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Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


ANYTHING YOU SOW posted:

So the grenfell inquiry, whose decision was it to split into two phases with the first phase covering the night of the fire?

Seems pretty transparently a way for the government to shift blame in the media on to the fire brigade.

https://twitter.com/getfiscal/status/1189932863195697153?s=19

they've also started to blame too many regulations too

also new thred

quote:

Arise, slaves afflicted by hunger and cold,
Arise, suffering people all over the world!
The blood which fills our chest has boiled over,
We must struggle for truth!
The old world shall be destroyed
Arise, slaves, arise!
Do not say that we have nothing,
We shall be the masters of the world!

There has never been any saviour of the world,
Nor deities, nor emperors on which to depend.
To create Humankind's happiness
We must entirely depend on ourselves!
We shall retake the fruits of our labour,
And let the mind burst free from its prison cell.
Let the flames in the furnace burn red-hot,
For only when the iron is hot will we succeed in forging it!

Who is it that created the world of humankind?
It is us, the masses.
Everything is for workers,
How can parasites be accommodated!
The most detestable are those poisonous snakes and savage beasts
Eating up our flesh and blood.
Exterminate them all at once,
The red sun will shine all over the globe!

This is the final struggle,
Unite together towards tomorrow,
The Corbynationale
Shall certainly be realised.

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Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


MrFlibble posted:

Sure, but if they replace Corbyn with anyone to his right I ain't voting for 'em.

unless like 300,000 lefties leave the labour party or the PLP manages to stop people voting for the leadership I don't think the labour right is taking control of the leadership anytime soon

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


OwlFancier posted:

I'm not sure fracking is "a revolutionary source of cleaner energy"

Digging around in the gutter for dog ends is a revolutionary source of cheaper cigarettes

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!



Proposed labour slogan: Britain is already great!

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


Braggart posted:

A Brexit Party MEP was caught sharing anti-Muslim content on social media, says Tory MP.

I approve, he continued.

Funny that they call it anti-Muslim because the tory party official position is that islamophobia doesn't exist and is basically cultural Marxism stopping intellectuals from speaking out against the Great Replacement

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


Sent crobin my manifesto ideas, shoulda c/ped them for discussion probably. if they were implemented the whole frontbench would be killed in a coup but that'll may be attempted even if they don't.

E specifically ending our crooked financial laundering and tax avoidance, and arms sales industries and doing something productive instead.

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


ronya posted:

huh

what's this committee of the left that has grudgingly lowered themselves into accepting Corbyn as a compromise candidate

the power flows entirely the other way - Corbyn's group gets to decide exactly how left the party is and not an inch further. The attempts to keep Momentum, founded as an explicitly Corbyn campaign group vehicle, separate from Labour as a party all failed. The attempt to wrest Momentum from Lansman failed. Momentum, not the CLPD or some older group, decides how members will vote for motions to fail or succeed at Conference. Insofar as there are power struggles, it's exclusively between people who are Corbyn loyalists at this point. People who try to play the leftier-than-thou card a la Chris Williamson get what he got.

there is no-one further left who is relevant. This is not Tony Benn operating in an era where the left control city councils across England and with a horde of influential MPs with experience in cabinet and backed up by loyal CLPs. Corbyn is the remaining representative of the left. Beyond him, there's just leafletting irrelevantly in the rain

if the show is to keep going, those who fancy themselves inheritors of the left mantle are going to have to get used to defining radicalism downwards

this post owns if you imagine the Saw theme while you read it

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


OwlFancier posted:

How many shavers do you own that you need an extension lead to hold them all?

i've only got 2 slots which isn't enough to charge my toothbrush, shaver and bad dragon ovipositor

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


Firos posted:

Using all three of these at once seems like it would be asking for trouble somewhat.

its just efficient, one in each hand then bounce up and down on the third. spit out the toothpaste and wash away the shavings while completing the oviparous stage

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


Isn't Rachel Riley a porn star from back in the day?

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


Mr Phillby posted:

Feeling encouraged to post more and lurk less. You all brought this upon yourself.

