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Apparatchik Magnet
Sep 25, 2019

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

eke out posted:

Apparatchik Magnet, fresh off a probation for being a loving transphobe in this thread, has more great takes to share with us.

I bring the fresh breath of baseline human psychology to the fever swamps way out on the bell curve. Consider it a dole of wisdom and common sense to those in intellectual poverty.

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Apparatchik Magnet
Sep 25, 2019

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Doorknob Slobber posted:

So I read Luminous Dead based on this thread gushing about it some months ago and I don't get why. It was kind of neat, I liked it, but the ending and they fell in love happily ever after felt kind of contrived and there were certain plot threads that were just completely left hanging like, were the bodies preserved in tunneler piss or what? and what actually happened to Elias?.

Welcome to the mostly silent majority.

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Apparatchik Magnet
Sep 25, 2019

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

General Battuta posted:

Your hatred of those emotional irrational women is shared by all the silent people who don't post!!!

My boredom and bemusement with those emotional irrational women is at this point shared by quite a few people who have posted. The inner emotional lives of girls rock climbing turned out to be of as much interest and import as a good hair braiding and gossip session, just with a higher body count and budget.

Apparatchik Magnet
Sep 25, 2019

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

sebmojo posted:

Matter. A book about a big piece of matter and about how different things matter.

I think it was about how nothing matters.

Apparatchik Magnet
Sep 25, 2019

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

BurgerQuest posted:

I need more space opera... good or bad?

I've read my way through everything Peter F Hamilton, Alistair Reynolds, Neal Asher, Iain M Banks, Beck Chambers, Peter Watts, James S.A. Corey etc have written, in the last year or two.

Any recommendations for other works with some scale and half-compelling characters? Perhaps a few truly alien species?

Donaldson's Gap series?

Apparatchik Magnet
Sep 25, 2019

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

BurgerQuest posted:

Whoa awesome, almost all recommendations I've never heard of, thank you! Checking them all out now :)

Oh, Empress of Forever by Gladstone is definitely a one book space opera. No weird aliens per se, but alien adjacent creatures, entities, and weird far future cultures.

Apparatchik Magnet
Sep 25, 2019

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

tildes posted:

I think I'm getting a bit lost w/ these series. If I haven't read anything by Raymond Feist, what is the first series I should read?

The Riftwar series is:

1. Magician: Apprentice
2. Magician: Master (these two published as one in the UK)
3. Silverthorn
4. A Darkness at Sethanon

Apparatchik Magnet
Sep 25, 2019

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

biracial bear for uncut posted:

I'm a little sympathetic because the kinds of fans that go to conventions deserve it with how loving creepy they are to literally any woman they encounter.

Uh...even those who look like her? I mean I've seen the pictures of your average convention goer and bumped into more marginal specimens in the SF aisle at bookstores, but I still find this hard to imagine. Unless they're just creepy to every living thing, which I suppose is possible.

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Apparatchik Magnet
Sep 25, 2019

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

General Battuta posted:

Tell us more about how hot you need to be to get harassed and stalked

I don't know, I have a hard time getting inside the minds of the mentally ill who do this sort of thing both online and off, I should probably consult someone who can empathize with them.

Apparatchik Magnet
Sep 25, 2019

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Did your experience with this sort of fan harassment change after you put all that weight on? Positively or negatively?

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Apparatchik Magnet
Sep 25, 2019

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Ccs posted:

Is Robin Hobb’s much lauded trilogy about an assassin any better? Or distinct from run of the mill fantasy? I see a lot of praise for her work, to the point that some will say she’s the best author in the genre, but I haven’t read any since they rarely go on sale.

Read something more happy and uplifting, like The Last Policeman trilogy.

Apparatchik Magnet
Sep 25, 2019

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

StrixNebulosa posted:

Did that one ever get a satisfying resolution?

It’s supposed to be 19 books, 15 are published.

Apparatchik Magnet
Sep 25, 2019

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Selachian posted:

The Vlad Taltos series, of course, answers the question of "if elves are so superior to humans, why don't they rule the world?" by having them actually ruling the world.

It and the Phoenix Guards also raise the question of how a population with a lifespan of 2000 years and such low fertility and stovepiped genetic pools survives so many deaths via duels, war, extraterrestrial invasion, and underworld violence every year.

Apparatchik Magnet
Sep 25, 2019

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Bujold/Chalion talk reminds me of a nearly lost memory: is the first rule of The Sharing Knife that no one talks about The Sharing Knife in order to preserve her reputation?

Apparatchik Magnet
Sep 25, 2019

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
https://twitter.com/GuardianAus/status/1379291389213609984?s=20

Apparatchik Magnet
Sep 25, 2019

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

General Battuta posted:

Another odd thing about Snow Crash is YT being 15. Just a choice that has aged (or not aged??) real poorly.

This sort of thing just seems very common in books before the last decade or two. GRRM has Daenerys 13 in AGoT; Ce'Nedra was apparently 15 at the beginning of the Belgariad; the Garrett Files (I'm rereading) has Garrett actively skeeving on 18 year olds when he's 30ish but also noticing in an academic way those a bit younger; in Memory, Sorrow, and Thorn Simeon starts the series at 14, putting Miriamele at 13 or 14 (and later seduced/coerced by a several or many years older noble); and I feel like there have to be plenty of other examples in things that were reasonably popular in the 80s and 90s.

And then there's Piers Anthony.

General Battuta posted:

Maybe it’s all some kind of commentary on the hypersexualization of “young women” and claiming agency over your own sexuality even in coercive power structures, I dunno, I dunno, maybe I’m just having a moral panic, it just skeeves me out.

