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Alkabob
May 31, 2011
I would like to speak to the manager about the socialists, please
Squid rain?

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Alkabob
May 31, 2011
I would like to speak to the manager about the socialists, please
Latin who watches the watchmen?

Alkabob
May 31, 2011
I would like to speak to the manager about the socialists, please
Been a while since I took latin, and holy poo poo a racist voight kampf test.

Alkabob
May 31, 2011
I would like to speak to the manager about the socialists, please
I'm calling robots. The servants are almost top of the line robots, but some flaws like horses mistaken for knives leaves some things to be desired.

Alkabob
May 31, 2011
I would like to speak to the manager about the socialists, please

muscles like this! posted:

Kind of interesting to see that there are no cell phones in this world.

There will probably be some emphasis on that and the importance of free flowing instant communication. No cell phones, no internet.

Alkabob
May 31, 2011
I would like to speak to the manager about the socialists, please

LesterGroans posted:

Declared dead. We saw him alive and well in the episode.

It really is a fantastic pilot and all the little background details are intriguing. IMO episodes 3, 5 and 6 are even better than the pilot so I'm excited to see how people react to them.

How do you know 3, 5 and 6 are particularly good?

Alkabob
May 31, 2011
I would like to speak to the manager about the socialists, please
Rewatching first episode. Don Johnson's death may not be what it seems. His quote after the weapons release "it's my funeral," that was sneaky. 7th Cavalry was Custer's unit and responsible for wiping out the Indians, so ethnic cleansing. So going to guess that racism and alt right views are threatening to destabilize the world in some fashion. Given the one racist kid talked about "Redfordations" at the being of the episode, I'm going to guess Redford is a liberal president. That liberalism gained a solid footing after Nixon left office and with 30 years of liberal policies a lot of things can get addressed, things that will piss off people that are fellow travellers with the 7th Cav. Also I'm guessing liberalism is starting to wane and that the President being an older guy but powerful is essentially the last stop gap before some a bunch of stupid racists have their way. So something needs to happen that now takes the focus off race and makes alt right views moot.

In the Watchmen it was the specter of mutually assured destruction, which was offset by the threat of inter-dimensional alien invasions. So now Veidt has something planned that involves Doctor Manhattan, who was the son of a watch maker, hence the title of the play. So perhaps Veidt plans to convince Dr. Manhattan that the only way to protect humanity is to make humanity like a will driven watch. So his robotic servants are the Adam and Eve of a hybrid humanity programmed to be mindless dipshits where conformity is achieved through brainless obedience.

I'll see if the New Frontiersman will publish these findings.

Edit: Listen to the radio right Don Johnson gets killed. They talk about all kinds of liberal policies that these assholes hate and some dystopian Alt Righter mounting a challenge for the White House.

Alkabob fucked around with this message at 03:58 on Oct 21, 2019

Alkabob
May 31, 2011
I would like to speak to the manager about the socialists, please
Oh hell it popped into my head as I went to sleep. The robot servants, the old lithium cancer causing batteries. Veidt is behind making a robotic Dr. Manhattan who is going to come and enforce a get-a-long gang world order. What makes everyone act nice and be constantly afraid? A big blue god that blasts you with cancer. Veidt has to make a robo-cop Manhattan because the real one is so disconnected from humanity he couldn't give two fucks to save it again. But the fun part is perhaps in making robo-Manhattan the real one notices a distortion blocking his sight into the future like the last time, and that causes him to come and correct the problem with less than stellar results. After all nothing ends.

Alkabob
May 31, 2011
I would like to speak to the manager about the socialists, please

Xealot posted:

Yes. It’s a purposefully revisionist narrative.

I assumed the point of the scene was to highlight how delusional and disconnected from reality Veidt has become since the original story. He’s still the same amoral bastard who’ll kill his underlings for minor reasons, but now he’s doing it purely to serve his own vanity. This play is some odd attempt to turn Dr. Manhattan’s story into some classical mythos he controls and understands, but he’s just doing it for himself. It’s very strange.

I will have a good chuckle if Veidt is nothing more than a red herring this season.

Alkabob
May 31, 2011
I would like to speak to the manager about the socialists, please
So pretty sure Laurie would get pulled off the case for pulling that poo poo with the bomber.

