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Colonel Cancer
Sep 26, 2015

Tune into the fireplace channel, you absolute buffoon
Well obviously most vacuums are far too small and flimsy to contain a spaceship

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Randarkman
Jul 18, 2011

Frankenstyle posted:

To be fair it had a very clear point, but it could have been made with less effort. It was also only eleven minutes of the movie.

I'm talking about the Finn and Rose subplot and the casino planet and the plot to get the hacker which goes nowhere. That was not only 11 minutes.

Jezza of OZPOS
Mar 21, 2018

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Colonel Cancer posted:

Well obviously most vacuums are far too small and flimsy to contain a spaceship

I reckon a good industrial Dyson could manage it

RFC2324
Jun 7, 2012

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Lambert posted:

Is this actually true? At least Wikipedia makes it seem like what he did is write the script for the first movie based on a short two-page synopsis after not getting the rights to Flash Gordon. Not that he had a whole thought out universe.

Valley of the whills or something like that. You can see where he took that and twisted it to make Star wars, and it was considered canon at one point. Sorta.

Tiberius Christ
Mar 4, 2009

its about a bunch of losers that gets their entire rebellion killed and despite all the efforts of their parents winning against the space nazis decades ago theyre back and theyve blown up five times as many planets

skasion
Feb 13, 2012

Why don't you perform zazen, facing a wall?
Most of what people think of when they think of the Star Wars “universe” is the stuff created in the 90s in the big media blitz that led up to the prequels coming out. If you go back and check out the 70s and 80s stuff it’s really loving weird by comparison. Not terrible necessarily, but weird.

I don’t think I’d say that the early drafts of Star Wars and the Journal of the Whills and poo poo constitute inventing the universe first. This is not a situation like Tolkien deciding to bolt his sequel to The Hobbit together by saying it all takes place in the future of his pre-existing mythology of Beleriand. Lucas was trying to write a script for a movie from the start, not create and flesh out a setting as its own thing. But he DID go back and mine stuff from that early material for the other movies. It’s especially noticeable with proper names like Anakin or Valorum or Utapau popping up again in different contexts, but there’s also stuff like how part of the concept of the really early spinoff novel Splinter of the Mind’s Eye (Luke crashes on a weird hostile swamp planet where he encounters a Jedi master and fights Darth Vader) clearly got recycled into Dagobah in the second movie.

RFC2324
Jun 7, 2012

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skasion posted:

Most of what people think of when they think of the Star Wars “universe” is the stuff created in the 90s in the big media blitz that led up to the prequels coming out. If you go back and check out the 70s and 80s stuff it’s really loving weird by comparison. Not terrible necessarily, but weird.

I don’t think I’d say that the early drafts of Star Wars and the Journal of the Whills and poo poo constitute inventing the universe first. This is not a situation like Tolkien deciding to bolt his sequel to The Hobbit together by saying it all takes place in the future of his pre-existing mythology of Beleriand. Lucas was trying to write a script for a movie from the start, not create and flesh out a setting as its own thing. But he DID go back and mine stuff from that early material for the other movies. It’s especially noticeable with proper names like Anakin or Valorum or Utapau popping up again in different contexts, but there’s also stuff like how part of the concept of the really early spinoff novel Splinter of the Mind’s Eye (Luke crashes on a weird hostile swamp planet where he encounters a Jedi master and fights Darth Vader) clearly got recycled into Dagobah in the second movie.

I grew up with the 80s stuff, so that's what i tend to think of as far as the toys.

The books were super weird and disconnected tho, and there was clearly no editorial control till the whole holocron project.

I love the fact that the was a book where Luke and Leia straight up get it on, no wordplay that would allow denial. Apparently a good series too 😂

Meme Poker Party
Sep 1, 2006

by Azathoth

Tiberius Christ posted:

its about a bunch of losers that gets their entire rebellion killed and despite all the efforts of their parents winning against the space nazis decades ago theyre back and theyve blown up five times as many planets

Moral of the story: if you strike down the nazis, they will become more powerful than you can possibly imagine.

