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Dec 1, 2019 17:35
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Failed Imagineer posted:I think it's one of the many accepted spellings - like Q/Kh/Gaddafi Yeah, Arabic doesn't romanise perfectly. As Gaius Aelius Gallus found out.
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Dec 1, 2019 20:05
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One thing I don't think we ever talked about in this thread was this very good New Yorker long read from last month about how the Economist magazine glued itself to the wrong side of history from day one.
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Dec 1, 2019 23:38
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Bit scary that Labour would apparently have to eat the entire Lib Dem vote to get level with the Tories.
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Dec 2, 2019 02:08
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Kill All Cops posted:When me mam died a few months back I think the overall costs were a little under 3k GBP, service, precession and cremation. Burials would've been almost double, if not more. I read an article shortly after booking the directors and found out Dundee is one of the costliest places to have a funeral, but since my Dad wanted a good send off for her, price was never an issue That's a really wild expression of capitalism, for anyone not in the know. Got to get as many people attending your relative's funeral as possible, and the mafia runs the mortuary industry, so they've got strippers on discount.
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Dec 2, 2019 10:31
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VideoGames posted:Did anything interesting or weird happen last night not including the Queen death hoax? Could it have been used as a diversion? Just seems really weird such a tremendous rumour had SO much attention with no one outright denying it. The problem is that British journalism is atrophied and bad at social media. Something can go viral on WhatsApp and they just won't notice it. https://twitter.com/rachaelkrishna/status/1201272851313176580?s=21
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Dec 2, 2019 10:55
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Gonzo McFee posted:https://twitter.com/nickcohen4/status/1201430125612609536 Don't think a guy called Cohen is a gentile.
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Dec 2, 2019 16:45
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Gonzo McFee posted:He had a Jewish grandfather and has been secular his entire life, he's cynically started to pick it up as an identity more recently though. TBF, 'guy called Cohen with a Jewish grandfather' does not sound like the safest person to be with literal Nazis on the march. Charlottesville was a big wake-up call for a lot of secular folks with Jewish ancestry.
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Dec 2, 2019 16:53
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Dec 3, 2019 17:22
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Barry Foster posted:He's got enough on his plate as we speak (articles of impeachment thing happening right now), and if he does bitch he'll bitch about now ex-best-friend Boris, which isn't helpful to us It will be helpful because the Tories have been talking about our great post-Brexit trade deal with the US. If Trump goes all 'I will watch, cackling, as your pathetic nation sinks into the waves' (or whatever that translates to in Trumpese), that's not great for them.
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Dec 4, 2019 16:20
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Deketh posted:Slag off Hannibal next, history buffs! A massive step down from Silence of the Lambs.
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Dec 4, 2019 22:42
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stev posted:Shy tories Be fair, some of them are shy Lib Dems who believe that we don't necessarily have to say goodbye to that nice Mr. Macron to start looting the country.
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Dec 5, 2019 17:32
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Debbie Does Dagon posted:So I'm taking to someone who just tried to use Corbyn scrapping the married tax allowance as a gotcha, because it'll affect lower income couples. Any advice on what to reply with? They're not scrapping it, they're expanding it to other couples (civil partnerships and the like). It's a broader tax break, not a narrower one.
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Dec 7, 2019 15:21
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Holy poo poo, we've got a live one. https://twitter.com/jewishpeacock/status/1203331846303633408?s=21 https://twitter.com/jewishpeacock/status/1203370362626609152?s=21
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Dec 7, 2019 19:18
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RockyB posted:Johnson has just said that "You have to ask if [the TV license] still makes sense in the modern era" The higher-ups backing the Tories don't care about the BBC as an organisation. They care about their own careers, which will likely be lucrative. Why the hell would you expect workforce solidarity from Tories?
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Dec 9, 2019 15:20
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Tomberforce posted:Has anyone got any better strategies for dealing with patronising Tory family members telling me that I don't remember the 70s and the 3 day week and that I should never vote Labour as a consequence? The three-day week happened under Ted Heath's Conservative government, which single-handedly broke the postwar economic model over its knee by cutting taxes during a bubble in order to inflate it further and keep the government running based on the revenue from that. When the bubble popped, the massively overexposed British economy went down with it and they'd cut too many revenue-generators to repair state services. They proceeded to start cutting government workers' salaries to control inflation (which was rising due to the now-popped cheap oil bubble raising costs across the country), and because they were in the middle of a financial crash, this made those workers very, very angry - they'd suddenly gone from lovable wages to unlivable ones. Basically, the Seventies were mainly the fault of a Tory paedophile's hubris.
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Dec 10, 2019 13:53
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Braggart posted:Yeah, using 2015 youth turnout in a model is just stupid and this carries very hopeful implications for our vote share. I think the only logic by which it makes sense is that Dec 12th is a bad day for students and young workers, which will suppress the youth turnout a little.
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Dec 11, 2019 10:40
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Necrothatcher posted:Why is Dec 12th a bad day? Leaving day at a bunch of universities, and Christmas party day for a bunch of workers.
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Dec 11, 2019 11:26
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I mean, if you're a teenager and your dad's a crime lord, I can see why you might not want to rock the boat.
