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R.D. Mangles posted:Ohio State/Northwestern has been moved to BTN due to Northwestern Too explicit for standard cable
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Oct 16, 2019 22:03
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Ohio State vs. Northwestern was not on BTN already? I thought the whole point of these bullshit Friday games was content for BTN? What the hell channel is baseball on, I thought it was on TBS or something?
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Oct 16, 2019 22:25
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Fifty Three posted:https://twitter.com/SamfordFootball/status/1181297408090750977 That movie rules. As does his hat with the Iroquois flag on it.
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Spacemonkey57 posted:Ohio State vs. Northwestern was not on BTN already? I thought the whole point of these bullshit Friday games was content for BTN? What the hell channel is baseball on, I thought it was on TBS or something? TBS and FS1 split the post-season, alternating leagues every other year. NL was TBS, AL is FS1.
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Oct 16, 2019 22:57
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Dango Bango posted:They had to move it because they couldn't preempt WWE Smackdown on Fox also next week the world series will force smackdown to move to fs1 so screwed up
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Oct 16, 2019 22:59
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Pat Fitzgerald gonna pull something loving voodoo coaching magic you just watch and see
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Just-In-Timeberlake posted:Pat Fitzgerald gonna pull something loving voodoo coaching magic you just watch and see 
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Just-In-Timeberlake posted:Pat Fitzgerald gonna pull something loving voodoo coaching magic you just watch and see northwestern already had their inexplicable good game against a good team when they scored 15 on Wisconsin
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Oct 16, 2019 23:30
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MourningView posted:He was the reason they didn't hire him! Yeah that's the problem! He made a huge mistake.
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Oct 16, 2019 23:45
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DC Murderverse posted:northwestern already had their inexplicable good game against a good team when they scored 15 on Wisconsin Wisconsin game doesn't count because they unleash their Wisconsin Kryptonite every year, especially at their home field
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Oct 17, 2019 00:12
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DC Murderverse posted:northwestern already had their inexplicable good game against a good team when they scored 15 on Wisconsin If that game was in Evanston we lose, guaranteed. That field is some jinx poo poo.
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Oct 17, 2019 04:02
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lmao at wisconsin fans being shook by ryan field when it's at least 60-40 wisconsin fans, the jinx is that northwestern knows how to shut down a running game with a poo poo quarterback because they do it every goddamn day at practice.
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Oct 17, 2019 04:53
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R.D. Mangles posted:lmao at wisconsin fans being shook by ryan field when it's at least 60-40 wisconsin fans, the jinx is that northwestern knows how to shut down a running game with a poo poo quarterback because they do it every goddamn day at practice. NW doesn't have a running game. Or really any game.
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Oct 17, 2019 12:05
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I forgot about the Friday night game. What a stupid idea that needs to never happen again.
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DC Murderverse posted:northwestern already had their inexplicable good game against a good team when they scored 15 on Wisconsin The most anybody has scored on Wisconsin this year!
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Oct 17, 2019 14:29
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Banner Society's Watch Grid for the week:   Pretty bad week!
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I wanna see ya boy Will Muschamp shock the conference again and beat Florida. I know it ain’t happening, but I’ll be watching for it anyway.
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PostNouveau posted:Banner Society's Watch Grid for the week: i see a game worth watching at pretty much every major timeslot, it’s not like a banner week but entertaining football is certainly reasonable
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Declan MacManus posted:i see a game worth watching at pretty much every major timeslot, it’s not like a banner week but entertaining football is certainly reasonable Yeah, I shouldn't compare every week to last week
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R.D. Mangles posted:lmao at wisconsin fans being shook by ryan field when it's at least 60-40 wisconsin fans, the jinx is that northwestern knows how to shut down a running game with a poo poo quarterback because they do it every goddamn day at practice. Works been discussing who you'd bet on if you had to, Illinois over Wisconsin or northwestern over Ohio State Consensus is northwestern keeping everything stuck in the mud and winning on and a fluke fumble
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Fluffdaddy posted:I wanna see ya boy Will Muschamp shock the conference again and beat Florida. I know it ain’t happening, but I’ll be watching for it anyway. it could happen. It’s in Columbia, noon start... I think it will be super clown ball and end with a weird score like 19-15.
