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glitchwraith
Dec 29, 2008

I just caught up on Marauders, and am also eagerly awaiting the next issue. Bring back our drunk Captain/Queen, you cowards!

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glitchwraith
Dec 29, 2008

Beerdeer posted:

Has anyone followed up on Krakoa apparently needing to eat mutants?

Yeah. I forget where they said it, but basically since there are so many mutants on Krokoa now, the island only needs to take a minuscule amount of psychic energy from each mutant to get it's "fill".

glitchwraith
Dec 29, 2008

How vital are these Wolverine and X-Force issues to the event? On one hand, I don't have a big pull this week anyway, but on the other, I'd rather not pick up a book I haven't been following just to see how a character got a sword.

Edit: I went ahead and got them after skimming and seeing they where at least a two-parter among themselves. Hopefully it wasn't a waste of money.

glitchwraith fucked around with this message at 19:12 on Oct 7, 2020

glitchwraith
Dec 29, 2008

Having read Wolverine and X-Force, I feel like I could have skipped it without missing much. Beyond Wolverine getting his sword, it mainly introduced his opponent, which I wasn't too impressed by. I suppose he might play a bigger role later on, but who knows. Still trying to decide if I want to get all 22 chapters or try to stick to the important bits and/or the series I've been reading anyway.

glitchwraith
Dec 29, 2008

Codependent Poster posted:

They're saying that the Vulcan on Krakoa is the one that was in space and he wasn't reincarnated.

Wait, I thought Vulcan was reincarnated, but only after weird, inter-dimensional aliens messed with his essence to make him a ticking time bomb.

Or something like that.

glitchwraith
Dec 29, 2008

Someone can correct me if I missed an appearance elsewhere, but I believe last we saw Sunspot he was hanging out with the Shiar to stay close to Cannonball and try to hook up with Deathbird.

glitchwraith
Dec 29, 2008

I think it's important to note that Xavier isn't buying fully into the anti-human sentiments. He's just realized that the only way mutants will get a level playing field is to control the field themselves. He's just not preaching coexistence as much because after four or five genocides, it becomes politically disadvantageous to keep giving the perpetrators further chances to reform themselves.

In other news, I loved the new issue of SWORD, and now really want to see Manifold in more comics. Never realized how interesting his powers were.

glitchwraith
Dec 29, 2008

How Wonderful! posted:

I love Manifold's whole attitude in general, I loved his conversation with the other Australian guys last month, and I adore that when he's told he's not top of the pops he was just like "ok, so I guess watch out?" Just a secure, happy guy. I love him.

Yeah, I really want more Manifold now. His depiction in SWORD, from his powers to his personality, is delightful.

glitchwraith
Dec 29, 2008

gimme the GOD drat candy posted:

oh, those assholes. it is already official policy that gabby is on the no resurrection list and no one has the guts to tell her clearly. instead they dissemble, endlessly.

Where was that revealed?

glitchwraith
Dec 29, 2008

Kingtheninja posted:

Yeah so did I interpret that correctly? They atomized Darwin and used those atoms to allow a 4th evolution stage to happen? I knew it wasn't going to be a happy ending but drat.

I read it as them continually atomizing Darwin to force him to evolve, and studying the process to improve their own evolution. Of course, once they achieved that, they would have killed him off.

Chinston Wurchill posted:

Ah, I guess I just wouldn't be as cheerful in that situation.

It's supposed to be a bittersweet moment. Definitely sad that she doesn't remember, but her reaction shows she's the same person he fell in love with, and thus hope.

I agree a few more issue would have been cool. Imagine if they had sprinkled this story in between the previous issues, with each new issue highlighting the massive time jumps.

glitchwraith
Dec 29, 2008

Gologle posted:

The fact that they're calling it Planet Sized, and we know from Hox/Pox that mutants do survive in the far future in Shiar space, and Krakoa has a space program, kinda gives it away already, but I'm still excited at seeing how everyone reacts.