I've been following UKMT for years now, altough I did bounce off the thread during the Milliband years because it seemed just pages of arguing about Zizek from my limited exposure at the time. Over time thread has has helped me crystalize my political leanings from 'uncritcally votes labour (blair was good), gently caress the tories' to 'Full socialism now, purge the hated blarites and wreckers but especially gently caress the tories'. It also opened my eyes reading other peoples experiences with gender and identity itt and I got to say 'I am a homosexual' to my parents for the first time last night and I've never been happier.

Feeling positive and optimistic despite everything rn.

Felicitations, Comrade!

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


alphabettitouretti posted:

Regardless of what people say Corbyn wants, isn't labour's policy on Brexit to negotiate a deal then have a 2nd ref? I didn't imagine that did I?

Isn't this the same policy as Lib Dems?

Afaik the libdem 2nd ref would be No Deal vs Remain, making libdems the only party pitching no deal as a probable outcome

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


Guavanaut posted:


I always see "queer" as like People of Color, you use it for the wider community in a less exclusionary way than 'not straight' or 'non-white', calling an individual a Person of Color is too close to just calling them Coloured though, call them the ethnicity that they are if you need to describe their ethnicity.

Sometimes it's hard to gauge someone's ethnicity accurately if I don't have my calipers on me though

/peering at myself in the mirror

Ah, a degenerate ham sandwich, fallen too far to be a race adversary

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


Cunning politics to have a clock reminding everyone how long it's been since you got owned and humiliated

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


kustomkarkommando posted:

First ballot for the new speaker.

https://twitter.com/PARLYapp/status/1191388624274821120?s=19

Hard to see how Lindsay Hoyle doesn't get the job

Why has no one put abbot on there?

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


Also Lindsay Hoyle is not nearly as female as I expected

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


Tesseraction posted:

I want to be in the debate, Daddy!



This feels problematic, Comrade, but also absolutely dead on

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

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RockyB posted:

Frankly I now really Corbyn to let one of his team sub in for him just to shut down this talking point. Only possible next woman PM? Nah, here's Diane Abbot tag teaming Blustering BoJo with Rebecca Long-Bailey.

A bloodied bojo reeling from fist to fist within a ring of labour women

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


RockyB posted:

Yes I do perceive of all 'leadership debates' as WWE matches, why do you ask?

Even better, let's bring back gladiator. Wolf vs Corbyn. Bet we can get a channel 5 special out of that.

The UK secretly being run by Vince Mcmahon makes a hell of a lot of sense

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

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Did the flaps thread get deleted? There were good memes in there

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

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Videogames is the best mod

Unfortunately I don't believe in heirarchies so they're still on the List

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


Can ronya or someone smarter than me point me to a good explanation of LTV? I think it's that if you vote labour, that's good value

E or is it just some old timey bullshit that only marxist academics and telegraph writers care about

Communist Thoughts fucked around with this message at 22:16 on Nov 4, 2019

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


Ikwaylx posted:

Just got done talking to my friend trying to convince him not to spoil his ballot, he was convinced that we should just say gently caress it to the leave voters in the labour constituents because majority of labour members voted to remain. It's not a bad point because yeah I do agree in some sense, but I know how much sway those labour leavers have in the party.

Seems convinced Labour can't win a majority either, we got work to do lads! At the very least he didn't disagree that we need to focus on other issues that aren't necessarily just brexit. How do people manage to do this without getting depressed about the current political situation for us?

I think tbh if someone is only concerned with remain they should obviously vote for Labour.

Theyr the only party with a shot and their policy of 2nd ref is the same as the libdem realistic policy of 2nd ref except its a deal v remain rather than maxxxx blood v remain

The libdems will just end up coalitioning with the tories if labour don't beat them anyway

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


Archaeology Hat posted:

It really does look like the Lib Dems have hosed it.

Yeah thank god. Swinson has been awful out the gate and it's why I'm down for her to be in the debates, she's never said a single canny thing

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


Tigey posted:

Pretty sure this is fully deliberate, and the Tories are going full Trump/culture wars as one of the arms of their election strategy, hoping to pick up the bitter, hateful segment of the population who probably smirked and joked when Grenfell went up

Yeah I feel like this wasn't really a gaffe, I don't think it was deliberate but I think "poors and ethnics die to save money" has huge majority support in the tory party.

