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Beard Dandruff
May 10, 2017

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SorePotato posted:

i never have to leave my apartment or stop playing video games and the almighty State sends humble workers to change my diaper every few days

Also bethesda looses the right to make more fallout games.

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gh0stpinballa
Mar 5, 2019

people leave me alone is my big one, that's a deal breaker for me

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

all white cishet males and Boomers are genocided down to a single man

a strict eugenics regime ensures the revolution

everyone joins arms in unison and sings in perfect harmony

That Robot
Sep 16, 2004

ask me anything about robots
Buglord
free cannabis on demand

Calibanibal
Aug 25, 2015

That Robot posted:

free cannabis on demand

there's only so much of me to go around :wink:

Trabandiumium
Feb 20, 2010

it's just The Culture, op

upgunned shitpost
Jan 21, 2015

ritchie hawtin put on a rave in an old meatpacking plant back in the nineties. there were these sheets of plastics hanging from the former meathooks, parallel to the floor that would rise and lower over the course of the night, with a smoke machine and lasers shining through them. the lasers would fragment and fractal, your brain would absolutely get lost in them and it was seriously difficult to tell up from down at some points. there was also punch filled with acid and molly. so pretty much that, all the time.

I'd also like some zoos for libertarians and conservatives, so little children can learn what wrong think is while throwing fruit at the caged morons.

Koishi Komeiji
Mar 30, 2003




This except no cops and weed is free.

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

all of the intelligence, the creative capacity, the industrial output, the hopes, the dreams, are mobilized to convert the stellar mass of the planet into a giant nug of weed

IWW Online Branch
Apr 20, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo
The barbaric practice of circumcision is at last abolished.

Autism Sneaks
Nov 21, 2016
pretend I found the link to the GBS thread about the island of otherkin in cybernetic dragon bodies

Mayor Dave
Feb 20, 2009

Bernie the Snow Clown

Trabandiumium posted:

it's just The Culture, op

Unbelievably Fat Man
Jun 1, 2000

Innocent people. I could never hurt innocent people.


For a start we need to do away with the United States federal government. I think it would be prudent to run different autonomous areas along different political lines so as to test and experiment with different political forms.

In general, what I want is low level local control, with workplaces organized along democratic means. The power of higher levels of organization would be extremely restricted. And any kind of organizing type job would be a giant pain in the rear end with limited power, no prestige, and lots of pain in the rear end work. This is designed against bad actors trying to attain power for it's own sake. Important decisions will be made by voluntary caucuses of workers held intermittently,

Food, housing, transportation, education and healthcare are provided for everyone.

Much of the economy would be dedicated to transforming the economy to be less damaging to the planet... building energy efficient housing, sustainable agriculture, public transportation infrastructure, recycling existing electronics into new consumer goods. The point is to restrict energy use in comfortable parts of the world, so that that energy can be decreased in aggregate and we can create an energy deficit large enough to allow less comfortable parts of the world to increase their standards of living.

Public safety would be taken care of by squads of first responders, made up of medical workers, fire safety workers and unarmed community mediators. These community mediators are not cops. They do not enforce the law. Their mission is to keep people safe. They are trained heavily in deescalation and counseling people dealing with trauma. If someone is having a mental health crisis and has hurt someone or is likely to hurt someone they can work with the medical workers to bring them to somewhere they can receive mental healthcare. If someone is hurt then these first responders will have resources to keep them safe.

The justice system is set up to seek restorative justice, not carceral punishment. If someone has a pattern of abuse or behavior which is actively dangerous to themselves or society they can be remitted to a mental healthcare facility where the doctors will treat them.

Finally, for the criminals of the old world, for the.masters of capital and the rest of the ruling class and their lap dogs, they cannot be trusted to integrate into this new society. The solution to them is to place them in what were prisons in the old world, the one difference being they are wired up with a ludicrous amount of cameras, way way more than exist in current prisons, every angle imaginable. They are given the absolute bare resources necessary to survive and not a pea more. Then, they are the big show. Their beefs, their schemes, their betrayals; incredible television. They are closely monitored and the most trusted revolutionary soldiers are tasked with keeping them contained in these capitalist cultural reserves for the entertainment of the masses.

IWW Online Branch
Apr 20, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

Autism Sneaks posted:

pretend I found the link to the GBS thread about the island of otherkin in cybernetic dragon bodies

https://thefpl.us/episode/69

100 HOGS AGREE
Oct 13, 2007
Grimey Drawer
Twitter, Facebook and Amazon are nationalized and subsequently dismantled. Jack, Zucc and Bezos are sentenced to eat the very servers their garbage ran on, until they expire.

