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Sanitary Naptime
May 29, 2006

MIWK!


hitchensgoespop posted:

All the presenters on GMB wearing black :tinfoilhat:

Don’t do this to me while I’m stuck in work

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Sanitary Naptime
May 29, 2006

MIWK!


Junior G-man posted:

loving christ, that'll make visiting the in-laws an absolute ball-ache.

Jo Swinson will have a tough time going on holiday with all that squirrel murder under her belt, no wonder she hates brexit

Sanitary Naptime
May 29, 2006

MIWK!


Gruffalo Soldier posted:

Hola fellow Labour enthusiasts.

My wife went through the Labour manifesto and tagged every point by topic, which we then loaded into a web app for easy navigation and sharing. Hopefully it will be helpful for anyone sharing the information out to people.

Check it out - https://forthemanyfesto.co.uk/

I’ve asked the podcast twitter lot to plug it too!

Sanitary Naptime
May 29, 2006

MIWK!


https://twitter.com/diaspora_is_red/status/1201347934572298242

Posting from the discord because lmao :discourse:

Sanitary Naptime
May 29, 2006

MIWK!


Azza Bamboo, I’ve PMd you!

Sanitary Naptime
May 29, 2006

MIWK!


Azza Bamboo posted:

They mean when the internet was all about business opportunity and the common person had to shut up and digest the papes because the dream of owning a ferrari, flying concorde, and being invited to the executive lounge where suited men smoked cigars on their buttoned green leather chairs lit by brass lanterns hanging over oil paintings on the wall was real. Normal as in when you could tell people that they were going to have a house, a car, a safety net to support them, and they'd be able to do it with less tax and less regulation because the internet is real. Normal as in a time before we had to hear about austerity, poverty, the local effects of international conflict, where we could just throw out our hands and

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Actually, the song is Things Can Only Get Better

Sanitary Naptime
May 29, 2006

MIWK!


marktheando posted:

Maybe

Well they won't be the largest party but maybe Corbyn could be PM in a minority government

:wrong:

an_mutt posted:

https://twitter.com/SamTarry/status/1202670973713031168?s=20

lmao my goodness

(Tarry is the current Labour candidate for Gapes's seat)

Actual Labour candidates using Reel Politik shitposting as agitprop is my personal favourite thing to happen so far this year

Sanitary Naptime
May 29, 2006

MIWK!


big scary monsters posted:

This week's WDTAW has Huw specifically referencing Brown Moses defending himself over the "Russia did the American trade deal leaks" story on SA. There might be sinister political extremists watching us right here in this very thread! :tinfoil:

Huw, come on the pod

Firos posted:

My partner wrote a blogpost about what a Labour government would mean to the disabled, and it'd be cool if you could all have a look.

This was spot on and pass on, if she’s happy for it we can get it retweeted from the pod account?

Sanitary Naptime
May 29, 2006

MIWK!


Evening folks!

As most of you should be aware by now, the podcast crew is running an alternative election night stream so you don't feel like you're alone in laughing at Laura K as her world dissolves around her.

The details are in the OP, but it'll be at http://twitch.tv/praxiscast from 21:30 on Thursday night until either we're content we know how it's going, or nobody is sober enough to continue the stream.

TONIGHT at 8 there will be a meeting about the livestream to try and gauge how many people we'll have on, plan out some stuff and take ideas from any of you that might want to get involved, so join us on the discord (link in OP) from 8!

BONUS

We'll also be doing a watchalong of Labour: The Summer That Changed Everything aka, The melts kick themselves in the dicks repeatedly.

Join us!

Sanitary Naptime
May 29, 2006

MIWK!


TACD posted:

Every time I log into Discord I get angry and confused because there are so many channels. Why does just the UK Goons Discord need like 20 different channels organised into three separate categories? :corsair:

I mean I will definitely be there on Thursday but I'll also be in the one IRC channel that's worked fine for us all these years thank you very much. Don't see why you young'uns got to make everything all fancy and flashy with your GIFs and emotes and whatnot.

There'll be a twitch chat too grandad

Sanitary Naptime
May 29, 2006

MIWK!


Chuka Umana posted:

Voice group chat. We need 30 people yelling over each other

With discord, anything is possible.

e: lmao that guardian bit

Sanitary Naptime
May 29, 2006

MIWK!


Sharrow posted:

The entire run has been good but y'all have been absolutely crushing it lately, esp. the last three episodes. :love:

<3



I can’t thank all of you enough for all of the support with the pod. It’s taken up so much of my time that I’ve got barely anything done in the way of canvassing, so I hope the pod was able to, if not outright change the mind of someone directly, help one of you out in a jam with a bit of knowledge while you were canvassing.

I don’t know that we’re really in a position to say we’re actually making successful agitprop but I’d say that this is the closest thing we’ve managed to it yet.

Sanitary Naptime fucked around with this message at 10:49 on Dec 11, 2019

Sanitary Naptime
May 29, 2006

MIWK!


Sharrow posted:

The entire run has been good but y'all have been absolutely crushing it lately, esp. the last three episodes. :love:

<3



I can’t thank all of you enough for all of the support with the pod. It’s taken up so much of my time that I’ve got barely anything done in the way of canvassing, so I hope the pod was able to, if not outright change the mind of someone directly, help one of you out in a jam with a bit of knowledge while you were canvassing.

I don’t know that we’re really in a position to say we’re actually making successful agitprop but I’d say that this is the closest thing we’ve managed to it yet.

Sanitary Naptime fucked around with this message at 11:26 on Dec 11, 2019

Sanitary Naptime
May 29, 2006

MIWK!


https://twitter.com/sanitarynaptime/status/1204731074389200897?s=21

Sanitary Naptime
May 29, 2006

MIWK!