I feel like it will be something more than just leaving Earth, given the human's shock and the amount of Cosmic McGuffins SWORD is stockpiling.

My theory: Planet Krakoa

Assuming, of course, it doesn't all burn down in Mystique's justified rage.

glitchwraith
Dec 29, 2008

It's been a while since I read the Arakko exposition, but wasn't it implied that they also had access to some form of resurrection process?

glitchwraith
Dec 29, 2008

It can be confusing though figuring out when an event will be chapter focused like X of Swords, and when it will be more loosely tied together like the Hellfire Gala, at least until you actually get the books. I know Swords through me off by putting the Wolverine/X-Force two parter early on, which was probably the most skippable part of the event.

glitchwraith
Dec 29, 2008

I think it's reasonable to be nervous about a writer you like leaving a comic series earlier than expected and before wrapping up the story, especially given what often happens in that situation. Still room for hope in this instance given the quality collaborators still involved, but there's no way to know how it will shake out until it's all said and done.

glitchwraith
Dec 29, 2008

gimme the GOD drat candy posted:

hey, one of them has an inexplicable spider on their chest despite being completely unrelated to spiders and spider men. see, totally different!

No, no no, see, that was a highly stylized dragon....somehow.

glitchwraith
Dec 29, 2008

Barry Convex posted:

not saying this is what's happening, but I wouldn't necessarily be shocked if the title is a bait-and-switch and this book has very little to do with Moira

I'm not sure if a title mentioning Wolverine focusing on Wolverine instead of someone who isn't Wolverine is a bait and switch.

glitchwraith
Dec 29, 2008

Barry Convex posted:

I mean that the X lives/deaths in the title aren't necessarily related to Moira's, to be clear

Gotcha.

In other news, I really enjoyed this issue of New Mutants. Scouts back! Scouts back! SCOUTS BACK!

Also, Vita does a really good job of juggling multiple plot threads, at least in this title. Would really like to read more team books by them. Not sure what went wrong with Children of the Atom, which I skipped.

Edit: Corrected a pronoun.

glitchwraith fucked around with this message at 22:21 on Sep 1, 2021

glitchwraith
Dec 29, 2008

IUG posted:

Was it just me who thought Trail of Magneto was terribly written? Not just the three *sigh* in the first few pages, the dialog was horrible. Everything Stark said made me wish he was dead.

I thought Magneto's whole attack was going to be done kind of misdirection or something, but no, just a dumb attack. Also he's invincible or something, every mutant on the island and a bunch of Avengers can't stop him.

I am almost certain the attack was a misdirection, as it looked like Hope had influenced Magneto into doing it. I'm assuming his confession was part of that. Why Hope did that, to what end, and what her role in this whole murder is remains unanswered, as is most of the plot, but that's to be expected in a mystery.

glitchwraith
Dec 29, 2008

Mameluke posted:

SWORD question: What was with Storm's vision of her fighting herself in the Arakko ring? Does Tarn have a Storm clone hidden away?

From context, that seemed to be the fight that won Storm a spot on the Arakki Great Ring. I'm assuming the duplicate "Yuu" was the mutant that held the position previously, and had some kind of shapeshifting mimicry power. That said, I haven't found any previous mentions of Yuu to confirm this.

glitchwraith
Dec 29, 2008

wiegieman posted:

The seat gets two votes because you have to kill not only the person sitting in it, you have to kill yourself to get it.

Ah, I must have missed/forgot that part. Or was it covered elsewhere?

glitchwraith
Dec 29, 2008

Well, regardless of confusion, it was a great issue. Can't go wrong with Storm just repeatedly showing what a bad rear end she is.

glitchwraith
Dec 29, 2008

Doctor Spaceman posted:

How is/was Way of X?