Autism Sneaks
Nov 21, 2016

:tipshat:

VideoTapir
Oct 18, 2005

He'll tire eventually.
ive been reading culture novels in order, and im done through inversions. i don't recall any casual incest. did iain m banks go elderly perv scifi writer near the end or something?

D.Ork Bimboolean
Aug 26, 2016

I actually get to play D&D.

angerbot
Mar 23, 2004

plob
Everyone is gay but crime is no longer necessary

Autism Sneaks
Nov 21, 2016

VideoTapir posted:

ive been reading culture novels in order, and im done through inversions. i don't recall any casual incest. did iain m banks go elderly perv scifi writer near the end or something?

iirc it's the protagonist of The Player of Games, but my copy is sitting in a box in storage

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Autism Sneaks posted:

iirc it's the protagonist of The Player of Games, but my copy is sitting in a box in storage

Yeah there's a throwaway line in Player of Games about it. It's not exactly a common thing, it just happens and it's not a big deal.

Mayor Dave
Feb 20, 2009

Bernie the Snow Clown
Player of Games has a similar aside about murder being fully legal in the Culture, the consequences of murder are limited to ostracism

mandatory lesbian
Dec 18, 2012
you are dead, i am dead, humanity is no more, the animals roam free, our buildings slowly crumble to dust

god is in his heaven and all is right with the world

Farm Frenzy
Jan 3, 2007

Mayor Dave posted:

Player of Games has a similar aside about murder being fully legal in the Culture, the consequences of murder are limited to ostracism
i'm not sure if it's possible to be non-consensually murdered in the culture outside or wartime

Mayor Dave
Feb 20, 2009

Bernie the Snow Clown

Farm Frenzy posted:

i'm not sure if it's possible to be non-consensually murdered in the culture outside or wartime

Nah you can totally be murdered but the minds can fully resurrect you at will so it doesn't really matter in the end

The comment was in the context of the culture equivalent to a DNR tho

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Mayor Dave posted:

Player of Games has a similar aside about murder being fully legal in the Culture, the consequences of murder are limited to ostracism

It's been a few years since I've read it, but wasn't the punishment for murder like everybody knows you're a murderer and you have to be chaperone'd by an AI all the time?

smarxist
Jul 26, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
Mostly what I think is that we're too crushingly alienated from valuable production that creates our lives, and have little to no say in what is created with our labor, because of how diluted it is.

Is there any discussion at all about a kind of production balkanization w/ advanced technologies and automation making sustainable local /regional production of most commodities/food realistic or even better than what's going on now? I know for a fact that because of the profit motive we sacrifice huge amounts of cheap resources and poo poo up the environment to facilitate our stratified production schemes (where material is gathered, versus where it's turned into a resource versus where it's tooled/cut/machined versus where its assembled versus where its sold), so even if more regional production required a bit more labor and people involved, at least it's good productive work that provides for your community?

Every city and population center is the same homogeneous bullshit that actively resists cultural growth from the ground up by the people that live in it, and that lack of personal connection to the community and the infrastructure just makes everyone tune the gently caress out of that aspect of life. I mean yeah, I guess you could get involved in local politics/civics if you're privileged enough to have the time/energy/money, but most people don't and even if they could don't get to do much in the way of meaningful decision making.

Obviously I don't want to "till the land", at least not without a John Deere, but there's so much space and so much of everything, I want people to be able to go outside the lines and create/collaborate/commune with each other in ways that fulfill them without needing to be a millionaire with a hunk of "owned land" to do it, and obviously that requires the abolition of private property and land/rent rights, and that requires a revolution soooooooooooooooooooo

Mayor Dave
Feb 20, 2009

Bernie the Snow Clown

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

It's been a few years since I've read it, but wasn't the punishment for murder like everybody knows you're a murderer and you have to be chaperone'd by an AI all the time?

I don't remember the ai bit but yes, one of the characters says something about not getting invited to any parties as if that's a fate worse than death

Autism Sneaks
Nov 21, 2016
yeah in Player it's mentioned you get a sub-sentient drone as your floating ankle-monitor that keeps you from doing more murder, though in Excession Dajeil and the Sleeper Service agree she can go into a self-imposed hermitage upon them (all their other passengers are in suspended animation that are used in historical reenactment tableaux)

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




i want everybody to have a bed and a meal and nobody to have as much of those things as an entire continent of people has cause it makes them an evil pervert when it occurs

Tuxedo Catfish
Mar 17, 2007

You've got guts! Come to my village, I'll buy you lunch.
The Culture also isn't entirely aspirational, to be fair. The running theme of the entire series is "the Culture does an imperialism, fucks up, actually manages to make things worse even though their goals were nominally ethical."

e: It's also heavily implied that beings as advanced as Culture Minds would normally transcend to a higher plane of existence and leave mortal species alone, and that the Culture as a whole are basically a bunch of condescending perverts for sticking around to meddle with things they don't approve of instead of letting people work things out for themselves.