Saint Drogo
Dec 26, 2011

with a little tweak the moral could be 'the power of love & being right won't help you if you act like dipshits,' a far more resonant and topical lesson.

numberoneposter
Feb 19, 2014

How much do I cum? The answer might surprise you!

Lucas should buy back the Star Wars rights.

Or make an entirely new IP called Star Whores. The highest budget pornograohy series of all time. And start it at IV like a moron. Or if that already exists he should buy that and add prequels.

skasion
Feb 13, 2012

Why don't you perform zazen, facing a wall?

RFC2324 posted:

I love the fact that the was a book where Luke and Leia straight up get it on, no wordplay that would allow denial. Apparently a good series too 😂

Wait really? I would have thought Star Wars was always too sex averse for this

Colonel Cancer
Sep 26, 2015

Tune into the fireplace channel, you absolute buffoon
Anakin Skycocker making a glass dildo from coarse sand with his lightsaber

tylersayten
Mar 20, 2019

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
If you like Disney Star Wars i feel bad for you

Meme Poker Party
Sep 1, 2006

by Azathoth

tylersayten posted:

If you like Disney Star Wars i feel bad for you

.... son

I watched 99 movies and these ain't one.

Horace Kinch
Aug 15, 2007

op i will summarize every movie for you


1 - anakin, a slave child who grows up to become a muderer, wins his freedom in space nascar
2 - anakin gets that cougar puss, reveals he hates sand, and even genocides sand people to prove how much he hates all things sand related
3 - anakain gets the cougar pregnant, and his uncle palatine teaches him it's okay to murder children, then he goes surfing in a volcano and gets his limbs chopped off by his bestie and in his angsty rage tells everyone his name is vader and to stay out of his loving room
4 - vader and uncle palpatine and uncle tarkin blow up a planet with the death star. anakin's son, luke learns how to use a laser sword from old man kenobi across the street. then he and his friend han solo shove a potato into the death star's exhaust and the engine blows a head gasket and a few pistons shatter and do you know how much it's going to cost to fix this poo poo vader? i mean goddamn you know the space mechanics are gonna bend us over and assfuck us hard when we see that bill. anakin also saves a pricess
5 - anakin makes out with the princess who is also his sister. vader freezes han solo but not before getting billy dee william's autograph because he is one suave motherfucker and vader just cannot stop gushing over how fly this man is. also he tells luke that he's his dad. his evil child murdering planet exploding dad who also severs luke's hand just to be a dick.
6 - vader and palaptine get the death star back from the space mechanics. luke and all of his friends are gearing up to shove another potato up that sumbitch but there's force field now and they have to break it down so they attack it. vader's gang is hanging out and they get owned by lovely teddy bears and i am not making that up. return loving sucks. also luke owns his dad and uncle palpatine. vader find redemption in death despite spending his whole life committing atrocities on a scale that can only be measured in megahitlers
7 - harrison ford can wash his hands of this bullshit once and for all by allowing his character to be killed off. it's literally episode 4 with different characters doing different poo poo
8 - ha well that's $8 you're never going to see again. the director phoned this one in every step of the way and it's so bad it doesn't get a sassy summary

Horace Kinch fucked around with this message at 18:10 on Oct 24, 2019

numberoneposter
Feb 19, 2014

How much do I cum? The answer might surprise you!

9 - emperor palpatine cackling and doing backflips for 2 hours

RaySmuckles
Oct 14, 2009


:vapes:
Grimey Drawer

Tiberius Christ posted:

its about a bunch of losers that gets their entire rebellion killed and despite all the efforts of their parents winning against the space nazis decades ago theyre back and theyve blown up five times as many planets

drat, this actually sounds like some pretty good satire

Lord Frankenstyle
Dec 3, 2005

Mmmm,
You smell like Lysol Wipes.

Randarkman posted:

I'm talking about the Finn and Rose subplot and the casino planet and the plot to get the hacker which goes nowhere. That was not only 11 minutes.

Me too. But you're right the part on the casino planet was 11 minutes, the whole thing was more like 17 to 25 depending on whether you're counting every second Finn and/or rose were on the screen.

