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Has anyone considered that if Corbyn's Labour wins the election, then he will have been the most successful left wing British politician since, arguably, Atlee ? Who he has a lot in common with. But yeah obviously an unelectable failure.
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XMNN posted:and somehow it's only marginally worse than the current timeline Arguably nonagenerian monarchs might be better than rule by capital given noblesse oblige is a thing
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Drone_Fragger posted:They use the same statistic to "prove" that the working class overwhelming vote conservative, and it's entirely because for some reason the class brackets that the ONS uses includes pensioners as working class because of their income. The working class, well known for no longer working
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Dec 2, 2019 21:57
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goddamnedtwisto posted:The evidence for this is that it was posted on Reddit and had spelling mistakes. That's it. And based on that the entire media class (which now includes you whether you like it or not) are using it in an attempt to make it easier for billionaires to get richer at the expense of the poorest. I feel like this is an editorial question more than anything else: the substance of what the article's saying is fine. It's a good idea for people to be doing research into the topic, but writing articles based on ambiguous research which are bound to be weaponised against one party is dubious. Basically the article is clickbait and shouldn't really be published by a major news organisation around an election, but the research backing it sounds useful and important. Hopefully Leveson 2 sorts this sort of thing out and reduces the tendency of journalists to write ill conceived clickbait. E: Hopefully there can also be more financial incentives for in depth and considered journalism rather than zingers fuelled by advertising dollars. Ideally we could reform the press to make it a public service institution rather than one driven by market forces: the separation of advertising and editorial has just broken down in the Internet era. Purple Prince fucked around with this message at 10:20 on Dec 3, 2019 |
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Cerebral Bore posted:BM and his fellow "experts", such as the luminaries who are trying to cast doubt on those documents, make their money by creating a narrative where literally everything must be assumed to be a Russian plot. They do this because the resulting mass hysteria keeps them on the gravy train with minimum effort on their part, since their audience might as well consist of seals trained to clap and will never question this poo poo no matter how ludicrous it gets. I'd be careful with this one since it's pretty much the Russia Today line on anything to do with election interference. The journalism is trash, but the direct quotes from academics are a lot more moderate - saying the document's release on Reddit follows similar trends to those of Russian disinformation drops is not the same as claiming that the document itself is fake or must be a result of disinformation. The article spins it this way, but the academic evidence is very much "somewhat suggestive, but who knows?" Especially if we don't know if Labour's source is Reddit or a Whitehall leak.
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Just looking at Burnham, Kendal and Cooper.... cyphers. This is what centrists identify with and want to see in power. If you want a vision of the future, imagine a £90 brogue stamping on your face forever.
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Dec 3, 2019 11:14
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Guavanaut posted:I read it as "the performance of the assessors will be gauged by metrics led by disabled people" rather than "skills wallets but for PIP" Ideally you would want DWP people to know about any difficulties so they can signpost / access other support services and programs. But given how that's gone under the Tory DWP it makes sense to be concerned. I wouldn't even want to give an assessor a glance at my mental health record because I'm terrified what they'd do with it.
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Aphex- posted:I'm on my 3rd consecutive sick day. To be fair I feel like poo poo and my throat is on fire and I'm tired as hell, but my manager is pretty lax about it. He also doesn't want to get sick which is what would happen if I came in and coughed over everything so it's best for everyone. Neoliberalism may not like it, but this is what peak management performance looks like. When you take into account the impact on morale and productivity of forcing people to work when they're ill, it's pointless. Exception is if you're in say customer service and can work your minimum wage staff to the ground then dismiss them when they have problems. Bruce Daisley has some interesting things to say about it although he gets shirty if you try to make any kind of political conclusions from his management stuff (which says things like "former workers make the most competent managers")
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Dec 4, 2019 10:04
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josh04 posted:Cannot decide if this is the best thing or the absolute worst thing. Further proof of Corbyn's cult of personality! Where will this disgusting autocrat stop?!!
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It's total BS. Neuroplasticity means your whole personality can flip to something different in the course of a few years, so why would politics be exempt from that? At 16 I was a moron who thought Con/Lib was the best possible government because it would help the economy; then I joined the Greens because they were the only party talking about the important stuff; then had a weird period at uni where I experimented with individualist anarchism, green politics, and even a bit of fascism (the 'might is right' social darwinist and Romantic sides, not the racist BS, and this was mostly just reading), then settled into being an uncertain democratic socialist who doesn't know if the authcoms have a point. The only thing I've never revisited is liberalism. If in less than a decade I can go through most places on the political spectrum, the only thing stopping people from doing the same is a lack of curiosity.
