best candidate, not the perfect candidate. And for what I think needs to be done to un-gently caress this country (economically and politically) from the absolute trainwreck we've been enduring since about 1970 and try to mitigate the harm from the coming global climate catastrophe, there is one better candidate than Warren, and it's not close which is better in that regard.

That's fair (Obama 2.0), though like you said, we'll see one way or another.

And I agree with you on the point of the primary. My aggravation is less with people stanning for one candidate or another and more with people being willfully disingenuous in their criticisms while also intentionally ignoring their own candidates problem areas, or putting their heads into the sand whenever things don't pan out the way they want them to.

Handsome Ralph
Sep 3, 2004

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WAR CRIME SYNDICAT posted:

Unfortunately there's a non zero chance chuds will believe it and throw it out as just another reason to dislike her. But those aren't people who apply critical thinking anyway so :shrug:

They'll believe it and then conveniently forget about it a week later when the whole thing inevitably falls apart.

Handsome Ralph fucked around with this message at 01:31 on Oct 3, 2019

Handsome Ralph
Sep 3, 2004

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So wait, was the IG trolling congress or was he showing up with documents to show the lengths Trump, Pampeo, etc. are going to discredit things?

Handsome Ralph
Sep 3, 2004

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Okay, it makes sense now. I saw Raskin earlier and thought he was saying that the IG was trying to sell them a load of poo poo. I get that he was showing them the files to discredit the smears before they happened.

Handsome Ralph
Sep 3, 2004

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https://twitter.com/willsommer/status/1179823638306050053

:thunk:

Handsome Ralph
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Hyrax Attack! posted:

Agreed, the everyone rightly remembers the early to mid seasons being excellent but either forgets or didn’t watch the show getting downright terrible near the end. Seasons 10 and 11 had a few winners like Church Hopping or Grand Theft Arlen, but we could totally lose 12 & 13. Just try to watch “Lost in MySpace” without becoming sad.

The Myspace episode was terrible but the finale was aces.


Really hoping for a complete series Blu Ray one day.

Handsome Ralph
Sep 3, 2004

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https://twitter.com/MichaelStahlke/status/1179826417476857856

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facialimpediment posted:

By the way, the published texts basically kill off the "no direct evidence!" and "no quid pro quo!" defenses. I'm curious if the reveals will be outright ignored or they will move onto the next dumb argument.

What does your heart tell you?

Handsome Ralph
Sep 3, 2004

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pantslesswithwolves posted:

So it looks like Elizabeth Warren’s Marine/human sex toy was lying about his military service as well:


https://www.thedailybeast.com/jacob-wohls-bogus-warren-accuser-exaggerated-his-military-service-record

Jacob Wohl is starting to make James O’Keefe look subtle and measured by comparison here.

quote:

In the press conference, Whelly said he had served in Afghanistan in 2012 and claimed he was injured in combat but never received a Purple Heart because he didn’t fill out the paperwork.

:thunk:

Handsome Ralph
Sep 3, 2004

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lol

https://twitter.com/TLCplMax/status/1179933436670169088

Handsome Ralph
Sep 3, 2004

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Are we not laughing that Trump is calling for Romney to be impeached? lol.

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Hot Karl Marx posted:

I was gonna post this in the games thread but it's more political than just games:

https://twitter.com/Slasher/status/1181065339230130181?s=19

They've also since banned the two casters for a year and booted the guy from the tournament, and he was stripped of any prize money he might of received.

But hey, Tracer is gay so you can't say Blizzard isn't woke or anything.

facialimpediment posted:

Mattering-level numbers here. The Republican number is particularly interesting and explains why Republican leadership have basically shut up about it.

https://twitter.com/PostPolls/status/1181520863935582208?s=19

Handsome Ralph fucked around with this message at 12:52 on Oct 8, 2019

Handsome Ralph
Sep 3, 2004

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Pretend I posted that clip from The Wire where Maurice Levy yells at D'Angelo to stop writing.

Handsome Ralph
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Coldwar timewarp posted:

The NBC defender has logged on.

That hardly read like a defense of NBC but go off.

https://twitter.com/JenGriffinFNC/status/1181929592254283784

This poo poo with the Kurds is really upsetting me. It's hard to be *as* angry as I am about it without realizing this is like only the 3rd worst loving thing he's done this year. I cannot wait till the motherfucker strokes out but I hope it happens only after he's out on his rear end and whoever comes in next says gently caress it, and tells the family to get hosed when they ask for a state funeral.

Handsome Ralph
Sep 3, 2004

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hobbesmaster posted:

Whenever Trump leaves office it'll be too late to undo the Armenian treatment the Kurds are getting.

jfc, "correcting demographics"

Oh no doubt, and whatever we have coming from this, we absolutely deserve it.

