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ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.

Guavanaut posted:

Delay no more sounds a lot like 屌你老母, diu nei lou mou, in Cantonese, which literally means "gently caress your mother", or more colloquially "get tae gently caress". Johnson has been delaying.

That is one extremely niche/cryptic joke but I appreciate it lol

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ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.

Firos posted:

WINNING HERE.

please don't demean romania like this tia

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.
wings over scotland has always been garbage but idg why they appear to have completely jettisoned the whole indy thing now to focus on out and out transphobia

https://twitter.com/WingsScotland/status/1190766009940140033?s=20

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.
Where are you all going that you get people berating you for not wearing a poppy? I never wear one and see plenty of people not wearing one and I've never once felt like anyone has been hostile towards me. Is this a fashy small-town OAP gammon thing?

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.

Necrothatcher posted:

If this is in reference to my canvassing post from yesterday, it turned out that nobody gave a crap one way or another. I just didn't want to give any gammon on the doorstep any ammunition to use against the Labour party - no matter how minor.

No not at all, I've just noticed a bunch of jokes along the lines of 'WHERE'S YOUR POPPY???' which suggested that some people have actually been confronted for perceived lack of patriotism, which if it's happening on the street is very troubling indeed!

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.

Ash Crimson posted:

In the diseased mind of the gammon, the only proper way to respect ARE troops is to wear some gauche red plastic fake flower, Rather than, y'know, actually materially supporting current and ex-service personnel.

Do the British Legion actually do much in the way of supporting veterans etc? They must rake in a shitload of cash, so I'd hope at least some of that goes towards retraining/mental health support/housing etc. Afaik veterans still get a pretty raw deal of it. At least we're not quite to the level of the USA yet, though I love the idea of valour stealing. I remember watching some video a while back where this 19 year old American guy was going about in military fatigues pretending to be a soldier not even trying to scam people out of money just because it got him laid all the time lol.

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.

goddamnedtwisto posted:

They do a huge amount of work, particularly in the area of mental health - PTSD and institutionalisation are massive problems with ex-service people. They also do a lot of work around education and retraining for people when leaving the services, and physical rehab for injured personnel. The poppies themselves are made by disabled ex-servicepeople (and have been since the very start) as both paying work and occupational therapy.

It's one of the reasons I particularly hate Help for Heroes (quite apart from their fashy vibe), as they (at least until recently) completely ignored mental health issues, and also funded things like hospital beds for injured squaddies, something that RBL have always refused to do on the (very reasonable) grounds that that is absolutely something the MoD should be doing.

Ah cool, thanks.

On the last point though, surely hospital beds for injured squaddies are paid for? I mean, they are British citizens and we have an NHS (for now at least).

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.

goddamnedtwisto posted:

The Forces have their own medical system, and as long as someone is in service they're supposed to use that. For fairly obvious practical reasons treatment in the UK is handled by the NHS, but the MoD foots the bill.

Well poo poo, SA has the unique ability amongst all the bits of the internet I frequent to teach me things I'd never have even thought to wonder about.

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.

Pochoclo posted:

When they say Boris is "channeling Churchill", do they mean he's channeling the Churchill of 1945 who lost in a landslide defeat against Attlee, considered one of the best Labour governments ever?

Because I'm fine with him channeling Churchill if that's the case

One of my favourite things is listening to tankies yell about how attlee was actually just another British imperialist and was actually just as bad as churchill

he totally was in some respects, but lord almighty lads have some nuance

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.

OwlFancier posted:

I mean it's been a very long time since I did it but basically all of his characterisation that I recall is 1. He's Jewish. 2. He's evil, and greedy and wants to literally carve off your flesh. 3. He's really weaselly when you complain about any of that.

He's genuinely the most antisemitic stereotype imaginable. I can get not knowing who he is at all but it's really weird to me that you would know enough to get the reference the character without knowing that he's a literary version of a nazi propaganda poster.

I remember in my GCSE literature class my teacher really really trying to spin an interpretation of MoV where Shakespeare was actually making some biting social commentary about contemporary antisemitism.

There are a few lines that would support this ('if you prick us do we not bleed' etc) but on the whole I still think the tone is more going for 'haha look at the silly jew' tbh.

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.

I honestly feel like they dramatically overestimate the number of shits your average potential Labour voter gives about Scotland and its independence or lack thereof

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.
Hello thread, dumb question but since moving to the big city I've realised that on the tube tfl only take 10p when you use contactless on the tube then bills you the rest a few days later. Now I'm wondering what would happen if I were to use a secondary debit card with like 50p on it. The latter payment would be declined, but what are they going to do about it? (Assuming you're using an account that doesn't permit unauthorised overdrafts)

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.
I don't give a poo poo how mad my bank gets but yeah I guess if they can prosecute me for it best not!

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.

Pesmerga posted:

tampering with an electricity metre

Also a good idea

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.

Mr Phillby posted:

remember in the eighties when we had a movement of alternative comedians because all the popular established ones were really poo poo?

can we do that again

I'd really like to see an actual analysis of why of all the vaguely public figures in the UK that particular brand of early-noughties comedian seems particularly susceptible to brain-worm infection.

