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chrisgt
Sep 6, 2011

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Cyrano4747 posted:

IIRC it's this. They can't pronounce on them, but you also don't want a EMT or fireman or whatever putting themselves at risk of being injured if it's very clear to all bystanders that there is no head attached to the torso.

Well trying to save someone at your own peril is foolhardy anyway. The first thing they teach you in pretty much any level of responding is to survey the scene. If it isn't safe for you, don't go and add yourself to the count of people needing to be saved.

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chrisgt
Sep 6, 2011

:getin:

I didn't intend to read over 100 pages, but that just sucked me in. Also HOLY gently caress some of those pictures are :nms:

chrisgt
Sep 6, 2011

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Sex Skeleton posted:

Maybe hire better programmers?

Nobody likes to design GUIs so you generally end up with people who don't understand the back end. If you want to make sure some idiot mashing the button over and over again doesn't cause a problem, that's up to the back end/firmware developer.

chrisgt
Sep 6, 2011

:getin:

dreamin of semen posted:

I like to design GUIs :saddowns:

I write firmware on what is essentially a life support medical device. We have an entire team dedicated just to making the UI dev's life miserable finding infinitesimal little bugs. Like on some certain screen the right line of pixels is cut off a column of numbers, or the hue of red isn't consistent across menus. Yea they find real bugs, but holy poo poo I'm glad I don't do UI dev. Pretty much everyone leaves the backend people alone and we make sure our poo poo works and there isn't reason to complain...

My original point is that the backend should ultimately sanitize stupid inputs and not break in a dangerous way. Even if a lovely UI allows someone to enter stupid data, enter it in a bad order, lean up against something and accidentally do whatever, the back end should be robust enough to not screw up.

I think the thing I hate most about UI dev is that it doesn't matter what you do, it won't be intuitive to 1/4 of the users and they'll hate it. no matter what.

chrisgt fucked around with this message at 01:51 on Dec 5, 2019

chrisgt
Sep 6, 2011

:getin:

Really hope that's a right hand drive country so he just has whiplash and not dead...

chrisgt
Sep 6, 2011

:getin:
There is over 100vac between two laptops on different outlets in my house. This is safe, right?


Turns out none of the outlets are grounded; there's an miltiwire branch circuit in the basement and some of the outlets have 120v between the neutrals... I'm lucky I haven't let the smoke out of anything or killed myself with this poo poo...

chrisgt
Sep 6, 2011

:getin:

Cojawfee posted:

If they are on different circuits, that is totally normal. The power company sends ~240v to your house split between two phases. Every other breaker in your breaker panel is on the same phase and gets 120v. Double wide breakers are on both phases and can get the full 240v.

It's a miltiwire branch circuit, so yes I get that. However you shouldn't have 120v between TWO NEUTRAL CONNECTIONS.

You will see 240v between two hots on different legs, THAT is normal.

chrisgt
Sep 6, 2011

:getin:

Elviscat posted:

Oh yeah, that's a classic open on a shared neutral, turns the whole shebang into a series/parallel circuit between the two 240V legs, dropping voltage across each one according to the load. The only reason those laptops aren't smoked is the magic of switch mode power supplies.

Probably got a couple "ghetto grounds" in there too, (grounding pin bonded to the grounded ["neutral"] conductor) that would explain the hot cases.

You got that fixed, right?

E: you need to fix that right now.

It's not my house, I just rent. I pulled the offending outlet and put the correct wire to neutral and hot. Now I have 0v between neutrals and 240v between hots.
There is nothing at all hooked up to the ground pin, not even a jumper. Although I think it's technically to code to convert two-wire installations by putting a GFCI with a jumper between neutral and ground.

There IS a ground wire, but someone cut it off flush with the box, so I'd have to pull the box out, see if there's any loose wire in the wall (there isn't) and then splice in a new piece. Why they did this is beyond me.

None of the outlets in the entire house are grounded. Not a single one. Not even the GFCIs in the kitchen and bathrooms....

chrisgt
Sep 6, 2011

:getin:

Elviscat posted:

Huh, interesting that there was enough leakage in the power supplies to energize the case then.

It's permissible to install GFI protected three prong outlets on an ungrounded circuit, as long as they're labeled "NO EQUIPMENT GROUND" you do not jumper neutral->ground though for the reasons I stated earlier.