Alkabob
May 31, 2011
I would like to speak to the manager about the socialists, please
So pretty sure Veidt is nuts, the game waren is a Veidt clone meant to keep him under control because Veidt knows he would just get crazier. Plus Veidt wanted someone of equal intelligence to occasionally spar with.

Alkabob
May 31, 2011
I would like to speak to the manager about the socialists, please

SpiderHyphenMan posted:

I disagree. I thought it was perfectly audacious.
"We're never gonna be able to exhume him now."

I have a feeling Laurie is actually worse than Ozymandias at this point, she just hasn't a chance to truly prove it.

Alkabob
May 31, 2011
I would like to speak to the manager about the socialists, please

SpiderHyphenMan posted:

That would be pretty interesting because right now Laurie's the closest thing this show has to a moral center.

Laurie is wildly immoral. Shooting a fleeing suspect in the back intending to kill him because of her beef with Veidt, her involvement in covering up Veidt's crime, shooting the 7th Cav bomber despite the danger of the suicide vest going off, banging her subordinate, and of course lying to herself that she is better than a vigilante. Her mask is an FBI agent and she gets to hide behind law and order while quietly carrying out her own brand of justice.

Alkabob
May 31, 2011
I would like to speak to the manager about the socialists, please
Macro thought, Watchmen is merely about villains trying to impose their world view on everyone else. Essentially there are no heroes just idiots thinking they can run the world better than the next person.

Alkabob
May 31, 2011
I would like to speak to the manager about the socialists, please

AwkwardKnob posted:

Also, the notion that there are phone booths where people can basically beam prayers to Dr Manhattan on Mars is kind of unsettling and interesting all at once.

Who says they even go to Mars?

Here is a thought Veidt takes a knee but has a successor in the person who "bought" his company to carry out his next plan. Trieu is the one looking out for Will the wheelchair guy who is following some game plan, I doubt he cares much for society so he is probably down for some bloodshed if it leads to retribution. The SUV that got dropped on Laurie is the one that belonged to Angela that got lifted away by a ship. So the Doctor Manhattan confession booths are just a way to pick up information from people. Probably the type of people that are burdened with looking after the world and the occasional sad sack. In the process of hearing Laurie's whale song of loneliness they decided to drop the car right in front of her to knock her off her game. Rather than thinking about the conspiracy she is thinking about a giant blue dick on Mars.

Alkabob
May 31, 2011
I would like to speak to the manager about the socialists, please
So what if Rorschach is the game warden?

Alkabob
May 31, 2011
I would like to speak to the manager about the socialists, please
If he has tech to speed up aging he has the ability to get off the planet.

Alkabob
May 31, 2011
I would like to speak to the manager about the socialists, please

Supreme Allah posted:

I'm sure there's failsafes

Tachyons etc

Was going to say his rough night was probably going to do more fuckery and Dr. Manhattan showed up and probably said something that triggered Veidt.

Alkabob
May 31, 2011
I would like to speak to the manager about the socialists, please
So lived long enough to see himself become the villain.

Alkabob
May 31, 2011
I would like to speak to the manager about the socialists, please
So now I have the feeling that giant clock tower is a giant strobe light. Maybe it will go "Liberals kill conservatives, conservatives kill yourselves," or "White people game over, go jump off a bridge." I'm hoping its the first one and done in a way where the strobe goes over a Fox style news cast for the commentary conservatives will do anything Fox tells them. Again nothing new but kinda funny and sinister at the same time.

Alkabob
May 31, 2011
I would like to speak to the manager about the socialists, please

SpiderHyphenMan posted:

God am I glad you're not writing this.

Oh yeah no way would I have come up with anything this good, which is why I didn't become a script writer. Dipshit.

Alkabob
May 31, 2011
I would like to speak to the manager about the socialists, please

Sleeveless posted:

Glad you agree your posts are worthless trash, please remember that any time you ever feel tempted to smash the Submit Reply button in the future. Dipshit.

Oh lol.

Alkabob
May 31, 2011
I would like to speak to the manager about the socialists, please
Seems weird Dr. Manhattan would regain a sense of humanity then to simply lose it again. I don't think his prison for Veidt was his attempt at life. I think he made it knowing it would hold him just long enough that it no longer mattered.

Alkabob
May 31, 2011
I would like to speak to the manager about the socialists, please
So the judge a younger Adrian Veidt clone? That pig jury wackiness is a Veidt move.