Moving from fantasy/science fiction to reality, the regrettably recently back in the news "cash me ousside" girl was 14 when she first achieved notoriety.

Apparatchik Magnet fucked around with this message at 23:31 on Apr 7, 2021

Apparatchik Magnet
Sep 25, 2019

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Jaxyon posted:

Yeah pretty much all western culture is super skeevy about sexualizing girls but fantasy in particular is kind of on it's own level.

It's one of those "technically somewhat historical" things that just happens to make it with no commentary or condemnation. Over and over.

Well it’s not just girls, Foucault was pushing abolishment of age of consent to cover the sort of thing he had to go do in North Africa with the locals, the modern motivation of Said’s Orientalism.

As far as non-Western cultures I don’t think Chinese concubinage or modern rural Arab/Afghan adolescent brides (Aisha has much to answer for) count as nonsexualized behavior except under a pretty weird definition.

It’s one of those absolutely historical and current things, like interpersonal violence, that have only recently and imperfectly been pushed back by WEIRD culture.

Apparatchik Magnet
Sep 25, 2019

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

StrixNebulosa posted:

Do not give anyone the benefit of the doubt on this, gently caress anything that sexualizes underage characters.

So 13 and below, if we assume that Italy and Germany aren’t basket cases who can be disregarded.

And 12 and below at the time many of the books in the US were written, if we can consider the laws of a dozen or so states dispositive. We really have had a moral panic, I’m amazed that everyone has moved to 16+ in the last 20 years in the US. I blame the old Olsen twins tracker.

Apparatchik Magnet fucked around with this message at 01:57 on Apr 8, 2021

Apparatchik Magnet
Sep 25, 2019

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

HopperUK posted:

Um, what exactly are you trying to say here?

I’m trying to figure out what “underage” means. Young, ignorant, and generally physically and psychologically repulsive goons probably don’t have a good grasp of normal human sexuality today, in the recent past, and in both their own and similar cultures.

Apparatchik Magnet
Sep 25, 2019

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

HopperUK posted:

No you aren't.

Of course I am. Whether any of these literary examples actually are underage is an uncertain question depending on time, place, and culture.

Are the Hadiths guilty of sexualizing young girls? Very much so if these books are, so we perhaps shouldn’t rush to judgment.

Apparatchik Magnet
Sep 25, 2019

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

HopperUK posted:

Why the gently caress would you bring religious texts into things? We're talking about how fantasy books have a tendency to be loving creepy about very young girls.

There’s at least one well known Muslim fantasy author. If he puts in an homage to Mohammed and Aisha is he being “loving creepy”? Isn’t judging that sort of age difference as a bright line judgment inherently anti-Muslim bigotry or at least shockingly provincial and an example of intellectual colonialism? I expected better of this community.

Apparatchik Magnet fucked around with this message at 02:38 on Apr 8, 2021

Apparatchik Magnet
Sep 25, 2019

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

HopperUK posted:

gently caress you.

I assure, I’m old enough to satisfy the conscience of everyone here.

Apparatchik Magnet
Sep 25, 2019

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

General Battuta posted:

Oh that's the 'women can't be harassed if they're ugly' guy.

No, I was the "it is surprising to me that there are guys desperate or sad enough to hit on ugly women" guy. But clearly some of you were more in tune with that demographic.

Apparatchik Magnet
Sep 25, 2019

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Evil Fluffy posted:

Hi welcome to Something Awful dot com. Please :fuckoff: back to the r/libertarian subreddit or whatever other pit you crawled out of with this hot take.

I don't think it's that hot of a take! You'd expect to find lazy, dumb, and socially maladroit people resent capitalism and seek the solace of socialism and you'd expect ugly unfuckables to resent their hotter and more emotionally mature peers getting it on and seek strangely high legal bars to shut them down out of envy, and it's no mistake that both these trends are popular here on Something Awful dot com.

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Apparatchik Magnet
Sep 25, 2019

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

General Battuta posted:

Are you worried about your activities being shut down, out of envy, by the legal bar of age 18

No, I have a charitable concern about the legal consequences being imposed on minors, doing natural things with other consenting minors, by the new Puritans. Weirdly enough, it's not often the rich white Chad or Becky who get their lives ruined over this stuff when mom or dad catches them!

Elmnt80 posted:

Quit fuckin kids you weirdo

:aatrek:

As a Something Awful mod your odds of projecting and being guilty of this are famously orders of magnitude higher than almost any other category of person, of course.

Apparatchik Magnet fucked around with this message at 03:55 on Apr 8, 2021

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Apparatchik Magnet
Sep 25, 2019

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

StrixNebulosa posted:

May I interrupt? I'm literally sitting here minutes from bed scrolling through books in my kindle wanting some kind of comfort sci-fi. Not fantasy, but sci-fi. There's the thread favorite Murderbot, and Long Way to Angry Planet, but...what else? Bujold kind of fits, kind of doesn't, Cherryh's Foreigner's later books are definitely cozy, and I think it might be time to read more of James White's space hospital series, but it's never a bad time to ask:

Are there good cozy sci-fi novels? Ones with really optimistic themes and good characters doing good things?

I feel like one of the Pern books about the original settling of the planet was like that.

I also have vague memories of a McAfferty series about a psychic woman who launched ships FTL between planets as her job, but I’m pretty sure that also featured a skeezy May-December romance. Women authors were doing it too, I guess.

Apparatchik Magnet fucked around with this message at 04:03 on Apr 8, 2021

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