I didn't realize a GFI outlet would trip on a ground fault if it didn't have an external path from neutral to ground.

evil_bunnY posted:

There's no loving way that's up to code right? right?

of course not

chrisgt
Sep 6, 2011

:getin:

Slanderer posted:

The ground fault itself is tripped just due to current imbalance between live and neutral, regardless of what path the return curent takes instead of the neutral. It's not quite the same without the ground, especially with regard to EMI, but I dont know the specifics

Yea, I was under the impression the outlet monitored the ground current and tripped if it was too high. For that I assumed there had to be a bond between ground and neutral (hopefully in the distribution panel...). But I have never taken one of these things apart to see how they work. I should do that.

chrisgt
Sep 6, 2011

:getin:

GWBBQ posted:

Imagine asking anyone involved whether they have any idea how close they were to a criticality accident and think about how much faster than usual you would be able to run once they said "no."

Or even worse "what's a criticality event??"

chrisgt
Sep 6, 2011

:getin:

OMFG NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE.
The thing that scares me more than literally anything else in the world is getting trapped, unable to move.

chrisgt
Sep 6, 2011

:getin:

Alkydere posted:

Oh yeah that's the video. Lots of paint and oil but um...the passenger of that vehicle is just gone.

Which is about what I imagine such a brodozer would look like if you nailed the engine block with a German 88, as someone was talking about a few pages ago.

Your car/truck/SUV/minivan are built to crumple to save you. Construction equipment is built to resist the massive loads they put themselves under doing their work. One of those is a lot more durable than the other and survives a collision way, way better.

That's like comparing my steel toe shitkickers with an ant. Two such graders colliding at 80mph would be a bit of a different story.
And now I really want to see that.. In a controlled environment, of course.

chrisgt
Sep 6, 2011

:getin:

Nocheez posted:

Oh, I had that done once! Well, twice. A specialist had to get the rust string out.

Do I even want to know what a "rust string" is in reference to an eyeball...?

chrisgt
Sep 6, 2011

:getin:

Cartoon Man posted:

I kept waiting for a shark to jump out the water and chomp his legs off…but it didn’t happen.
:geno:

The only thing i could watch was the angle grinder.

chrisgt
Sep 6, 2011

:getin:

It wants belly rubs.

But IRL i would not loving stand there.

chrisgt
Sep 6, 2011

:getin:

Facebook Aunt posted:

I like how so many of the burned out cars turned immediately rusted out. Ocean is OP.

Fire and rust are actually the same process, oxidation.
Also fire removes paint, galvanizing, and the tempering from the steel, further letting it oxidize. If you burn a car in arizona, it'll turn up immediately rusty like that as well.

chrisgt
Sep 6, 2011

:getin:

I used to clean a lot of gutters (anything to make a buck). I'm not surprised by this at all. I have pulled entire saplings out of gutters. Like 6ft high trees with roots in the downspout.
Throwing it onto the walkway was a bad move, though. That's going to be a real pain in the rear end to clean up. I've installed a lot of patios/walkways like that with pavers, they are NOT easy to clean that kind of gummy dirt out of.
I'd always have a tarp with a wheelbarrow on it. Target for the barrow, but hit the tarp if i miss, avoid a ton of cleanup.

chrisgt
Sep 6, 2011

:getin:

Impressive turtlehead.

chrisgt
Sep 6, 2011

:getin:

I spent the first 5 loops looking at the extremely rusted section of pipe before i even noticed the cool pipe wrench.

chrisgt
Sep 6, 2011

:getin:

it flies, how heavy could it possibly be :v:

chrisgt
Sep 6, 2011

:getin:

Chocobo posted:

How do these big crane accidents happen? Like isn't there a very clear chart that dictates how heavy a load you can lift and how far out you can reach with that load suspended? The crane operators just don't like numbers or maths?

because "it's an airplane, it must be light; just send it."

chrisgt
Sep 6, 2011

:getin:

Cable Guy posted:

Stick to the road...

Nowhere near me, please.

chrisgt
Sep 6, 2011

:getin:

Mistle posted:

My lovely math says that if the tire is 45kg, and caught 3 seconds of air going up then back down...

That's 1.5 seconds, works out to about 11m vault, giving it... 7.35 on the way down...

That works out to about 330kg m/s

Am I wrong that the 100lb tire landed with about 727 pounds of force? :psyduck:

My math says that the insurance company won't be happy.

chrisgt
Sep 6, 2011

:getin:

stevewm posted:

I had something like this happen before...

