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Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
I'm sure the Tsar royalty never, ever, did anything wrong and caused a single famine in their hundreds of years of leadership

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Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Mantis42 posted:

The Ukrainian famine was neither intentionally started nor a genocide. Even biographers critical of Stalin, such as Kotkin, do not support the notion that he aimed to starve Ukraine. His agricultural collectivization and simultaneous need to feed the rapid expansion of urban industry played a role, as did climate and kulak intransigence.

Precisely.

Also the whole, pre-Russian Revolution thing of life under, uh, the feudalistic royal family that treated Ra-Ra-Rasputin like a sex object. Maybe feudalism was wrong, who knows? Maybe the people transitioning from said awful feudalism with a lack of resources and historical references were figuring it out as they went along? You don't have to write it off as some amazing time, but hey, the "Victims of Communism" took all their money and erected some lovely billboards in the center of Times Square, New York City. The loving ugliest manufactured place in all of humanity. Maybe someone consider that perhaps these radical anti-anyone-to-the-left-of-Ronnie-Raygun might possibly be arguing in bad faith?

Maybe this whole narrative is probably less relevant than the whole, concentration camps along the border reality that is actually happening right now, but liberals want to get their poo poo in like they think they're Low Ki dressed up as Agent 47 or some bullshit. If you asked a modern radical leftist, they'd tell you we are in a radically horrific neo-feudal shithole waiting for climate change to wipe us all off the map before anything else.

Why do people feel these ways with such extremity? Maybe that's something worth interrogating before the next time you post.

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