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Oct 17, 2019 17:35
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I think OSU might be a lot less prone to getting mucked up now that Urban isn't there to mash the QB dive button over and over whenever he feels nervous about a game.
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Oct 17, 2019 18:02
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Ohio State isn't losing to anyone before getting to the playoffs. I'd be surprised if anyone even came within 14 points, except maybe Wisconsin.
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Oct 17, 2019 18:50
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Oct 17, 2019 19:29
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Northwestern's garbage offense worked for a long time because they stumbled into Justin Jackson who you could make a case for as the best player in school history and excelled at dodging guys behind the line of scrimmage for a 3 yard gain enough to keep the defense (which has been very good under Fitzgerald) off the field. Without that and with basically no functioning quarterback, it's a train wreck. Defense is still good enough to win games in the West but they have literally one of the worst offenses in all of college football.
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MourningView posted:I think OSU might be a lot less prone to getting mucked up now that Urban isn't there to mash the QB dive button over and over whenever he feels nervous about a game. Fields would be dead by now if Urban were still here. For as revolutionary as Utah/Florida Meyer was always perceived (or even early OSU Meyer), people really underestimated how conservative of an offense he actually ran. Like, watching him try to work with pocket QBs during his final years at Florida and OSU just proves that he cannot design a run game that doesn't orient around at least the option. We functionally ran the Single-Wing whenever a game was close because Urban's weird lizard brain equates close games with "we'll run the QB because he has an extra blocker and numbers" even when those QBs are JT Barrett, Cardale Jones, and Dwayne Haskins whose running ranges from "Meh" to "C3P0" and the ENTIRE stadium knows it's coming. The infamous Michigan State in driving rain game from 2015 was the platonic example of it, because he gave Zeke like 10 carries and Barrett 25 because "extra blockers" and probably cost that team a title as a result. He just can't get over the concept of getting an extra blocker, even if misdirection or surprise and using a better athlete would create more potential upside on the play. It works super well when you have like Braxton Miller or Tim Tebow doing freakish running things and getting into plus-yardage faster with speed or size, but my god is it brutal and stupid when you're using a guy like JT Barrett post-ankle surgery who runs like a 4.8 and isn't particularly shifty or powerful. Like, we used to give Tressel poo poo for everything being about ball control, field position, and fundamentals, but the real difference between Urban and Tressel was just a matter of recruiting and which runner was the security blanket. Tressel's recruiting lagged Meyer's and relied too much on RBs being healthy for 30-35 touches a game when our QB play/receivers were bad. Meyer's recruiting owned but frequently ignored his all-world skill talent in favor of the slowest non-lineman on the field being the one to run with the ball most often because you're too worried about the time it'll take the QB to get the ball out. It sort of minimizes the potential of the offense when everything is about making that skill talent block 90% of the time and grinding out short yardage using your RB as a fulcrum/quasi-FB.The string of WRs to come through Columbus under Urban was insane, but short of a Herman/Day caliber playcaller, he'll always regress into bad QB running and the screen/cross game and enable the worst tendencies of a Tim Beck type coordinator. It's exactly what happened when he had Addazio running things in Gainesville. It's the Lou Holtz in him that just sees passing as too risky unless it's the quick game. Day on the other hand appears to have no real commitment to any play so far beyond, "lol calling mesh again" which is refreshing since stopping Mesh requires significantly more execution out of a defense than stopping QB Power/Dive/Counter. Urban used to build gameplans around the base offense being the QB run/option and refused to accept that teams could actually have run fits that made that work which usually equated to a hilarious loss every year against VT/Sparty/Iowa when a team got the run fits correct and could get just enough points to pull it out. Day's gameplanning seems to vary more week-to-week and cycles more stuff through based on the opponent, which in my mind says the loss will eventually come when we're too aggressive against a team we shouldn't be and the turnover bug hits.