Saint Drogo
Dec 26, 2011

it only felt around Return of the King length

RFC2324
Jun 7, 2012

http 418

skasion posted:

Wait really? I would have thought Star Wars was always too sex averse for this

"Splinter of the Mind's Eye" written as a sequel to ANH before ESB came out. It is literally why Lucas changed the rules so he had final editorial control over all things Star Wars, because it was so insane even beyond Luke and Leia loving

skasion
Feb 13, 2012

Why don't you perform zazen, facing a wall?

RFC2324 posted:

"Splinter of the Mind's Eye" written as a sequel to ANH before ESB came out. It is literally why Lucas changed the rules so he had final editorial control over all things Star Wars, because it was so insane even beyond Luke and Leia loving

Yah I’ve read Splinter, it’s one of the old really weird spinoff things I was thinking of, together with the old Lando adventures where he’s this space libertarian huckster who fights an evil cop Big Bird alien. I don’t recall them loving though they are flirting and breathing heavily at each other throughout

Meme Poker Party
Sep 1, 2006

by Azathoth
You know maybe between that and the Holiday Special it's understandable that Lucas decided to kick everyone else out of the decision making process lol.

RFC2324
Jun 7, 2012

http 418

skasion posted:

Yah I’ve read Splinter, it’s one of the old really weird spinoff things I was thinking of, together with the old Lando adventures where he’s this space libertarian huckster who fights an evil cop Big Bird alien. I don’t recall them loving though they are flirting and breathing heavily at each other throughout

I haven't read it in 20 years so I'll admit my memory might be corrupted by time and the internet

I do know the space weasel thing was real tho

skasion
Feb 13, 2012

Why don't you perform zazen, facing a wall?

RFC2324 posted:

I haven't read it in 20 years so I'll admit my memory might be corrupted by time and the internet

I do know the space weasel thing was real tho

Meme Poker Party
Sep 1, 2006

by Azathoth

You know I've seen this before. But I think between being distracted by the obvious, and probably looking at smaller, lower quality versions before, I never noticed before that Solo is balancing on a giant alien vertebrae .

Shamino
Mar 14, 2008

I am weary of loitering about Britain. There is much we could be accomplishing! Where hast thou been, anyway?
I don't get the hate for rogue one? It's well paced, the visuals are amazing and the end scene is great the first time you see it.

ikanreed
Sep 25, 2009

I honestly I have no idea who cannibal[SIC] is and I do not know why I should know.

syq dude, just syq!

Shamino posted:

I don't get the hate for rogue one? It's well paced, the visuals are amazing and the end scene is great the first time you see it.

Goons are full of hate and can't enjoy anything.

Kazak
Jan 10, 2012

Rogue One is the best Disney star war but it still really drags in spots and wastes characters' potential

ikanreed
Sep 25, 2009

I honestly I have no idea who cannibal[SIC] is and I do not know why I should know.

syq dude, just syq!

Kazak posted:

Rogue One is the best Disney star war but it still really drags in spots and wastes characters' potential

Snarky droid is better than social justice droid at least

skasion
Feb 13, 2012

Why don't you perform zazen, facing a wall?
Rogue One is just a big old mess. You can tell it had half its guts edited out. Nobody in it has a personality and there are no good lines in the movie. In look and feel and especially tone, I think it does succeed. There’s not much in there that makes you take your head out of the movie and say “really?” like the dumb joke at the start of TLJ. The problem is, it’s because there’s not much in there at all. It certainly does depict a star war, but it’s charmless and unengaging. It wants to be tragic, but it’s not quite strong enough in its characters to achieve that.

Kazak
Jan 10, 2012

ikanreed posted:

Snarky droid is better than social justice droid at least

That character was shockingly bad and clumsily written. A smarter writer could write a strong b plot around the way droids are treated but this felt like a caricature of woke activists (but I sense it was v sincere and self congratulating)

Saint Drogo
Dec 26, 2011

ikanreed posted:

Goons are full of hate and can't enjoy boring pointless poo poo.