Chuka Umana posted:

Phoebe Waller-Bridge: not funny

She's alright but you have to go into it accepting that she's a very posh lady and her comedy reflects that. Fleabag had some great moments but lol at her cliche highly strung 'successful' sister randomly discussing her multi-million pound bonus as if that's a normal thing people do while she owns a trendy upmarket coffee shop and is extremely comfortable but this is somehow depicted as failure.

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.

Chuka Umana posted:

Who the gently caress wants to watch posh Brits outside of upper middle class Americans?

Also I loved the episode where her sister is complaining that she can be funny and make jokes to her boss and she doesn't need Fleabag to do it for her I'm like drat you rich people really have to pick at straws to find things to complain about.

yeah I mean half of the reason I liked it was that the comedy was so out of touch it seemed almost intentional (though I know it wasn't).

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.

jabby posted:

Yeah I watched Fleabag and it was just hard to take her problems seriously.

Plus the Fleabag/'Hot Priest' dynamic that everybody fawned over made my skin crawl. He's in a position of authority, she's clearly vulnerable and in a bad place, and when she breaks down crying to him about her emotional problems he uses the opportunity to have sex with her. It's loving creepy, and so was the deluge of articles talking about how sexy it was.

To be fair plenty of the people I follow on twitter etc were very vocal about how creepy the guy was and how he was essentially an abusive predator. I don't think that's what they were going for per se but it definitely came across that way.

Guavanaut posted:

The end of history innit.

Like 80s radical comedians were either outright racists or outright Marxists or anarchists and there didn't seem to be much middle of the road between that although maybe I'm forgetting some. I do definitely remember Alexei Sayle's lot.

But what's 'political' in the early 00s? The hard left lost, the hard right lost, and there was no impending domestic crisis that people wanted to talk about, other than the kids are wearing hoods now, so the fight was mostly on idpol and Iraq War bad and "I'm a right wing comedian, terrorists allah ackbar amirite" "I'm a left wing comedian georg bush nucular amirite" and both lots of them did alright out of Blairism. There was never much need to actually think about things far outside of the middle ground.

Plus (and I think this is the main thing) they made a ton of cash out of Blairist economics and appealing to the middle ground, so why didn't you?

Yeah I mean you're right. I'm just mad because this whole thing has ruined Peep Show (one of the greatest British comedies) for me because Robert Webb is terminally brainspidered.* Tbh if you look at Jez in that light it seems an awful lot more mean-spirited than it did at the time :(

* David Mitchell is by contrast studiously quiet about his politics which is interesting. Please don't let him be ruined too (or Vicky Coren, who I have the most ridiculous schoolboy crush on).

ThomasPaine fucked around with this message at 00:05 on Nov 10, 2019

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.

OwlFancier posted:

I thought it was like, poo poo grade weed or something. Like the smashed bits of bran flakes at the bottom of the box. Shows how much drugs I do.

I've bought weed 1 whole time in my life and while I enjoyed it that time it's 100% not worth the price. Happy to have some if it's offered though.

Also it's bad because it makes my partner just extremely chill and relaxed and lazy but it makes me ridiculously horny so it's not a great combo tbqh

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.
I love to wank and I would recommend all of you penis havers get a fleshlight and some poppers for a seriously excellent night in alone

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.

Diet Crack posted:

If you like it in the butt, sure I guess - not so sure on it’s effectiveness for penile related activities as it’s a smooth muscle alkaloid. Whatever you do, don’t drink it!

it makes me cum 5x harder than I would otherwise, good times

kind of fucks your actual sex life though unless you use it then too though so use in moderation

Pochoclo posted:

Fleshlights sound like a waste of money and a bit of a mess to clean

EDIT: this is like the worst possible snipe ever

:wrong:

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.

Jose posted:

Congrats on finally proving who is the gooniest ukmt goon

I remain in a relationship despite this fact, sorry to disappoint

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.

Poison Jam posted:

You know what? gently caress the tories


Tories delenda est

:agreed:

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.

OwlFancier posted:

Is... the gently caress tube supposed to be refreshingly ice cold?

SOUNDS LIKE MY GIRLFRIEND LMAO
sorry I'm drunk

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.

Jose posted:

I don't drink tea or coffee but do like a Bovril

gently caress off

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.

Jose posted:

ThomasPaine i hope you're still online because i sent you a pm

holy poo poo i hope that guy is ok

e: i've never seen a butt look like a dick before, wow

ThomasPaine fucked around with this message at 01:40 on Nov 10, 2019

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.

Jose posted:

He uses a sex toy for it

does your rear end go back to normal when you're not using the sex toy or do you just have to live with your intestines hanging out

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.

OwlFancier posted:

I think if you prolapse yourself it doesn't quite go back properly so if you poo poo too hard it's gonna come back out again.

this is why fleshlights are better

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.
i enjoyed putting stuff in my butt but I don't think I could cum from it

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.