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OwlFancier posted:I think curiosity is kind of a luxury tbh, it's a lot harder to be curious about poo poo when you're knackered and working all the time. Yeah my political theory reading has really slipped since they forced me to get a job
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Dec 4, 2019 11:19
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OwlFancier posted:Also just generally? Like thinking is work, thinking about politics particularly can be emotionally as well as intellectually taxing. And we live in a society that demands all of those resources from us in exchange for subsistence and encourages us not to engage them for leisure but to consume things unthinkingly instead. Free time is a luxury that can be purchased, but unfortunately you need to either have loads of money or a good income and a flexible employer, both of which are not exactly easy things to come by. Until we have a society where free time is valued for activities other than consumption or making a profit general in curiosity is going to be the rule - which is why the 4 day week idea is a good one. Ask me about my multi year struggle to take control over my life (long story short: leave the Anglosphere).
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TACD posted:You can theoretically just flip your personality the same way you can just start eating healthy and going to the gym every day, but you won't because it's almost impossible to break a habit through sheer force of will. Two thoughts: this is why we need to fund philosophy for all!  And yeah, this is why material conditions are important. If people can easily change their situation in life to explore new possibilities (Foucault calls this experiments in living) then politics is likely to be a lot more informed and diverse. That doesn't mean "socialist" but it probably means "not regressive and racist".
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Bobby Deluxe posted:The brain's ability to adapt to new patterns of thought rapidly goes downhill after the age of 20, it's why people are so desperate to cram as much educating* into teenagers before that age. I'm not sure this is true, it sounds a lot like the Critical Age Hypothesis in language learning and a quick glance at Wikipedia tells me that neuroplasticity is generally considered to continue through adulthood. I remember reading an article in New Scientist that talked about how a professor with advanced dementia kept lucidity way beyond the norm because his job and hobbies meant that his brain was constantly rewiring itself around the loss of gray matter. So environment seems to be a key factor in how used to adapting to new thought patterns one is. It's true kids learn very fast, but is that because of their environment or is it a biological reality? Hard to say. It's probably combination of the two, and so if we can create material conditions that enable lifelong learning then we might be surprised at the number of geniuses that emerge.
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Tesseraction posted:I'm not sure why but I have one such voice. It's very useful but does mean my conversational volume is audible through multiple walls unless I consciously dampen. If you talk from the chest rather than the throat you will naturally tend to project your voice. I just tried it and realised my throat voice sounds weird as hell.
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Josef bugman posted:Why is it that being human is always conditional on being just like these feckless sacks of poo poo rather than being human. Only Russell Group graduates who got hired in the Extremely Competitive and Meritocratic Graduate Scheme are real humans.
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Josef bugman posted:So I am increasingly seeing. I can't believe that there are still people taking these folks seriously and then I need to remind myself that I was one of them up until fairly recently. A lot of my graduating class are intolerable snobs now, and it only took a few years 
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Tesseraction posted:They did this in New York and in Texas, and whether truthfully or by cherry picking it was in deeply homophobic Texas the majority of the diners stepped in and said that wasn't how you act around people, while the New Yorkers minded their own business. Unfortunately when living in a big city you see similar poo poo all the time and given the odds of getting attacked are much higher in an urban environment, it's easier not to get involved as it can easily escalate the situation. Similarly, when I lived outside London I'd sling beggars a couple of quid now and then, but now I see at least 5 beggars a day and I feel helpless to help any of them, so I don't give change anymore. I did run a sponsored race a raised a few hundred for a homelessness charity though.  Re crying: I only cry when I watch Disney movies / other kids movies
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Tesseraction posted:Honestly if Labour don't win next week (or get a decent enough number in a hung parliament) then I'll probably just give up on socialism being achieved in the UK democratically. I'm outta the UK early next year, which I feel very privileged to be able to do. If Labour lose I'm not coming back unless something forces my hand. E: In 1962 the Great Leap For ward's war against bedbugs and other pests was called off due to unforseen ecological impacts, including plagues of locusts. Purple Prince fucked around with this message at 10:09 on Dec 5, 2019 |
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Braggart posted:gently caress the RP hegemony. Let's hear from the downtrodden. The funny thing is almost nobody speaks RP and English is not even a standardised language, so RP being held up as some sort of standard is pure class warfare.
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gh0stpinballa posted:i agree if the tories win next week i am more or less done with electoral politics entirely tbh. if they win it demonstrates the british public are hosed, so i'm a ghost at that point, i'm moving somewhere else. gently caress em all. If this happens then I think people in the UK should start building alternative institutions to the state, since the bourgeois state is clearly not a functional democracy, and hopefully in time develop stronger communities around socialist institutions than those of the current state.