Good series overall, but the third issue got some justified criticism. I feel like it found it's footing again soon after though. Should be a sequel series coming in the near future.

glitchwraith
Dec 29, 2008

FilthyImp posted:

Did they ever explain what the Otherworld Deaths did to you. Other than being a convenient Reboot button?

They made it sound like you would be multiversally unique or something.

Rockslide seems to be starting over from a blank slate, and Gorgon was briefly shown having a panic attack in Way of X, though that was at least partially induced by Fabian Cortez amping his telepathy in a public setting.

That said, didn't the Hellions die in Arrako (or the demon dimension it was in at the time), not Otherworld? I know they noted it still affected their resurrection process, but I had assumed it wasn't as severe as Rockslide or Gorgon's deal.

glitchwraith
Dec 29, 2008

I was reading his Avenger's run for a while, but dropped it after the Phoenix Tournament, mainly because of his baffling decision to tweak Thor's parentage. Did anything ever come of that? Is Phoenix Song: Echo good at least?

I feel like Aaron has come up with a lot of really fun ideas for his Avenger's run, but the execution has been middling to bad, at least of what I read.

glitchwraith
Dec 29, 2008

Cloks posted:

A lot of his ideas read to me as really high concept changes to the Marvel universe without any exploration of the ramifications. I think you can make changes like that to characters and the Marvel cosmology but without exploring the depths of those changes it just reads like a kid smashing their action figures together.

Agreed. And honestly, smashing toys together can lead to some entertaining stories, in my humble opinion, but it doesn't really mix well with the high concept parts you mention. Or at least, doesn't in this run.

glitchwraith
Dec 29, 2008

I like a lot of the ideas in Trial of Magneto and think I'll like how it resolves Wanda's place in Krakoa, but agree it's been a step down in quality from the X-Force series.

New Mutants was amazing. Gorgeous art, fun power combos, ethical debates; everything I look for in a cape comic.

Marauders felt like filler, but getting to see Bobby let lose on a drunk Fin Fang Foom was fun.

glitchwraith
Dec 29, 2008

Skwirl posted:

I prefer his early work

https://twitter.com/rdauterman/status/1447956946464563203?s=20

I have to wonder if he stumbled upon his childhood drawing shortly before doing the Phoenix cover.

I can just hear little doodle Scott yelling "Jean!" in the background.

glitchwraith
Dec 29, 2008

nunsexmonkrock posted:

What is Betsy now? Telapathic? Telekinetic? Both? Hard to keep track of .

I think telepathic with psyblade, along with whatever magical upgrades come along with being Captain Britain. Not reading Excalibur though, so I'm likely off.

glitchwraith
Dec 29, 2008

TheWorldsaStage posted:

So the whole clone cult paradise thing is still going? I miss xmen but I did not enjoy what Hickman was doing to them when I stopped reading.

Not only is it still going, it's been so well received and the other writers have enjoyed writing the current status quo so much that they are extending this part of Hickman's three part plan, even as he steps aside to work on other projects.

Also, the mutants terraformed Mars, renamed it, and made it capital of the Sol system.

glitchwraith
Dec 29, 2008

Endless Mike posted:

Read X-Men or Inferno first? Or does it matter?

X-Men takes place before Inferno, but the story lines don't intersect at all.

glitchwraith
Dec 29, 2008

Yeah, it's all Krakoan tech built into the suit. He's basically Plant Iron Man.

glitchwraith
Dec 29, 2008

danbanana posted:

As previously mentioned by him, Hickman wanted Rogue involved but had to cut her for time/space. He reveals that her original role was that SHE was going to be the one who resurrected Destiny, after stealing Emma's powers and using Cerebro. That makes a ton more sense than Emma's motivation of... not being told about Moira. Though I also think it's kind of lazy for a writer to go back to "Rogue was raised by Mystique/Destiny so she loves them" because Carey did his damnedest to settle all that poo poo.

Except it was Hope who resurrected Destiny, after being fooled by Mystique disguised as Charles.