Alan G posted:

If its going out on twitch I assumed someone would be screensharing polls, graphs, pics of humiliation for loser IDS/jo;/etc, confused Stephen Kinnock etc?

It absolutely will be visual!

Sanitary Naptime
May 29, 2006

MIWK!


Reminder that we’ll be live at 2130 GMT at http://twitch.tv/praxiscast for election coverage where you listen to Keunnsberg and tories get dunked on rather than hearing them verbally poo poo!

Join us, there will also be twitch chat, live Comment or Commentariat and a full rotating cast throughout the night to enjoy the demise of so many people at the hands of a red wave

Sanitary Naptime
May 29, 2006

MIWK!


Polls are not necessarily truth. If you’re still up and game for it, join us on twitch at http://twitch.tv/praxiscast, where the coverage isn’t blackpilled and we’re keeping the hope alive.

We’re all together in this, and hope is never dead.

Solidarity forever, comrades.

Sanitary Naptime
May 29, 2006

MIWK!


https://twitter.com/sanitarynaptime/status/1205376232789024768?s=21

Sanitary Naptime
May 29, 2006

MIWK!


Hi everyone!

Sorry for the absence, I took a bit of time off from politics after the election because it's shite and i hate it, and then it turned into christmas etc, but I should be back itt properly just after the new year.

We've got a dumb and fun podcast episode planned (hopefully releasing on Wednesday if i've got the time, otherwise later this week if all goes to plan tomorrow) and then another little 2019 awards show. Once that's all done, it should be back to regular pod episodes :)

Sanitary Naptime
May 29, 2006

MIWK!


Darth Walrus posted:

Nationalism is simply prioritising the interests of your nation - or, to put it another way, the people you are responsible for as a national government. In a democratic society, it's simply a sales pitch that your policies will make your society better. If we cede that basic concept to far-right blood-and-soil psychos, then we've definitely lost. We're also probably going to lobby much more aggressively for British interests after Brexit, on the grounds that our international protections will be gone and a lot of foreign vultures (America, China, our old friends in the EU, you name it) will be coming for us. The next Labour government, if it can be elected, will have a much greater duty of care in a much more hostile world.

I’m pretty sure you’ve confused duty of care and responsibility of a political party in a system of the nation state with a political ideology which functions based on the othering of another group based on an arbitrary trait.

Sanitary Naptime
May 29, 2006

MIWK!


baka kaba posted:

good to see you back buddy

also rip Mike G

Miwk is eternal.

Darth Walrus posted:

Othering is simply how the right pretends it is maintaining its duty of care to its citizens - by treating foreigners even worse than it treats them. Again, the idea that nationalism is racism depends on the ugly notion that racism helps your citizenry, while equality and social justice hurts them. Equality is not a zero-sum game, no matter what the weird TERF in my CLP says.

No, the entire basis of the nation state in itself is a form of othering. That arbitrary trait doesn’t need to be a racial or religious characteristic, living on the wrong side of a map line is enough to say “you don’t deserve good things” if you’re trying to keep the blood and soil out of it (good luck maintaining that for long).

radmonger posted:

Well, you could use the word patriotism for the former and nationalism for the latter. If instead you use patriotism for the latter, do you even have a word left to describe the thing you do want?

Unnamed concepts have a hard time winning votes.

Both of them are, on a functional level to individual people, pride in belonging to a nationstate. You can pick apart the subtle differences academically and say “well actually”, but if the functional practices of them on the electorate are the same then it’s dumb as gently caress to try and co-opt them.

What I want is socialism, what you’re wanting is a cure for those brain worms you’ve spent all year vomiting through the thread.

Sanitary Naptime
May 29, 2006

MIWK!


OwlFancier posted:

I am willing to see where RLB goes with it but she's going to need other ideas than just corbynism with millibandian characteristics.

It’s the slide towards blue labour that the language risks that worries me the most.

Azza Bamboo posted:

Let's get down to the nitty gritty of a winning strategy then. Who do we need to turn and where to make up the seats for a parliament? The Tories got it spot on with their laser focus on "Workington Man" and Labour Leave seats. Surely given our huge defeat we now have a wide choice of battlegrounds and demographics to target and actually work on.

Or are we not doing that and just going for a manifesto and marketing for that manifesto that the membership likes regardless of how it'll do?

Either of these are valid but at the moment it seems like whenever the discussion goes to strategy people argue against on moral grounds and then the moment people start arguing about morality people oppose based on strategic grounds and I want to say "which of the two conversations are we having? Pick one or forever have this go round in circles."

The next election is five years away, there’s no point thinking along the lines of tactical electoralism just now, what’s required is extra parliamentary work setting up a labour presence that’s visible and involved in communities across the country to build up a trust base that’s directly involved in people’s lives. That’ll do way more than triangulating the racism prism.

Sanitary Naptime
May 29, 2006

MIWK!


It’s not as hopeless as all that unless we’re intent on only engaging with parliament and nothing else. Community activism and interaction is going to be a key element over the next five years, and with the right framing could lead to a massive victory.

Exposing people to effective left wing policy works, and the only way we can do this is outside of the electoral system. The fragmentation of the left has been less of an issue the last few years, and a lot of extraparliamentary groups have been willing to work with labour and for a labour victory, if the leadership election goes well, I don’t see that collapsing, so we still have a large base to work with.

Sanitary Naptime
May 29, 2006

MIWK!


Kill Jester 2019

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Sanitary Naptime
May 29, 2006

MIWK!


Happy new year to all of you wonderful people. Thanks for making this hellworld more tolerable, and here’s to somehow getting our hands on the cosmic levers to steer some of the misery onto the right.

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