It's a nice place to live, and most regular people in the Culture are happy to just live unremarkable lives of luxury and personal development, but the leadership are arrogant demigods playing at regime change.

Tuxedo Catfish has issued a correction as of 12:57 on Dec 14, 2019

Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3
Nov 15, 2003
When I need to edge the lawn I borrow one for free from the library because why the gently caress do I need to own and keep an edger I only use a couple times a year. Ditto for half of my possessions.

Maduo
Sep 8, 2006

You see all the colors.
All of them.


Over Easy posted:

It's star trek

this but only the parts with the Borg

a primate
Jun 2, 2010

co-ops everywhere

ur in my world now
Jun 5, 2006

Same as it ever was
Same as it ever was
Same as it ever was
Same as it ever was


Smellrose
it's chill

ikanreed
Sep 25, 2009

I honestly I have no idea who cannibal[SIC] is and I do not know why I should know.

syq dude, just syq!

Chill communism has never been tried

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByvXINerE_k&t=80s

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy
In all honesty here is my state. Major industries all under government supervision. Healthcare will of course be provided. Those who show signs at a young age of supporting old liberalism will be sent to special schools. Elections will be held but parties will be actively suppressed if they support liberalism. At age 17 all children will be engaged in a program for three years where they are taught basic weapons matinance, construction , agriculture and logistics.While also being used in a program to plant trees to reverse desertification and create a carbon sync. Infrastructure will be calibrated to building rail over roads and nuclear power plants fallowed by solar, tidal, and wind. There will be a slow reduction in ranching, and promotion people eating chicken over beef. With a campaign focused on meatless Monday’s. Small businesses will still be allowed but incentivized to become workers cooperatives through the tax system. Most major retail outlets will be broken up into regional hubs and handed over to workers and their remaining corporate government will emulate Mondragon. Farming will be promoted in school with a goal of breaking up now state owned major ag combines and turning them over to smallholders. College will be free, and there will be a purge of administration. Protestantism will definitely be suppressed, as it was the handmaiden of liberalism. Also. As I view a nuclear war in India caused by the RSS likely. Hindu temples that had strong RSS ties will be required to shut down. Sunni Mosques will be required to turn over and destroy any and all books that were donated by Saudi financed foundations. Masonry as it has a strong history of being a recruiting ground for the CIA as well as the means by which it undermined good countries will be outlawed. All major media companies will be broken up and the remains handed over to the workers. Also security services will launch a major investigation into the child abuse that the studio system covered up and encouraged with a goal of having state broadcaster giving extended coverage to the investigation. People will be limited to six hours a day of high speed internet. Also government will fund initiatives to promote municipal sports leagues and municipal video rentals. Municipalities are To be empowered to regulate the internet as they see fit. As well as encouraged to maintain local militias. One thing will be banned from municipalities. Golf. Finally Police will be eliminated. As instead police will be made up of elected positions voted by neighborhoods. Immigration enforcement will be a job of the Department of Justice with a promotion of accepting those who come from fellow Socialist countries and those that are refugees from capitalist countries second. Third comes general refugees. Customs will be arm of treasury. FEMA will be dept of interior.
There will be a security apparatus that will seek to destroy left over remains of mafias and that will seek out and suppress liberals like Chait, and Kevin Williamson. Liberals and bourgeois from the criminal class will be sent to gulags. Abroad the government will pursue a policy ofusing whatever means to eliminate bourgeois exiles who seek to actively undermine the government. All means will be used for this as the security of the state will be paramount. The military will have a policy of supporting revolution wherever it can. With a promotion of invasion of those places where revolutionary fervor is strongest. Policy towards China and Russia will be to promote state as an American synthesis of the American ideas and the great successes of China and Russia. Active hostility will be used in regards to The EU, and India. Also generally the Mid East will be treated as a no go zone.

Military will be funded at five percent gdp. With goal of unfortunate but necessary constant war against capitalists in Anglosphere and Hispanidad. With goal of liberation of all former countries there. Also military will fund space program with goal of securing near earth objects for resource gathering.

Crowsbeak has issued a correction as of 23:54 on Dec 15, 2019

IWW Online Branch
Apr 20, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo
A conversation that will happen in the early days of my utopia:

"I'd like to speak to your manager."

"There is no manager."

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Gringostar
Nov 12, 2016
Morbid Hound

IWW Online Branch posted:

A conversation that will happen in the early days of my utopia:

"I'd like to speak to your manager."

"There is no manager."

*gets led out to the guillotine*

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