NFL Week 6 Aftermath Thread: Your best offense is full Chubb.

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Finger Prince: Jan 5, 2007

If the Browns ran every play with Chubb and never ever passed the ball, I think they win that game. Kitchen's time-out/challenge/penalty/whatever the gently caress that was was terrible decision making. If he'd just let the next play run, they had an easy touchdown.
I figured this was a trap game for Seattle, so I'm glad they came out with the win, but the run defense was :stare:

# ? Oct 13, 2019 22:30

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# ? May 2, 2024 00:16

The Puppy Bowl: Jan 31, 2013; A dog, in the house.

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Fuuuuuuucck. I was wondering why Justin Bethel was on the field.

# ? Oct 13, 2019 22:30

Grittybeard: Mar 29, 2010; Bad, very bad!

Blitz7x posted:

Remember when KC downgrading on defensive talent and grabbing a worse DC was supposed to help them fix the defense

I'm still not sure this is definitively the case. I mean it is, but going on what we knew at the time I'm not sure. I'm also not sure (especially in Ford's case) they'd be any better if they'd kept everything the same. It's mainly a matter of firing a bad DC and hiring another bad DC and changing the roster.

Obviously they should have kept one of Ford or Houston, but getting rid of Berry for Mathieu is an upgrade just based on Mathieu playing. The biggest problem is Frank Clark being trash after being very good, which would have been hard to see coming and is the worst bet Brett Veach has made until proven otherwise.

It appears that the worst thing long term about all this will be the Chiefs will either let Chris Jones walk or be tying up 200 million in a bad defensive line. Letting him walk makes sense when you put it like that, but he's by far the best defensive player the Chiefs have. Oh and he'll be hobbled for quite a while.

# ? Oct 13, 2019 22:35

Durandal1707: Oct 11, 2013

And the thing about Jones is that, as good of a pass rusher as he is, he's flat out awful as a run defender. And you kinda need a DT to be able to do things against the run.

that being said I don't think Spags is that much worse a DC than Sutton was, if at all. The Chiefs just kind of stink all around on D and trading for Clark was a huge mistake.

# ? Oct 13, 2019 22:37

LiquidFriend: Apr 5, 2005

I think at this point, you gotta look at Andy Reid.

He's a good coach, but I don't think he's putting out his best effort this year. The Chiefs had the showings of a not spectacular, but at least a solid enough Defensive unit to get forward.

This Defense has gone in reverse instead and the Offense is right along with them. It's easy to blame Spagnuolo, and he's not good, but poo poo maybe look at the guy that's doing a 4:1 pass run ratio with a QB that has a gimpy ankle.

This isn't a fire Andy Reid post, but heck I really don't know what they're going to do.

# ? Oct 13, 2019 22:47

AndrewP: Apr 21, 2010

Finger Prince posted:

If the Browns ran every play with Chubb and never ever passed the ball, I think they win that game.

Okay this does bode well for the Ravens

# ? Oct 13, 2019 22:48

Lessail: Apr 1, 2011; tell me how vgk aren't playing like shit again

p.s. help my grapes are so sour!

LiquidFriend posted:

I think at this point, you gotta look at Andy Reid.

He's a good coach, but I don't think he's putting out his best effort this year. The Chiefs had the showings of a not spectacular, but at least a solid enough Defensive unit to get forward.

This Defense has gone in reverse instead and the Offense is right along with them. It's easy to blame Spagnuolo, and he's not good, but poo poo maybe look at the guy that's doing a 4:1 pass run ratio with a QB that has a gimpy ankle.

This isn't a fire Andy Reid post, but heck I really don't know what they're going to do.

kc blew their one chance to get past the nfl-pats conspiracy. they aren't the first, they won't be the last.

# ? Oct 13, 2019 22:52

fknlo: Jul 6, 2009; Fun Shoe

LiquidFriend posted:

I think at this point, you gotta look at Andy Reid.

He's a good coach, but I don't think he's putting out his best effort this year. The Chiefs had the showings of a not spectacular, but at least a solid enough Defensive unit to get forward.

This Defense has gone in reverse instead and the Offense is right along with them. It's easy to blame Spagnuolo, and he's not good, but poo poo maybe look at the guy that's doing a 4:1 pass run ratio with a QB that has a gimpy ankle.

This isn't a fire Andy Reid post, but heck I really don't know what they're going to do.

It's not like we have any real running game to speak of, but that still doesn't make what's going on while Mahomes is hurt alright. If we lose to the Broncos we should sit Mahomes until he's healthy as it's becoming clear that we can't win games while he isn't and he's just going to end up actually hurt behind that line. That's obviously never going to happen though, so I guess start firing people?

# ? Oct 13, 2019 22:56

sweet thursday: Sep 16, 2012

Blitz7x posted:

Remember when KC downgrading on defensive talent and grabbing a worse DC was supposed to help them fix the defense

I do lol

Also Cowboys are broken which is also an lol

# ? Oct 13, 2019 22:57

chilihead: Nov 5, 2010; Is this real life, or is this fantasy?

