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Custard Undies posted:Racing point is basically a 2019 Mercedes painted Pink. Stroll driver of the day
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Feb 19, 2020 12:40
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So Mercedes invented a 2-axis steering wheel. Nice.
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Feb 20, 2020 11:14
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It's not faked. He did for couple of laps, most of them putting a telemetry marker when using it. Seemed like he pulls it before a straight, and pushes it back before a slow corner. He stopped after the videos popped up everywhere. I can only assume F1 worldfeed noticed it, because they showed a lot of his onboards for couple of laps instead of showing the rest of the field. e: oh, just saw the twitter post...yeah, that's what he did  https://imgur.com/a/dcqVF7i ee: it's crazy how much the front axle reacts in regard to toe. tuo fucked around with this message at 11:50 on Feb 20, 2020 |
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Feb 20, 2020 11:38
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spaceblancmange posted:Williams tried that in 94. 
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Feb 20, 2020 11:44
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NtotheTC posted:Is there any reason that can't modify the brake bias at the same time? AFAIK the rule states it has to be a manual driver adjustment and you can't have presets? When I saw the movement and made sure my eyes/camera angle weren't playing tricks on me, that was the first thing I assumed. But since he changes it the same amount of travel each time, I started to doubt it, as brake bias is changed couple of clicks before most cornes, not "55:45" to "51:49" on a regular basis (since the travel is quite big). It took me a while though to notice the front axle change. I wouldn't rule it out, though. But I haven't seen him go into a corner with the wheel pulled, so I assume he puts front axle geometry back to normal before braking. Sadly, he stopped doing it once everyone saw it :/ tuo fucked around with this message at 12:02 on Feb 20, 2020 |
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Feb 20, 2020 11:59
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I assume the same. If it actually is worth couple of tenths per lap, it will be banned, as other teams can't easily replicate it.
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Feb 20, 2020 12:05
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Apparently Mercedes just confirmed that this is not for testing, but a system they will race, and it adjusts the toe and ride height of the front axle.
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Feb 20, 2020 12:08
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FRICS 2.0 (allthough that was actually invented by Caterham)
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Feb 20, 2020 12:11
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Isabelle aiming for the top, much like Lance Stroll this year
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Feb 20, 2020 14:32
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the kentucky quid posted:It’s a mechanical device which alters the aerodynamic performance of the car which I’m pretty sure is 100% Super Banned Suspension parts are not allowed if they are designed in a way that they influence the aerodynamics/are part of the aerodynamics (ask Rebus, their front suspension was banned last year). So following this rule, as the suspension is currently deemed legal, changing it manually can't have an effect on aerodynamics because else the suspension would be banned. (of course this is all bullshit, but even the other teams currently say it's basically legal) Jokes aside, I absolutely assume this thing will get banned, but it's Mercedes' last take at this before 21 when ride height change will be regulated. The Merc is known for changing the ride height especially on the front axle since years, teams are pushing the limits of POU suspension since at least one season, if not longer, and this is the final overture from Mercedes in that regard. It's peak F1, and it's great!
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Feb 20, 2020 14:44
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the kentucky quid posted:It’s changing the alignment of the suspension at every degree of steering input, don’t be ridiculous The regulations state that with a fixed steering wheel, change on the direction the wheels face or change of the inner diameter of the wheels is only allowed in vertical movement of the suspension. The wheel is pretty clearly not fixed. It turns, and turmbones. Everything is fine. e: here: [quote "some guy at FIA"] 10.2.1 With the steering wheel fixed, the position of each wheel centre and the orientation of its rotation axis must be completely and uniquely defined by a function of its principally vertical suspension travel, save only for the effects of reasonable compliance which does not intentionally provide further degrees of freedom. [/quote] They are doing nothing wrong, it's just a way for Lewis to get in there quicker tuo fucked around with this message at 15:44 on Feb 20, 2020 |
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Feb 20, 2020 15:41
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Rebus posted:Anything exposed to the air is an aero part. The tyres especially so. Sprung or unsprung? 1.4 Bodywork : All entirely sprung parts of the car in contact with the external air stream, except cameras, camera housings, rear view mirrors as defined in Article 14.3, ERS status lights, the secondary roll structure and associated fixings and fairings and the parts definitely associated with the mechanical functioning of the engine, transmission and running gear. Airboxes, radiators and engine exhausts are considered to be part of the bodywork. 3.8 Aerodynamic influence With the exception of the parts described in Articles 11.4, 11.5 and 11.6, and the rear view mirrors described in Article 14.3, any specific part of the car influencing its aerodynamic performance : a) Must comply with the rules relating to bodywork. b) Must be rigidly secured to the entirely sprung part of the car (rigidly secured means not having any degree of freedom). With the exception of the driver adjustable bodywork described in Article 3.6.8 (in addition to minimal parts solely associated with its actuation) and the parts described in Articles 11.4, 11.5 and 11.6, any specific part of the car influencing its aerodynamic performance must remain immobile in relation to the sprung part of the car. Any device or construction that is designed to bridge the gap between the sprung part of the car and the ground is prohibited under all circumstances. No part having an aerodynamic influence and no part of the bodywork, with the exception of the parts referred to in Articles 3.7.10, 3.7.11 and 3.7.12, may under any circumstances be located below the reference plane. With the exception of the parts necessary for the adjustment described in Article 3.6.8, any car system, device or procedure which uses driver movement as a means of altering the aerodynamic characteristics of the car is prohibited. tuo fucked around with this message at 15:49 on Feb 20, 2020 |
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Feb 20, 2020 15:44
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It's cool and good, though!
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Feb 20, 2020 15:49
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Rebus posted:I have no idea if it's legal or not. What do you know about front suspension, rear mirrors and why did you design them? No, gently caress that, I'm actually happy to see Williams closer/with the pack. The performance last year really hurt. I know that first week of testing is smoke and mirrors, but I really hope for a packed midfield without a real backsetter, and really hope Williams will be able to fight the other midfield teams for points or even dominate that field (fighting with Ferrari). tuo fucked around with this message at 16:22 on Feb 20, 2020 |
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Feb 20, 2020 16:17
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It's not changing the suspension. Teams tried to use that rule against Mercedes already, and it seems that if the change is purely induced by the steering component of the front axle, it's not a part of the suspension. Of course this is also bullshit, because all teams have rear axles that steer dependant on load, and that's not purely vertical.
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Feb 20, 2020 16:27
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Also everyone is missing the most important question about the last two days: why is Ocon's head higher than the halo? How could they make a car which they couldn't fit the driver into? The next time you hear a buzzing sound at Renault, I assume it's a bone saw.
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Feb 20, 2020 16:30
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PhoenixFlaccus posted:What does this mean? The angle changes relative to the front axle? All(?) teams have passive steering on the rear axle, as much as the regulations allow. Big Huski Boi posted:Ocon is tall and the halo isn't rollover protection. gently caress safety, I'm talking about aerodynamics.
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Tsaedje posted:Bad news everyone, steering is banned because it changes the aerodynamics of the car. Braking is banned now too, also acceleration. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWhA5DBuLJw&t=44s
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