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it dont matter
Aug 29, 2008

Seeing a lot of "I'm voting lib dem because they are the party of remain!!!" on twitter which is pretty disheartening.

All that's going to result in is a lot of lib dem candidates killing lab chances of beating the tories, just so they can come in 2nd place.

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it dont matter
Aug 29, 2008

Re million vs billion, I like this analogy from some dude on reddit

quote:

Billionaries aren't just a policy failure, they are the embodiment of immorality. You can't be a billionaire and a good person, despite what their astroturfing PR teams on reddit may try to tell you for some of the 'good ones'.

It's literally impossible to accumulate that much wealth without the mass exploitation of others and the profits their labor generated. Not to mention the exploitation of the earth until it's uninhabitable for human life.

George Washington was the richest man in the country when the US was founded, and he "only" had today's equivalent of 500 million. That wouldn't even get him in the room with some of these ghouls today.

If people only understood just how obscenely rich these monsters were, they wouldn't be able to show their face in society while millions suffer. I like to use the analogy of a staircase, with each step on the staircase representing $100,000 of net worth. That's several years of working wages saved up for tens of millions of Americans:

HALF of people in the united states are on the base or the very 1st step. Almost 200 million people who can't even get one step up in this system.

Those households at the 80th percentile, richer than 4/5 Americans, are on the 5th step. That's about five seconds of walking to get up there.

Those with more money than 90% of fellow Americans, millionaires who we consider our upper-middle class professional class and live more than comfortably, are on the 11th step. A few more seconds of walking up from that previous middle-class step. Most Americans won't even come close to accumulating this much over an entire lifetime of working.

A billionaire is ten thousand steps up the staircase. That's enough to walk up five Empire State buildings. That's almost three hours of walking non-stop. You think they care about the petty squabbles of anyone on those first few steps or so? From these heights they couldn't tell the difference even if they wanted to. And yet those who've maybe ascended or were born on the first few dozen steps think they identify with this group as a class.

And Jeff Bezos? He's so high up it only makes sense to describe his staircase in distance. His stairs take him up 133 miles. That's more than halfway to the space station. That's more than 24 consecutive Mt. Everest's stacked on top of each other. It would take walking, non-stop, no sleep, over two weeks to ascend that high, each single step worth more than five poverty-level families in America combined.

it dont matter
Aug 29, 2008

https://twitter.com/EmmaKennedy/status/1191301597340585984

wow this changes everything!!

it dont matter
Aug 29, 2008


But they might come second after the Tories!

it dont matter
Aug 29, 2008

josh04 posted:

https://twitter.com/eddiemarsan/status/1191148409450881025

Only centrists can deliver the adult politics of not believing in anything at all.

Regardless of what people say Corbyn wants, isn't labour's policy on Brexit to negotiate a deal then have a 2nd ref? I didn't imagine that did I?

Isn't this the same policy as Lib Dems?

it dont matter
Aug 29, 2008

Archaeology Hat posted:

I think the Lib Dem policy is either to just have a 2nd ref (with no plan for if they lose it) or to just cancel it outright. That I am not sure which is a bit :ironicat:

Brexit is loving dumb but just outright revoking without another referendum seems like a bad idea.

But then if you know you're never going to win why not promise it? gently caress it, revoke A50 and everyone gets a free muffin with an EU flag on top.

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it dont matter
Aug 29, 2008

https://twitter.com/StevePeers/status/1192209502545891331

Yeah second place is within their grasp!

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