Meme Poker Party
Sep 1, 2006

by Azathoth

Kazak posted:

That character was shockingly bad and clumsily written. A smarter writer could write a strong b plot around the way droids are treated but this felt like a caricature of woke activists (but I sense it was v sincere and self congratulating)

L3-37 is just perplexing as hell. I am honestly not certain if her actions and views were supposed to be inspiring or humorous. And that's not a backhanded "lol, can't tell parody from reality with those sjws!!!". I mean that I earnestly cannot determine if the authorial intent was that her fight for droid rights was something that the audience should find endearing and cheer for, or if it was all just wackiness played for laughs. I'm not even sure they knew.

Just a very bizarrely written character all around.

Kazak
Jan 10, 2012

Chomp8645 posted:

L3-37 is just perplexing as hell. I am honestly not certain if her actions and views were supposed to be inspiring or humorous. And that's not a backhanded "lol, can't tell parody from reality with those sjws!!!". I mean that I earnestly cannot determine if the authorial intent was that her fight for droid rights was something that the audience should find endearing and cheer for, or if it was all just wackiness played for laughs. I'm not even sure they knew.

Just a very bizarrely written character all around.

I bet the writers think the audience is really really dumb and will only understand entirely basic one-note characters. See also: how they did Donald Glover so wrong.

ikanreed
Sep 25, 2009

I honestly I have no idea who cannibal[SIC] is and I do not know why I should know.

syq dude, just syq!

Yes exactly?

Analytic Engine
May 18, 2009

not the analytical engine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OiqPmsBYieA

Trumps Baby Hands
Mar 27, 2016

Silent white light filled the world. And the righteous and unrighteous alike were consumed in that holy fire.
The deal with Star Wars:


Star Wars = incredible 70’s movie that defined a generation. Holds the gently caress up.

The Empire Strikes Back = rare sequel that is better than the original. If you watch Star Wars then you owe it to yourself to watch this, it’s really that good

Return of the Jedi = Absolutely bonkers, cocaine fueled pure 80’s cheese. Fun afternoon watch. Partially made by the dude who did the first one. Non-essential Saturday morning cartoon vibe overall, but some of the ending stuff transcends the material and could’ve been straight out of Empire.


In the late 90’s/early 2000’s they released some other ones that were laughably bad. Maybe worth seeing if you’re a fan of bad movies, but even then they’re more boring then funny

Now Marvel is releasing a couple every year like they do with their other franchises. Just like those movies they’re fun, exciting popcorn flicks that you’ll forget completely the moment you walk out of the theater.

But yeah, just watch the first two if you’re interested and ignore the rest

RFC2324
Jun 7, 2012

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Trumps Baby Hands posted:

The deal with Star Wars:


Star Wars = incredible 70’s movie that defined a generation. Holds the gently caress up.

The Empire Strikes Back = rare sequel that is better than the original. If you watch Star Wars then you owe it to yourself to watch this, it’s really that good

Return of the Jedi = Absolutely bonkers, cocaine fueled pure 80’s cheese. Fun afternoon watch. Partially made by the dude who did the first one. Non-essential Saturday morning cartoon vibe overall, but some of the ending stuff transcends the material and could’ve been straight out of Empire.


In the late 90’s/early 2000’s they released some other ones that were laughably bad. Maybe worth seeing if you’re a fan of bad movies, but even then they’re more boring then funny

Now Marvel is releasing a couple every year like they do with their other franchises. Just like those movies they’re fun, exciting popcorn flicks that you’ll forget completely the moment you walk out of the theater.

But yeah, just watch the first two if you’re interested and ignore the rest

why would you make Jedi sound so appealing then not recommend it?

Randarkman
Jul 18, 2011

Yeah, that's a little weird. The movie is messy, but when it works it really works, and it's passable as the conclusion to the things set up in Empire, even if it rushes through some of it in dumb ways (like Yoda).

If you've seen the first two and liked them then you should probably see Jedi as well, even if it's not as good as the first two (and it hardly compares to Empire) and not nearly as tight and efficient as the first one.

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SHISHKABOB
Nov 30, 2012

Fun Shoe
When I was a little kid I almost cried when Luke was kicking Vader's rear end and then cuts off his arm, all the way through to when he throws away his lightsaber. It's really good. Then they cut to some bullshit with ewoks but whatever.

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