pram posted:

The Management posted:

I’m just a simple country boy that knows how to make a piece of sand act like a computer.

Sagebrush posted:

i avoid telling my students that they're smart. instead if they do well i tell them that they must have worked hard. i think that this is psychologically healthier.

if you tell someone they succeeded because they're smart, they hear that they are automatically good at it without trying, so i think it actually belittles their accomplishment somewhat. more importantly, it doesn't give them any way forward should they start to struggle. oh well i guess since this is hard i must not be good at it and i never will be because i'm not smart in that way.

on the other hand if you tell them they worked really hard, they hear that their time and effort -- something they make a conscious decision to apply -- is valued. and if something is hard, they just think oh, that's okay, all i have to do is keep working at it and i'll improve. nothing more to it than that, no need to panic or get depressed.

Share Bear posted:

ya this is good and how you should treat kids too

i am just now learning how to apply myself after coasting my entire life and it sucks

Sagebrush posted:

it's a fine line to walk bc if you push too hard then it turns into a protestant work ethic / bootstraps / "i deserve my 3 billion dollars because i worked for it" kind of thing. go too far and you'll start excusing exploitative labor practices.

but in general i think it's good to instill a sense that many desirable things can be achieved if you focus on them and don't give up. i'm always telling my students as much when they complain that they can't draw well enough and oh bloo bloo i just don't think i have the talent. i say bullshit, no artist could draw when they were born, but they got better, right? you just keep putting in the time and you will improve.

sometimes they then say "but you make it look so easy and it's NOT" and that makes me a little angry. i've told one or two students "of course I'm better than you at this; i have been doing this for nearly twenty years and you started six months ago. why do you think you should be as good as I am already? if you were, why would you be here?" then they sort of get the point.

e: i will tell students that a particularly clever idea is smart, but i avoid saying that smartness is the reason their work is good. smart idea + no execution = no results.

Sweevo posted:

the only true wisdom is knowing that you know nothing

echinopsis posted:

the trick isn’t just to say that persistence is the key to success, it’s somehow to instil a work ethic too

I can only imagine how I might actually have some success in life if I wasn’t a lazy piece of poo poo. thankfully I can get away with doing less work to achieve the same outcomes when it comes to learning compared to others, coz getting my degree and registration involved a lot more “it just comes easily to me” and not so much “I just studied my rear end off”. imagine being one of those people who were both. imagine living a life better than treading water. lol actually imaging a better life is probably bad for my mental health

animist posted:

i am a moron

Gentle Autist posted:

move away from christ, your life will improve immeasurably

ewiley posted:

Welcome to yospos Mr. President please enjoy your stay

ewiley posted:

Mods unban Space Kimchi

SpaceAceJase posted:

yospos cured my poster syndrome

animist posted:

i am a moron

animist posted:

i am a moron

Silver Alicorn posted:

what even is intelligence, man. what if its all just luck and social capital

rotor posted:

when i was a kid i honestly believed that 'intelligence' wasn't real and it was, as you asked, just kind of luck and education and experience and so forth but then I spent some time interviewing enlisted men in the Army and yeah no intelligence is real and some people just don't have a lot of it.