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a pipe smoking dog posted:Yeah anyone who has been to a branch meeting knows that every one has a weird old anti-semite (they are usually also the branch's legacy tankie) For some unknown reason Brent North CLP takes a hard line on these things
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Politically Homeless: Actual Conservative The current Conservatives are actuallh the Reactionary Party
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VideoGames posted:He says colour. He does. This is infuriating. I heard calen', which to me sounds like he started saying "colour", changed course partway, and slurred out talent.
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OwlFancier posted:Me, the libcom tweetman, to the homeless guy "have you tried not letting the rulers tell you what to do?" Doubly funny because as the Private Eye never tires of pointing out, some of the most hardcore 'legacy' ancoms and Stalinists are legit aristocrats.
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Continuing my gambling habit by putting £15 on a hung parliament at 3.6 odds. If Labour end up with a majority I'll be happy despite losing the cash.
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The Question IRL posted:L-l-l-l-l-look at you, worker. A pa-pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone. (panting and) Panting and sweating as you r-r-run through my corridors. (How, how) How can you challenge a perfect, immortal machine? Priti Patel bid for next Conservative Leadership going well I see
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Giant boozy party at my co-working space tonight so I can count some non voters... Luckily 70% are likely Tory / Liberals
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gently caress this country. I spent my childhood surrounded by inbred Tories who thought they were better than everyone because they had a couple of quid to rub together, and now those people are running the country for the foreseeable future. Snapped at a Tory earlier and called him nonce supporting wall fodder. I'm out of this country next year and I don't think I will come back. What kind of loving country dangles hope in front of your collective faces only to snatch it away? It's happened every time I've had hope in my loving life. Consider me radicalised.
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Apparatchik Magnet posted:Congrats to the Tories, I’m looking forward to Brexit and the UK’s future role as a more direct adjunct of the US. Dollarization when? Looking forward to writing an article about why the culture of the US should never have been allowed to exist and why George IV was right. Oh right, that's not very funny, is it?
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Apparatchik Magnet posted:Brits looking down in the US is always funny. The colonialists can do one whether they're British or American
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Beefeater1980 posted:The forces of reaction are obviously very strong, and its looking like we can’t beat them in a straight fight. It has to come as a surprise at the last minute like in 2017, or we need to outflank them by looking less radical so we don’t trigger a full response like we had this time. At this point the democratic solution looks a bit stale, don't you think? If the majority of the population are wrong and easily manipulated, democracy is the problem.
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Beefeater1980 posted:Yeah but what’s the fix? If the masses won’t vote left they won’t fight for the left in the streets. They’ll fight for the right, with the state and its security apparatus on their side. You don't need the masses on your side to take control of the political process, as the right knows and the left should go back to exploiting following this result.
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I thought I'd feel better this morning but I feel worse if anything. It's like that moment in a WW2 film where we realise that actually our heroes are hosed, and despite all the pluck and integrity, they will be executed by the Nazi firing squad without being rescued. (Or, see The Bridge) My family will be worse off under the Tories and I'm worried my mother (precariat in social housing) may end up homeless. I'm worried about my sister who is still in university and looks set to have even less of a hope than I did on graduating. And I'm scared for my partner (not from the EU) who is likely to see even more racism as a result of this election, and even more barriers to ever living in the UK. The only person who might come out of a Tory government okay out of the people I care most about... is me. So I feel responsible for the lives of those three women, to different extents, and I know the government is going to do everything it can to destroy the lives of my loved ones. Purple Prince fucked around with this message at 10:33 on Dec 13, 2019 |
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Really wondering how big the brain drain caused by Brexit will be. I'm leaving, I know other young people who've left, and this result is only going to boost those numbers.
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I mean going full authcom does look pretty tempting by now.
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England! England! Patriotism! And you wonder why kids want to die for religion? It goes, work all your life for a pittance Maybe you’ll make it to manager, pray for a raise Cross the beige days off on your beach babe calendar The anarchists are desperate for something to smash Scandalous pictures of fashionable rappers In glamorous magazines, who’s dating who? Politico cash in an envelope Caught sniffing lines off a prostitutes prosthetic tits Now it's back to the house of lords with slapped wrists They abduct kids and gently caress the heads of dead pigs But him in a hoodie with a couple of spliffs Jail him, he’s the criminal Jail him, he’s the criminal
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RockyB posted:Let's have some actual political analysis from juuuust before the election This is a Good Article describing Bad Things. Because this describes fascism perfectly.
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HJB posted:Is this how it's going to be now, poverty is a default state, any form of help is good optics. Tory ideology is that poverty is inevitable because society needs hierarchy and winners need losers. So... yes.
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