The NFC east is hot garbage, Florida football is failing miserably on all levels and the Atlanta curse is kicking in hardcore.
The pessimist in me is winning.

# ? Oct 13, 2019 22:58

chilihead: Nov 5, 2010; Is this real life, or is this fantasy?

LiquidFriend posted:

I think at this point, you gotta look at Andy Reid.

He's a good coach, but I don't think he's putting out his best effort this year. The Chiefs had the showings of a not spectacular, but at least a solid enough Defensive unit to get forward.

This Defense has gone in reverse instead and the Offense is right along with them. It's easy to blame Spagnuolo, and he's not good, but poo poo maybe look at the guy that's doing a 4:1 pass run ratio with a QB that has a gimpy ankle.

This isn't a fire Andy Reid post, but heck I really don't know what they're going to do.

Um injuries, some teams deal with it well others do not. Same old deal in Philly.

# ? Oct 13, 2019 22:59

Its Rinaldo: Aug 13, 2010; CODS BINCH

Seahawks... good?

Nah

Russell Wilson... good?

Yeah that makes more sense

# ? Oct 13, 2019 23:04

LiquidFriend: Apr 5, 2005

fknlo posted:

It's not like we have any real running game to speak of, but that still doesn't make what's going on while Mahomes is hurt alright. If we lose to the Broncos we should sit Mahomes until he's healthy as it's becoming clear that we can't win games while he isn't and he's just going to end up actually hurt behind that line. That's obviously never going to happen though, so I guess start firing people?

They ran what, 11 times in a game that was never out of reach? There aren't any attempts to get it going.

chilihead posted:

Um injuries, some teams deal with it well others do not. Same old deal in Philly.

The Defense sucked before the injuries and I don't think Andy's hand is too injured to flip his Denny's menu to the running plays.

# ? Oct 13, 2019 23:05

Ches Neckbeard: Dec 3, 2005; You're all garbage, back up the truck BACK IT UP!

Its Rinaldo posted:

Seahawks... good?

Nah

Russell Wilson... good?

Yeah that makes more sense

Brown's are a botched abortion from a meth addict

# ? Oct 13, 2019 23:09

Fat Jesus: Jul 13, 2011; to ride eternal, shiny and chrome

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2023

our safeties are the only bright spot on defense and it might be time to give Darwin Thompson some ball and see if he can get yards that burn clock.

# ? Oct 13, 2019 23:09

Durandal1707: Oct 11, 2013

LiquidFriend posted:

I think at this point, you gotta look at Andy Reid.

He's a good coach, but I don't think he's putting out his best effort this year. The Chiefs had the showings of a not spectacular, but at least a solid enough Defensive unit to get forward.

This Defense has gone in reverse instead and the Offense is right along with them. It's easy to blame Spagnuolo, and he's not good, but poo poo maybe look at the guy that's doing a 4:1 pass run ratio with a QB that has a gimpy ankle.

This isn't a fire Andy Reid post, but heck I really don't know what they're going to do.

They really badly miss Eric Fisher more than anything else on offense, I think. He's a solid LT in a league where that's hard to come by and obviously a huge sight better than Cam Erving, who's only really adequate in spot duty. I do agree that the Chiefs probably should run the ball more, since Mahomes isn't 100%. But their o-line is mostly just kind of junky right now from injuries and your best bet is for them to get healthy by December.

# ? Oct 13, 2019 23:23

adaz: Mar 7, 2009

Mind_Taker posted:

Lmao the Skins won by a single point against a team that is actively trying to lose

If, like any reasonable human being, you didnt watch a single second of htis game live look upon this poo poo.

https://gfycat.com/whiteorganicallosaurus-washington-redskins-football

Instead of kicking the XP to tie the game at the end and go for OT they went for the 2 point conversion. This was the play they dialed up

# ? Oct 13, 2019 23:36

Randaconda: Jul 3, 2014; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

LiquidFriend posted:

I think at this point, you gotta look at Andy Reid.

He's a good coach, but I don't think he's putting out his best effort this year. The Chiefs had the showings of a not spectacular, but at least a solid enough Defensive unit to get forward.

This Defense has gone in reverse instead and the Offense is right along with them. It's easy to blame Spagnuolo, and he's not good, but poo poo maybe look at the guy that's doing a 4:1 pass run ratio with a QB that has a gimpy ankle.

This isn't a fire Andy Reid post, but heck I really don't know what they're going to do.

We'll take a used Andy Reid, thanks.

# ? Oct 13, 2019 23:36

LiquidFriend: Apr 5, 2005

Durandal1707 posted:

They really badly miss Eric Fisher more than anything else on offense, I think. He's a solid LT in a league where that's hard to come by and obviously a huge sight better than Cam Erving, who's only really adequate in spot duty. I do agree that the Chiefs probably should run the ball more, since Mahomes isn't 100%. But their o-line is mostly just kind of junky right now from injuries and your best bet is for them to get healthy by December.