Mr Phillby posted:

Jose's prolapse pics are the reason I will never buy platinum.

i could post them

Ms Adequate posted:

The best thing is being sounded bladder-deep until you entirely lose your drat mind. That's one thing I'll miss about having a penis.

that sounds like the worst thing imaginable but each to our own

Ms Adequate posted:

e; The other thing that's best is testicular torment and I will miss that as well, :rip:

this too

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.
gently caress the poppy imho

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.
I'm aware that this is a very steamy take but I'm extremely relaxed about left wing leaders using underhand tactics to remain in power. We tend to fetishise democracy for its own sake but as it is practiced what we end up doing is defending inherently flawed liberal representative democracy for its own sake.

What I want is socialism, I'm not about to cry when socialists are a little flexible about the rules when it comes to an institution that might - and indeed naturally tends to - allow for the election of the right and the rolling back of socialist policy. Ensuring the continuation of that socialist society is far more important than 'respecting' some abstract democratic principle by standing by as violence - and right wing policy is by its very nature violent - occurs.

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.

Failed Imagineer posted:

Yeah what could possibly go wrong

Nothing worse than what would happen under a democratically elected right-wing government

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.

Miftan posted:

I'd be careful about stanning the USSR and China. Yeah, there's definitely a lot of good things that they did right off the bat, but it turned sour real quick. Nobody here needs me to provide examples.

Well I'm not stanning China because after Mao died they clearly fell to an internal counter revolution and started introducing right-wing policy despite their official 'communist' stance, so they are in practice a right-wing government. Good at trains though!

USSR is a little more complex and yes went a little pear shaped but I would argue was the preferable alternative to the USA for the majority of its history. Definitely its collapse can't be read as anything but a tragedy.

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.

CyberPingu posted:

The issues with this is that you are relying on the elected people to stick to that stance. What happens when they go "Cool, we cant be removed anymore, time to go full on scorched earth"

Quite. It's not an easy problem to solve, though I'd argue that beginnings of a solution are to be found in party processes/internal democratic processes rather than state-level liberal democracy.

Despite China eventually losing the plot completely, some of Mao's early innovations in organising (mass line etc) were pretty solid examples.

Failed Imagineer posted:

Good thing nothing bad happened in China between 1949 and 1976

Poor execution (lol) but largely the right idea mostly.

Rarity posted:

Left-wing authoritarianism... good, actually? :psyduck:

Not you're getting the idea

ThomasPaine fucked around with this message at 13:26 on Nov 11, 2019

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.

CyberPingu posted:

Its super hard to solve, the underlying issues are that whenever a party comes in, they spend a lot of time trying to undo what the last party did wrong (or right if you are the tories because why would they let anything good happen). The obvious thing is either make bills more difficult to pass or make them more difficult to be removed, however that opens up a whole other can of worms and if something horrendous gets through it means its staying there.

FPTP needs to be ditched and it just needs to be a straight up and down vote, most votes wins death match (actually gently caress it, just have an MP death match).

Or just make it harder for Tories to be elected

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.

CyberPingu posted:

Its a very touchy issue, but i think if you reach 70 you shouldnt be allowed to vote on anything that will have a lasting effect on the country.

Yeah, I actually 100% agree. Once you have retired you should no longer be able to vote, and the vote should also be extended to anyone who is legally able to work. It's probably well out of the Overton window to openly argue this atm but I don't think it's as difficult a position to coherently defend as it first appears.

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.
I'm kind of hoping that :clegg: will mean that despite their insistence on not propping up Corbyn, the lib dems would actually definitely do so if it got them back into government

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.

Lunar Suite posted:

Probably a couple pages too late but poppers (nitriles) can have cardiovascular side effects and interact with some frequently prescribed drugs. Please do your research and never trick anyone into altering themselves. Disclose risks and discuss responsibly. Thanks.

Poppers: Good for beans in backsides and volcanic jizzing, might possibly be linked to minor long term vision issues, otherwise you'll be fine as long as you're not on any meds that affect blood pressure (including viagra)

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.

Armani Glasses posted:

I've been talking to some friends about the election and most of them are staunch SNP supporter's, their reasoning coming down primarily to Indy Ref 2 or bust, that "SNP have done great things for Scotland", and that they just don't trust Labour as a party. I find I just don't know enough about the SNP as a party, in the recent past or present to really get into it with them. I still just see them as the a "One Issue Party", and don't know where to go for a non-bias run down of them. It's tough to be informed without knowing where to look!

I know why I'm voting for Labour, but I can't debate why they might want to vote differently. What kind of approach could I use here?

The SNP talk a good game but they're primarily pro-business conservatives with very relaxed attitudes towards corporate regulation and taxation! They're a big tent so obviously there are a few socialists in there but just as many if not more tartan Tories and the leadership atm is staunchly liberal.

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ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.

Azza Bamboo posted:

The tories want to legitimise that military action. It makes their dick hard.

UUUUUNGH taking down Corbyn's government with the loving F 35s

Many Tories would love nothing more than to Pinochet Corbyn's Allende should he win the election.

I'm not kidding, a Labour win could be great but the potential far-right backlash is troubling to say the least.


Pretty sure that's the case for most drugs

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