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Yeah the big loss with Urban is as a program builder/recruiter and probably won't show up for a year or two if it ever does (the current QB room beyond Fields is, uh, concerning). Purely as a gameday coach it's not really a huge loss, Day is a way better offensive tactician. Urban deserves credit for being one of the first people to recognize the potential of the read option but he wasn't really some brilliant offensive mind beyond that, he was just really really really good at all the CEO-type stuff.
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They have some highly rated QB recruits coming in over the next couple of years. They may not be Justin Fields, but not many will be.
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What exactly is mesh Also I still think illinois has less of a chance against Wisconsin than northwestern with their two foot tall grass vs Ohio State
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Regnevelc posted:They have some highly rated QB recruits coming in over the next couple of years. At least you think so. For all we know he might set up shop in Los Angeles and steal all of your recruits and good assistants.
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LLCoolJD posted:At least you think so. For all we know he might set up shop in Los Angeles and steal all of your recruits and good assistants. I don't think Urban Meyer and Ryan Day are going to target the same type of QB. Assistants may be an issue I'd imagine for Day, but it's not like there isn't a shortage of assistants who wouldn't want Ohio State on their resume.
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MourningView posted:Yeah the big loss with Urban is as a program builder/recruiter and probably won't show up for a year or two if it ever does (the current QB room beyond Fields is, uh, concerning). Purely as a gameday coach it's not really a huge loss, Day is a way better offensive tactician. Urban deserves credit for being one of the first people to recognize the potential of the read option but he wasn't really some brilliant offensive mind beyond that, he was just really really really good at all the CEO-type stuff. Yeah it’s pretty well-work territory that Gregg Brandon, Mike Sanford and Dan Mullen pretty much constructed that offense. But Meyer will forever get the credit. He coached scared in 2009 with an all-timer of a team and it showed in all the ways y’all are discussing. Dudes probably a top-5 or -10 coach all time but he has flaws for sure.
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mastershakeman posted:What exactly is mesh
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Coco13 posted:Full dissection is here, but the basic concept is two receivers on opposite sides of the formation run to each other, usually around 5 yards from the line of scrimmage. Ideally, the receivers are so close they can low-five. It's creates a lot of traffic in an already heavily populated area for the defense to sort though. Ohhhh, so it's a euphemism for offensive pass interference
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mastershakeman posted:What exactly is mesh like 75% of Mike Leach's offense
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PostNouveau posted:Ohhhh, so it's a euphemism for offensive pass interference Nah it’s not a pick play or anything like that. Defenders have to risk running into their line or jamming up linebackers.
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Regnevelc posted:They have some highly rated QB recruits coming in over the next couple of years. Oklahoma has proved that you can win with a constant stream of QB transfers.
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Regnevelc posted:I don't think Urban Meyer and Ryan Day are going to target the same type of QB. Day reeeeally prefers passers with mobility to scramble bros. Fields is anomalous in terms of tool set, but Jack Miller has good hype around him; the second guy they’re trying to pull out of Cali is another elite 11 guy; their 2021 guy is a top 2-4 recruit at the position and based out of PA. Urban is a hell of a goddamn recruiter, but Day has been the guy personally recruiting these QBs for the past few years and that’s going to be a tough mountain for anyone to climb with his track record right now, especially since USC’s big feeders are going to be west coast where it’s always been a lot harder for him to pull guys before. Meanwhile, Urban’s platonic ideal of a qb is basically just a guy who can endlessly get 4 yards per play while making the proper faces. Also, it’s reeeeally not like Urban was making good assistant hires at the end. Like, he brought in Day and Studrawa....and also Schiano and Billy Davis. He holds on to shitbirds like Zach Smith. Dude was weirdly protective of some bad hires to a fault. This could all go by the wayside, but Day may pull this out off of sheer inertia from maximizing what was on campus until it starts replicating itself again.
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