Also a machine to depower Dr. Manhattan?

Edit: Oh great a Dr. Redneck.

Alkabob fucked around with this message at 03:40 on Dec 2, 2019

Alkabob
May 31, 2011
I would like to speak to the manager about the socialists, please
This show is amazing and half the fun is the reactions in the thread and people piecing things out.

Alkabob
May 31, 2011
I would like to speak to the manager about the socialists, please
Oh come on, dog pile with the grandma death.

Alkabob
May 31, 2011
I would like to speak to the manager about the socialists, please

Arist posted:

WHAT THE gently caress :tviv:

Not empty quoting.

Alkabob
May 31, 2011
I would like to speak to the manager about the socialists, please
Someone said Veidt would be dipped in gold because of the stupid villagers. What if him not offering a defense was all part of the plan. Preserved in gold he can be transported back to Earth, DNA retrieved whatever left of his brain is used to make nostalgia.

Alkabob
May 31, 2011
I would like to speak to the manager about the socialists, please

Antifa Turkeesian posted:

Why did Trieu act like Angela wouldn’t already know who Dr. Manhattan is? Does she not know that Angela knows? Does she think it’s somebody else?

Probably while jacked up on that elephant IV drip they scanned her memories. The elephant brain being sufficient enough as a storage space and whatever. After all Will Reeves said she would hate him, so he placed the drugs there for her to intentionally take. They milk her brain for memories of Dr. Manhattan because they know at some point she met him in Vietnam but the trail ran cold. Then the surprise is that Dr. Manhattan did something to inhabit a host body he made, whack out his power to see into the future so he could function like a normal rear end in a top hat and as a result could never see any of this coming.

I will consider it poor writing on the show's part if they do kill or depower Dr. Manhattan.

Alkabob
May 31, 2011
I would like to speak to the manager about the socialists, please
Dr. Manhattan sounds pleasant and happy, this isn't Dr. Manhattan.

Alkabob
May 31, 2011
I would like to speak to the manager about the socialists, please

hobbesmaster posted:

God seemed pretty happy after creating the garden of Eden and then one piece of fruit later bam it’s Old Testament time

He was none too thrilled that people wanted to be like him. So if it follows in the show Manhattan is going to be explosively pissed when Keene tries to make himself a proverbial god.

Alkabob
May 31, 2011
I would like to speak to the manager about the socialists, please
Basically they think the future is set because they just don't kick hard enough of the baseboard of the event hard enough to alter it.

Alkabob
May 31, 2011
I would like to speak to the manager about the socialists, please
So whoever wanted to see his dong, Merry loving Christmas.

Alkabob
May 31, 2011
I would like to speak to the manager about the socialists, please
So Adrian wanted to go. Hahahaha. Dumbass.

Alkabob
May 31, 2011
I would like to speak to the manager about the socialists, please

barkbell posted:

the manhattan relationship with angela isnt convincing when taking into account the end of the comic

Oh hell Regina King is awesome with the skeptic routine.

Alkabob
May 31, 2011
I would like to speak to the manager about the socialists, please
Cake makes Veidt Manhattan.

Edit: Okay nevermind its a loving horse shoe oh holy poo poo he planned this.

Alkabob
May 31, 2011
I would like to speak to the manager about the socialists, please

Happy Noodle Boy posted:

The cake has an old school Filing thing to escape. Please let it be the old school escape plan.

Horseshoe

Alkabob
May 31, 2011
I would like to speak to the manager about the socialists, please
Watching this episode made me want to create a D&D style game that involves up to 8 players. It would be called "the gods of annoying poo poo." Each player has one power and one power only and then proceed to be largely useless and the cause of petty annoyances. Their relationship with the world is largely parasitic, they need believers to exist and keep them from being bored aside from loving with each other. Much like Veidt and Manhattan.

Alkabob
May 31, 2011
I would like to speak to the manager about the socialists, please
Well this got really interesting.

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Alkabob
May 31, 2011
I would like to speak to the manager about the socialists, please

Happy Noodle Boy posted:

So Trieu is letting the 7K do their thing and then hijack the process?

Would be hilarious if Veidt stole that power from his daughter and its all some master plan because Ozymandias doesn't want his works to crumble or have an inheritor.

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