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Dec 11, 2019 12:27
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lol, Oborne finally completing his reverse RCP manoeuvre.
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Dec 11, 2019 20:18
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Bobby Deluxe posted:That's the thing, we need a manifesto that suckers in the melts and then day one 'oh no we accidentally put an extra zero on the end of the corporate tax lol" The melts appear to have largely stuck with Labour as much as they were going to. It was the advent of naked far-right fascism that peeled votes away. Don't look at a country that's rejected sensible moderation in favour of blatant racist scam artistry and pretend that appearing to be sensible moderates would help in any meaningful way. The media's made it clear what it believes acceptable thought to be, and it's not something that any usefully left-wing party could plausibly imitate. Our only remaining hope is to tap into the anger of all those hosed over by the Tories and go for the throat - but to be honest, I'm not sure that British democracy is going to survive this in any useful state. We're heading straight for a catastrophic loss of sovereignty in a period of global crisis. This is really loving bad.
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Dec 13, 2019 02:37
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Beefeater1980 posted:Yeah but what’s the fix? If the masses won’t vote left they won’t fight for the left in the streets. They’ll fight for the right, with the state and its security apparatus on their side. You think they're going to accept our surrender. That's cute.
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Dec 13, 2019 02:38
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Remember that 406 constituencies voted Leave and 242 voted Remain. This is just those results finally translating into a general election.
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Dec 13, 2019 03:06
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Yeah, at this point, I'm prepared to say that the Labour leadership badly miscalculated this election, but it was in the same way that the centrist melts miscalculated it. They got too fussed about holding on in Remain seats when Leave seats had always been enough for someone to get a government majority.
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Dec 13, 2019 03:11
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Yeah, the next few years will be entirely about making sure that the British public can't hurt the Tories for loving them over. This is not a party with any serious interest in democracy.
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Dec 13, 2019 03:24
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Illuminti posted:You will be shocked to learn that virtually every voter does not think they are voting for ethnic cleansing. But I'm sure you also think all those voters are consciously racist, stupid and violent. They may not think that, but that is what they're voting for? What, we can't try to persuade people by pointing out the other guys' actual policies?
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Dec 13, 2019 04:01
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Illuminti posted:They might be voting for something completely different mate. And they also might not consider stopping travellers setting up wherever they want as ethnic cleansing. But it is, and it's part of the package they're voting for, even if it's not their top priority. It is the functional result of their vote. Why not bring it up, if that is the case?
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Dec 13, 2019 04:10
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It's going to be fascinating to see what the Lib Dem take from this election ends up being.
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Dec 13, 2019 04:46
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Ahdinko posted:Well if it was *just* because of Brexit, they'd vote Brexit party because their manifesto consists of pretty much Brexit, and scrapping HS2. And I cant believe that there are that many people who are putting their vote on a train line. BXP only showed up in Labour seats. The Conservatives has free reign.
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Dec 13, 2019 04:53
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Dec 13, 2019 05:34
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unwantedplatypus posted:Things are bad. However right now you are catastrophizing, please take care of yourself. His wife's an EU citizen. You know, the people Boris Johnson literally said we're treating the U.K. atop much like their home. Not the best tack to take there, chief.
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Dec 13, 2019 06:07
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Beefeater1980 posted:Ideal would be tall, media-friendly and left Way too many folks ITT obsessed with finding the optimal strategy in a rigged game.
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Dec 13, 2019 06:09
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Absurd Alhazred posted:How does not needing the DUP for a majority change things with respect to NI? Does it make a unification referendum more or less likely? Please stop assuming the Conservatives are interested in democracy.
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Dec 13, 2019 06:12
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Ms Adequate posted:It is, and nobody knows. Brown got the same treatment, Miliband got the same treatment (With a healthy side order of anti-semitism lol), Corbyn got the same treatment. Thing is it didn't seem to stick much in 2017 so, why now? Was it legitimately Corbyn, was it the smears against Corbyn, the manifesto, did we get hosed by Brexit and absent that would have, if not stormed it, at least done decently? The centrist melts got hammered too. They're only ever a transitional stage to full fascism.
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Dec 13, 2019 06:17
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Kokoro Wish posted:Man, as much I was on board for thinking it was wise to play the referendum, second vote card, I definitely feel like capitulating on the Brexit result at all cost them dearly. I always said that this referendum was not non-binding at all, but I thought giving people a second say was smart. No, Labour should probably has stuck to the result and worked their own Brexit plan, none of the waffle. The people had already spoken as far as alot in the Labour heartlands were concerned and their position served them not at all. The current election map looks a lot like the post-Brexit constituency map. You go hardline Remain, you're jettisoning a huge majority of seats.
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Dec 13, 2019 06:25
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Dec 13, 2019 23:32
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goddamnedtwisto posted:A future relationship with freedom of movement (Norway+? I legit can't remember which dumb loving name they had for it) honours the GFA. Yeah, but that's a small enough Brexit that it doesn't have much in the way of Lexity selling points.
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Azza Bamboo posted:If the conservative win inspires charity how do we prevent "well oiled society" type thinking. In the US the presidency has also put out the idea that it should be charities, not the state, that solve problems as a defence of capitalism. Put Labour's label on it instead. Brand the gently caress out of it.
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