Wondered why my computer case was buzzing when I touched it. Found 45VAC present between my computer case and basically anything in the room I touched. Eventually figured out it was coming from the monitor. Which then led me to discover none of the outlets in 2 rooms of my house had functional grounds. Traced that to a failed crimp ferrule.

The monitor had been leaking current onto ground.. With no ground connection it had nowhere to go.. So it traveled down the shield of the DVI connector and energized everything plugged into the computer. Found 125VAC present on the shield of the DVI cable.

I rented a house like this with missing grounds, I couldn't be barefoot at my metal desk. If I stood barefoot on the floor and held one meter probe in my hand, the one touched to the desk read 60vac.
I don't think it's because anything is leaking current to ground, if that was the case your monitor would trip a GFCI if you plugged it into one.

It's because the three-wire plug for your PC, monitor, etc., has, basically, two hots and a ground all parallel to each other. I say two hots because there's no concept of neutral if you don't have a ground.
The result is that through capacitive coupling the "ground" wire picks up 60vac. Now you have 60vac floating on everything that should be grounded, thus touching the USB ports or HDMI cable or something and also touching the actual, physical ground, will give you a shock.

chrisgt
Sep 6, 2011

:getin:

CarForumPoster posted:

What? The three prongs have a neutral that should be 0V relative to earth ground and a hot thats 120V and a ground that’s 0V unless you’re part of a voltage divider you’ll never be 60V.

Well the discussion was that the outlet did not have the ground wire connected. Therefore the ground wire in a cord becomes floating. And if any energy is induced into this floating ground wire by ground leakage in equipment, the fact that wires next to each other capacitively couple, EMI/Y caps, etc. you'll see voltage on the ground. Thus you may see voltage between the equipment case and the actual, IRL, ground.

chrisgt
Sep 6, 2011

:getin:

Fil5000 posted:

Oh, I guess Battletech was right, machine vision is hard and when you can't work out what something is just cycle between a bunch of things it MIGHT be.

kind of like Chinese to English translation in google translate.

chrisgt
Sep 6, 2011

:getin:

Ornamental Dingbat posted:

John Carpenter-looking duct cleaning thingy.
https://i.imgur.com/4I7M6CY.mp4

chrisgt
Sep 6, 2011

:getin:

mobby_6kl posted:

^^^
She needed to get on the other side of the hose

https://i.imgur.com/G9au1hu.mp4

My coworkers and I used to do that, except we put the new guy in the bucket with a hedge trimmer.
One day the company's insurance agent saw us doing this and I got a really nasty call from my boss.

chrisgt
Sep 6, 2011

:getin:

He grabs the load before it makes any grounding contact, can't this lead to extreme static electric shock, or is there some other mitigation to that?

chrisgt
Sep 6, 2011

:getin:

Weave is prettier, but stringers put less heat into the material for the same strength.

chrisgt
Sep 6, 2011

:getin:

Necrosaro posted:

This is a good channel to subscribe to. You occasionally get new videos of them blowing things up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgIX0gKP-4c

the stopsign guy is doing a good job making sure everyone knows the bridge is closed.

chrisgt
Sep 6, 2011

:getin:

Platystemon posted:

lol if you don’t have a whole rack of “medieval maces”





realistically, how dangerous are these to handle?

chrisgt
Sep 6, 2011

:getin:

CommieGIR posted:






Driver did not survive.

this is why i open the hood of the vehicle i'm pulling with a hard tug. I'd rather dent up the hood than kill someone.

chrisgt
Sep 6, 2011

:getin:

nope nope nope nope nope nope nopity-loving-nope.

chrisgt
Sep 6, 2011

:getin:

something tells me this customer was being a complete asshat to the office staff

chrisgt
Sep 6, 2011

:getin:

Scholtz posted:

The step ladder placed so you can get onto the table where your ladder is.

:discourse:

I'm guilty of this, too:

chrisgt
Sep 6, 2011

:getin:

Mister Speaker posted:

What the gently caress? How???

Magnets are grown in a magnetic field, obviously.

chrisgt
Sep 6, 2011

:getin:

there's gotta be a better method to scoop up the excess than having the lowest-paid employee go after it with a shovel. Maybe a tractor with a back blade or something,

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chrisgt
Sep 6, 2011

:getin:

Jabor posted:

if you're gonna swim nude please keep your groin submerged, tia

unless you're a super model, in which case stay on the pier.

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