I was talking about this over dinner with me mam and it seems like labour doesn't really have a unifying message that everyone in the party can agree on, even "tax the rich to support everyone else", red meat for one part of the base will upset another part.
Whereas red meat for the tories is just anti scrounger stuff, tough on crime, deport the blacks etc, that plays or at worst doesn't hurt with 90% of their base.

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


Ms Adequate posted:

It would have been incredibly easy to just say "It's the local council's fault" and turn that into a virtue, i.e. "Look, we're not partisan, we'll criticize a Tory council when they get it wrong!" and they don't even have to do anything after that just refer to it for the next few weeks and forget about it after the election.

But the tories are so thoroughly convinced of their own brain genius (Why would anyone disobey the instructions of the fire service? They're literally designed from the ground up to know exactly what's best to do in situations like this!) right to rule and superiority of their blood that they literally can't help themselves from talking poo poo about the victims of one of the great disasters in this country's recent history and the worst fire in 30-odd years.

The tories as they are will always support deregulation to the hilt and always look after their own unless they betray them in some more serious matter than burning a bunch of labour voters to death.
There was never an outcome where the tories hung the council or building...planners, its too late for my brain to know words, out to dry

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


I'm really enjoying the libdem campaign, more so than the tories who have been evil for a decade now

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

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madey posted:

Voting for Watson as deputy is genuinely one of my biggest regrets.

Im smug cause I didn't, I had the inside scoop that he was a "right wing poo poo"

Otoh I think I voted for Creasey who then voted to bomb Syria...

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


Jose posted:

Hentai jihadist you've been whining about this for ages

https://twitter.com/PickardJE/status/1192404768116871173?s=19

HE LISTENED TO ME!

This is what I sent in to their policy suggestion, no need to thank me guys.

Though commiting to an improvement sounds suspiciously like still commiting to surplus I. E. Leaving money on the table

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


Jose posted:

Oh you renamed

Yeah, a cspam IK gave me the old name and it's remarkable how much less hostile people are to my terrible posts now that I don't look like a channer

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

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Tesseraction posted:


Comically enough the one I picked was you saying "this is the last time in my life I'll post about pissflaps"

Haha that was very optimistic of me

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

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sebzilla posted:

Give me maglev trains, Corbyn!

At least as part of labour's Green New deal we're gonna get the retractable cities from evangelion

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

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Tories: the anti-racists natural ally

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

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its only just occured to me that modi looks a lot like big boss from MGS4

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

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Vitamin P posted:

Twitter user @Rachael_Swindon owns because they reply to like every single Corbyn tweet calling him 'boss', it's very charming and it's filtered into my gamer brain enough that now I'm an ironic-but-sort-of-not-ironic Diamond Dog and this election is potentially the satisfying climax Kojima never gave us.

corbyn judo throws me to the ground "thanks boss!"

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

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staying up to play reedus-sim 2019

i hear he gets his whole reedus out in this one

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

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Eschenique posted:

Can anyone clear up the whole "Corbyn did Iranian State TV for £20,000" thing?

Looks kind of a bad considering the Iranian regime at the time. I realize it's blown out of proportion on the google search results but are there any mitigating circumstances?

It's actually even worse than that... Corbyn has been on British state TV many times even though they constantly gently caress with him, and the brits have killed millions and were blowing people up and putting them in camps at the time...

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

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Jaeluni Asjil posted:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/general-election-labour-theresa-may-gunpoint-kate-osborne-jarrow-a9196236.html



But it's alright for Jess Phillips to threaten to stab Corbyn in the front?

If you read the comments under the article you can find a link to the image which is I think Samuel Jackson in 70s look pointing gun.

Eh I dont think we need to pretend we don't understand when jessflaps is speaking metaphorically. It's pretty clear what that meant.

Posting pics of Theresa may about to be shot is good and praxis but it's not very smart for a candidate

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


BizarroAzrael posted:

When his manufactured slovenly persona collides with anything that gammons demand be "dignified" this is bound to be the result

They will still drag themselves through broken glass to vote for him though

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Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

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this is pretty damning

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