That said, regarding Emma's role and motivation, in addition to being offended she was left out of the secret and also discovering Moira was hiding her true motivations, Emma likely is a true believer in Krakoa. For all her moral shades of grey, she ultimately does care about mutant children, so seeing them have a home where they can grow up free without fear of death is a dream come true for her. She's smart enough to know that even if Moira was fully onboard with Krakoa, her mutant power means that her unexpected death could completely undo any progress they had achieved. So, she took care of it by pointing Mystique and Destiny at Moira, giving them the means to undo that specific threat.

glitchwraith
Dec 29, 2008

Didn't realize this would be an annual vote. So, how will this work? Will the the winner join the current team? Replace someone? Will there be another in-universe vote for the rest of the roster, potentially creating a partially or entirely new team?

glitchwraith
Dec 29, 2008

Answering my own question. Apparently there will be a new team that, like last time, will be announced at the Hellfire Gala. Curious how much they shake up the roster, as changing it too drastically seems like it'd be a challenge to write. I assume Scott Captain Krakoa and Jean are safe bets unless they really shake things up, and that at least some of the previous members will get a second term.

Also, while I liked the Hellfire Gala last time, I kind of hope it's not another big crossover event, as doing that once a year sounds exhausting. Would much prefer to make it a mini, or at least smaller crossover, if not contained to just the X-Men title.

Anyway, after listening to her episode on the Cerebro podcast, I'm going with Bling! She has a lot potential! And excitement! Why am I yelling?!

Gorgon was a close second though, because I'd like to see the Otherworld deaths explored more. Though I'd much rather see it done with Rockslide.

glitchwraith
Dec 29, 2008

Internet Wizard posted:

There was the one guy who was about to start a terraforming mission but the Hellfire Gala happened like just before he launched it

Isn't that the same guy who grabbed Phobos? Honestly, the one criticism I have of the current X-Men comic is how much the human antagonists blend together. There's the rich space guy, and the rich genetics guy, right? But both somehow have super powers?

Bah, give me more Cordyceps Jones and his space casino.

glitchwraith
Dec 29, 2008

Teslephant is also acceptable.

glitchwraith
Dec 29, 2008

FilthyImp posted:

:tali: Raven... i'm...I'm alive and loving hot again?! Wha..What... how... oh hey let's completely gently caress everything up because VENDETTA!

:byodood: LETS gently caress poo poo UUUUUUP

You've just summed up everything I like about the two characters. It's looking like they'll be getting the spotlight in the first issue of Immortal X-Men. I'm eagerly looking forward to it.

glitchwraith
Dec 29, 2008

Cloks posted:

Gillen has said he's going to write some of the issues from the perspectives of the various members of the Quiet Council and I am READY for the Sinister issue.

I expect that series to be quality throughout, but I'm sure Sinister will be especially good. Though I missed the specific issues, I understand Gillen is to thank for Sinister's modern, campy personality.

glitchwraith
Dec 29, 2008

Heavy Metal posted:


Wow, Comicvine tells me this guy was first in an Al Ewing Rocket/Deadpool team-up book from 2017. Which also has a Mega Man X alternate cover. I gotta read this.

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/rocket-4-the-blue-river-score-part-4-dirty-money/4000-613800/

Good rule of thumb is that if Ewing is writing, it's probably worth checking out. SWORD was really good, and I expect X-Men Red will be as well.

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glitchwraith
Dec 29, 2008

Saoshyant posted:

Read it. Definitively a ton of deep cuts, not exactly to the story's benefit. Really... Brimstone Love from X-Men 2099 as the villain and with an even dumber design that their original 90's look??

Brimstone Love really was the weakest part of this Annual. I think someone weaponizing the mutant's apparent abandonment of Xavier's original dream is fertile ground for stories, but fail to see how that works as a foundation for a pain worshiping cult, vague brainwashing notwithstanding.

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