Handsome Ralph
Sep 3, 2004

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https://twitter.com/soulkhan/status/1181993272664891392

Handsome Ralph
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Pro loving click.

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My Spirit Otter posted:

This friendship with GWB shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone who's watched her stand-up. Shes always been pretty pro-torture.

:wow:

Handsome Ralph
Sep 3, 2004

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Nostalgia4Dogges posted:

why would they drive all the way to Dallas for drugs

Who gets shot in a loving weed deal

The driving to Dallas part is the weird part. As is the whole "secret drug kingpin who just testified at a murder trial"

Getting shot over wholesale weight, not so much. It happens.

Handsome Ralph
Sep 3, 2004

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There was a tweet thread when this all first happened and I wish I could find it, but it was some reporter with the theory that the guys who shot him were CIs and they hosed up somehow (hence the getting shot part) and that they'd likely be dead soon enough.

Handsome Ralph
Sep 3, 2004

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Criminal informants.

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Sep 3, 2004

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Oh of course now he shuts the gently caress up.

Handsome Ralph
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Fister Roboto posted:

Tell me more about cancel culture, woman who had to change her name to avoid triggering the president.

:lol: I forgot about that.

Handsome Ralph
Sep 3, 2004

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maffew buildings posted:

Stationed there, confirming it is exactly this to include makes.

OPSEC WIZARD?!?!?!

Handsome Ralph
Sep 3, 2004

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https://twitter.com/ynms79797979/status/1182739022629801986

:(

For all the assholes who got up in arms about Benghazi, where are you now?

Handsome Ralph
Sep 3, 2004

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Okay maybe no one was killed after all?

https://twitter.com/DanLamothe/status/1182742522713559040

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Nostalgia4Butts posted:

im not a runner

like at all



that poo poo blows my mind and that kenyan dude fuckin owns bones

Yeah I run a bunch and this poo poo is blowing my mind as well.

My best mile is like ~7:00 and that's just flat out running suicide pace knowing I'm only running a mile. Running sub 5 min miles for 26.2 miles is loving insane on a number of levels.

Handsome Ralph
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MonkeyWash posted:

Reddit is terrible and chuds are dumb. Maybe don't post white supremacist stuff under an easily identifiable user name?

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/...reddit-screeds/

White supremacists are stupid as gently caress? :monocle:

Handsome Ralph
Sep 3, 2004

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Yeah it's hilarious to watch some of the Never Trump GOP types clutch their pearls over it.

"tHiS iS hOw ThE dEmS lOsE!"

Like they keep saying Dems need to win over white working class males to even have a chance and anyone who has even a basic understanding of voter demos over the last 30 years is loling at that.

Handsome Ralph
Sep 3, 2004

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That dude is giving me the same vibes Kevin Pollack's character does in Casino.

Handsome Ralph
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McNally posted:

I have also asked an admin to write gullible on the ceiling.

:monocle:

Handsome Ralph
Sep 3, 2004

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A second IJN carrier, the Akagi that was sunk during the Battle of Midway has been found.

https://www.apnews.com/f026d20d928143ddadfc3df0f3d36f77

Handsome Ralph
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:

Uh, yes it is. Do you have any idea how precisely that poo poo has to be machined, or what plutonium likes to do while being machined, not to mention how spot-on the explosives have to be to trigger it? Get it wrong and it wont work, full stop.

Pretty much. At most you'd have a dirty bomb and even then, it's debatable how bad it'd be.

Handsome Ralph
Sep 3, 2004

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colachute posted:

They have done this for every story.

Trump says something dumb

People make up stupid excuses and time goes by

People forget what he said

This isn’t the narrative changing, this is their playbook.

Hi. Normally when things like this happens, you're right, it's forgotten within a week because the President shoots diarrhea into a press gaggle or something.

It's been almost six weeks of this story. It's not going away. And it's only getting worse. Polling shows people who usually move on because of some other stupid poo poo are still following it, which surprises me too, but gently caress it, I'll take whatever we can get at this point.

I don't think he's going to be removed by the senate, but it sure as gently caress isn't helping him get reelected.

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Handsome Ralph
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sharknado slashfic posted:

I'm not entirely convinced of this

I didn't say he wouldn't get re-elected, just that it isn't doing him any favors or helping him. He very well could, and that should scare the poo poo out of any rational person.


Personally, I'm leaning towards this take, but it's still a crap shot for another 12 months.

https://cnu.edu/wasoncenter/2019/07/01-2020-election-forecast/

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