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Blockhouse
Sep 7, 2014

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New Mutants is one of the funniest comics I've read all year. Holy poo poo.

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Blockhouse
Sep 7, 2014

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The most incredible thing about my first X-Men comic is that it wasn't also my last X-Men comic

Blockhouse
Sep 7, 2014

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Stryfe's not only alive but has been in comics recently. He was an antagonist for an arc in the last year of Gerry Duggan's Deadpool run.

Blockhouse
Sep 7, 2014

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The first 3-4 issues were probably already scripted when the feedback/resulting apology came in so Laura's not changing for a bit

Blockhouse
Sep 7, 2014

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BrianWilly posted:

But like, over in New Mutants they're literally starving babies to show off how extreme and dangerous the new threat whose name I can't remember is. By comparison Wolverine and Quire getting killed comes across almost quaint. Just like old times y'know.

I do agree with Cabbit that the whole "mutants can come back to life now" clause is making writers more prone to gratuitous violence instead of less. So in a lot of these books it feels like we're reading the same old snuff porn that made X-books so annoying for so many years, but now it carries even less weight.

by a lot of these books do you just mean "X-Force and Fallen Angels" because I'm not reading those and not really seeing any of this in the other books

Blockhouse
Sep 7, 2014

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I think that's a weird assumption when there's no inference that they're dead and Hordeculture doesn't kill the three people that directly tried to attack them

Blockhouse
Sep 7, 2014

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Archyduchess posted:

I skipped the Skottie Young Deadpool run-- does he still have his memory of the Duggan stuff erased? There's a scene between him and Captain America in today's issue and I wasn't sure to what extent their shared history was informing it.

As far as I know still erased yeah

Blockhouse
Sep 7, 2014

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Dreqqus posted:

Hickman Nightcrawler

And I'm all the way in.

Before anyone gets too excited this is part of Giant-Size X-Men, so it is a one-shot

Blockhouse
Sep 7, 2014

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twistedmentat posted:

The reason the Avengers don't help defend mutants is because they don't appear in the books that's happening. When they do appear in them, they're generally written "no, mutants are people, gently caress you loving racist shitheads *hits with shield*"

Avengers Vs X-men notwithstanding of course.

The problem is things like AvX and IvX and Civil War etc have turned "well the Avengers just aren't appearing in mutant books" to "the Avengers only care about the X-Men when it's time to be real lovely to them"

Blockhouse
Sep 7, 2014

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New book announced

https://www.cbr.com/children-of-the-atom-x-men-sidekicks/

kind of...don't see the point of this?

Blockhouse
Sep 7, 2014

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I can't bring myself to give a poo poo when it's another group of teen X-Men that are going to be crowd fillers and nothing more the second this book ends.

Maybe use the characters you have?

e: Like you literally have every mutant character ever at your finger tips and you decide it'd be a good thing to focus part of your line on new characters that have similar powers and costumes as other, more popular characters? What??

Blockhouse fucked around with this message at 22:41 on Jan 17, 2020

Blockhouse
Sep 7, 2014

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The drunk wheelchair Pyro stuff was to show that part of the issue was happening during Marauders #1 because it took place over a period of time

Blockhouse
Sep 7, 2014

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Okay, so!

At the end of Gwenpool Strikes Back she has a heart to heart with Kamala about how her meta-powers means she's constantly aware that her existence will end the second she becomes popular. Kamala theorizes she has faked the whole "from the real world thing" accidentally as a subconscious way of dealing with mutant reality-warping powers manifesting. Gwen has a breakdown and agrees with Kamala that, yes, she made it all up. She's really a mutant.

...Except she knows that was bullshit and just wanted to leave Kamala feeling satisfied that she successfully solved all of her problems. As she heads back into her fourth wall space to await oblivion, she finds a Krakoa gate. She accidentally retconned her origin enough to actually make herself a mutant, even if she's aware that she's not.

Blockhouse
Sep 7, 2014

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He was a major character in Austen's run but I'm pretty sure he was never retconned into being a mutant. He was just weaker unless he was actively being an rear end in a top hat and serving Cyttorak's whims.

Blockhouse
Sep 7, 2014

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I'm biased against it because I want an actual book about the non-New Mutants young mutants, not just Ed Brisson's b-plot starring the five characters he's decided he wants to be in everything

Blockhouse
Sep 7, 2014

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Valkyrie has actually dealt with the mutant resurrection process as part of creating the Death of Death, a new cosmic avatar that tried to kill Death as she had lost meaning

Blockhouse
Sep 7, 2014

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I feel like saying Bob Layton "vanished" is a mischaracterization when he actually just moved over to Iron Man and wrote one of the few well-remembered storylines that book ever had.

Blockhouse
Sep 7, 2014

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Chris Claremont gave comics so much with his X-Men run. He revived and redefined a dying franchise, and everything from that run is so iconic that it effectively changed comics as a whole forever. Claremont's X-Men is a landmark and he should always be respected and credited for that.

However, it's also been like thirty years since he's written a comic that wasn't either mediocre or brain-searingly awful so I'm not sure I care about what 2020 Claremont thinks about modern comics at all.

Blockhouse
Sep 7, 2014

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Harold Fjord posted:

Can the tattoo mutant put his mutant tattoos on other mutants?