Yeah they certainly miss Fisher and Cam Erving is just bad. At this point I really wouldn't mind if Pat went Peyton and just called his own plays and did his own thing.

# ? Oct 13, 2019 23:36

ARCDad: Jul 22, 2007; Not to be confused with poptartin

Go figure, the Browns stick with Hue to show everyone they are patient and not reactionary with their coaches, to entice someone good to come along, and they end up with loving Freddie Kitchens. Now we're stuck with this guy for at least a year or two until we let a ton of our rookie contracts expire, and then have to sign everyone back for $$$$.

The curse never ends.

# ? Oct 14, 2019 00:12

corn on the cop: Oct 12, 2012; Break what must be broken, once for all, that's all, and take the suffering on oneself.

â Corey Dostoyevsky

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# ? Oct 14, 2019 00:24

Mega64: May 23, 2008; I took the octopath less travelered,

And it made one-eighth the difference.

The 3-2 Dallas Cowboys have lost to the 0-4 New York Jets.

# ? Oct 14, 2019 00:25

Shindragon: Jun 6, 2011; by Athanatos

49ers defense was just beautiful today. The goal line stand, and not letting the rams convert any of the 4th downs. Well ok last one was just all Goff. I mean soft/prevent D and he overthrows an easy TD on 4th and 6. Lmao.

# ? Oct 14, 2019 00:27

Kirios: Jan 26, 2010

J
E
T
S

hosed
THE
COWBOYS

# ? Oct 14, 2019 00:27

Nissin Cup Nudist: Sep 3, 2011; Sleep with one eye open

We're off to Gritty Gritty land

Eagles bad, Cowboys worse

Hail Satan

# ? Oct 14, 2019 00:28

really queer Christmas: Apr 22, 2014

Mega64 posted:

The 3-2 Dallas Cowboys have lost to the 0-4 New York Jets.

footballs good again

# ? Oct 14, 2019 00:29

Ches Neckbeard: Dec 3, 2005; You're all garbage, back up the truck BACK IT UP!

The officiating will stay bad until morale improves

https://twitter.com/ByNateUlrich/status/1183485989257469953

also you loving suck Freddie

# ? Oct 14, 2019 00:30

mastershakeman: Oct 28, 2008; by vyelkin

How the gently caress did the Rams throw for 50 yards

And the cowboys get killed by the Jets

# ? Oct 14, 2019 00:30

Kirios: Jan 26, 2010

Freddie Kitchens has to be a one and done coach. He's horrible.

# ? Oct 14, 2019 00:30

Rod Hoofhearted: Jun 18, 2000; I am a ghost

Kirios posted:

Freddie Kitchens has to be a one and done coach. He's horrible.

He became the head coach 'cuz no one who they were interviewing for the head coach spot would take him on as their OC.

IT'S loving BRILLIANT!!!

# ? Oct 14, 2019 00:32

Ehud: Sep 19, 2003; football.

What happened in the browns game that has everyone talking about Kitchens

# ? Oct 14, 2019 00:33

Ches Neckbeard: Dec 3, 2005; You're all garbage, back up the truck BACK IT UP!

LabyaMynora posted:

He became the head coach 'cuz no one who they were interviewing for the head coach spot would take him on as their OC.

IT'S loving BRILLIANT!!!

I mean would you have hired Fat Mike without an OC

# ? Oct 14, 2019 00:34

Silly Burrito: Nov 27, 2007; SET A COURSE FOR
THE FLAVOR QUADRANT

Mega64 posted:

The 3-2 Dallas Cowboys have lost to the 0-4 New York Jets.

The Saints broke the Cowboys.

# ? Oct 14, 2019 00:34

Probably Magic: Oct 9, 2012; Looking cute, feeling cute.

Ehud posted:

What happened in the browns game that has everyone talking about Kitchens

He took a timeout on a play that would've given them a TD to challenge a play that he then lost. The next play the Browns turned over on downs. It was at the goal line.

# ? Oct 14, 2019 00:34

The Juggernaut: Nov 29, 2005

Get hosed cowboys!

# ? Oct 14, 2019 00:35

DariusLikewise: Oct 4, 2008; You wore that on Halloween?

McVay has regressed in play calling so much this year. Opened this game with 8 effective run plays and then didn�t run any play action at all. Just no balance at all or creativity at all.

# ? Oct 14, 2019 00:36

Kirios: Jan 26, 2010

So I looked at the Sunday Night game tonight and...no thanks, I'll go do something else with my time.

# ? Oct 14, 2019 00:36

Ches Neckbeard: Dec 3, 2005; You're all garbage, back up the truck BACK IT UP!

Probably Magic posted:

He took a timeout on a play that would've given them a TD to challenge a play that he then lost. The next play the Browns turned over on downs. It was at the goal line.

The play he stopped to challenge was also the EXACT loving play he ran right after. The first time it was going to be a loving TD.

Kitchens is the dumbest fucker.

Kirios posted:

Freddie Kitchens has to be a one and done coach. He's horrible.

The above and the Browns are the most penalized team in the league. Bakers ridiculous regression aint helping.

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