Ink isn't a mutant, the guy who made his tattoos is a mutant

Ink loving sucks

Blockhouse
Sep 7, 2014

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Skwirl posted:

They walked back Laura going back to X-23 pretty forcefully, I'm hoping they do the same with Gabby. I know she's been on panel since the relaunch, but has she been directly referred to by anyone?

I can't imagine they're going to back down on using a name they just used in a solicitation

Blockhouse
Sep 7, 2014

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Rosenberg was almost definitely given a big list of X-Men to kill before HoX/PoX

Blockhouse
Sep 7, 2014

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Skwirl posted:

I don't think he was given a kill list, I think he was told nothing he did mattered since everything was going to be reset immediately afterwards and he threw a hissy fit.

I'm pretty sure everyone in the X-Office know about HoX/PoX well in advance and I think it's weird to just assume maliciousness.

Blockhouse
Sep 7, 2014

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Well now we have a pretty good idea of who's getting resurrected on the cover of the next X-Factor!

Blockhouse
Sep 7, 2014

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Dawgstar posted:

X-Factor only has a few issues out but it's stellar.

Sword of X Spoilers: Aw, rest in peace, Rockslide.

oh man how pissed off am I about to be

Blockhouse
Sep 7, 2014

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Blockhouse posted:

oh man how pissed off am I about to be

update: the answer is "moderately"

Blockhouse
Sep 7, 2014

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I'm going to be fair and say I'm willing to give New-Rockslide a shot but minimizing him as a character in favor of Glob followed by killing him off to prove a point just really sticks in my craw.

I greatly appreciate Emma being pissed off about it.

I'd be less salty if he had done literally anything since Dawn of X started

Blockhouse
Sep 7, 2014

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Metalshark posted:

The work Williams is doing with Polaris is already promising to be potentially revolutionary for her too, and I say this as someone who's a big fan of her two X-Factor stints.


Same [Emma Frost still protecting her flock! :3: ], though I must sadly point out that New Rockslide disintegrated in Polaris' arms and she then made the summoning circle from them.

Oh! I missed that somehow!

gently caress me I guess!

e: Or wait is that old Rockslide's body that's the circle now

ee: Yeah that's Santo's body Lorna's holding onto not the new guy

Blockhouse fucked around with this message at 17:44 on Sep 30, 2020

Blockhouse
Sep 7, 2014

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No she just...turns into sand.

Maybe Macdeo is thinking of Blindfold?

Blockhouse
Sep 7, 2014

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Skwirl posted:

The cancelled show he had nothing to do with?



???

He worked on Steven Universe too. Animation has been his field ever since he left comics.

Blockhouse
Sep 7, 2014

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Like what really gets me with this is 90% of the Kitty and Kong stuff is off-panel and never really addressed that much but I guess Terry Long broke a lot of people when it come to "this character dating this character is the writer's self-insert" thing.

It just feels like some comic fans want to make not liking a writer's work personal. Remember the days of people constantly talking poo poo about Jeph Loeb's son?

Blockhouse fucked around with this message at 02:14 on Nov 2, 2020

Blockhouse
Sep 7, 2014

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Saoshyant posted:

Finally catching up with this week's comics. Marauders was not on point this time. I understand what Gerry Duggan et al were trying to do, but nobody has written Logan like this in several years. It's a regression and a cheap one at that.

Hell Duggan's never written Wolverine like this.

Blockhouse
Sep 7, 2014

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ngl I fully checked out after the Rockslide stuff and I hope X-Factor addresses him when it comes back

Blockhouse
Sep 7, 2014

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this Franklin Richards thing is basically that bit about how Squirrel Girl isn't a mutant and a doctor legally signed a binding document confirming she was not but entirely serious.

Blockhouse
Sep 7, 2014

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Skwirl posted:

Except Squirrel Girl also hadn't really interacted with The X-Men in any meaningful way prior to that happening.

I think you're misinterpreting my statement as any kind of defense rather than the intended reading where I was comparing this stupidity of this to something that was intentionally stupid

Blockhouse
Sep 7, 2014

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It's almost definitely someone higher up deciding that Franklin can never be involved with Krakoa stuff ever again so we have to kill off any lingering elements from FF/X-Men

Like I know we all like to blame poo poo entirely on Slott but everything about this smacks of a writer being told to get something done by editorial they either don't want to do or don't care about and just slapping it in a book as an out of context scene that has nothing to do with anything else

Blockhouse
Sep 7, 2014

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but no seriously as much as my feelings on this are decidedly mixed I implicitly trust Leah Williams with this whole Baby Rockslide thing

Blockhouse
Sep 7, 2014

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If I remember right Orphan-Maker is the one who has been retconned into being a mutant

And if how Hellions has been going is any indication there's a good reason it's never been talked about before.

Blockhouse
Sep 7, 2014

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It's only a villain speech if he's wrong.

Blockhouse
Sep 7, 2014

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Gologle posted:

So now that Gwenpool retconned herself into being a mutant, what's her mutant power?

Self-focused reality warping.

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Blockhouse
Sep 7, 2014

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The Franklin Richards thing still feels like some weird editorial or corporate beef. It's so out of nowhere and so suddenly dropped and then moved on from that it just feels like someone high up had a serious bone to pick with Franklin being a mutant.

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