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oh i see, ok i guess that I feel that jenkins is least bad? although it's still very bad.
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i used travis once and it seemed not awful but also seemed like it had too much magic in it
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my opinion on builds and configuration management generally is that if the entire rest of the earth is to suddenly turn to molten slag except for your office, and for some reason you still have power, you should be able to build and deploy normally. The thing where people rely on this host of third-party, off-prem services (github, npm, travis, etc) to simply build and deploy their own software is insane to me.
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Dec 11, 2019 19:36
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CRIP EATIN BREAD posted:i looked at ovh's CDS: https://ovh.github.io/cds/ which seems kinda cool but i've never heard of it before. generally i feel like wedging your Special Business Processes into someone elses Cool Framework after the fact is always gonna be a hassle and feel awkward honestly i feel like just rolling your own in this instance might not be the worst idea, but obvy i don't know your requirements. quote:i just need to be freed from this prison YOSPOS: i just need to be freed from this prison
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Dec 11, 2019 20:10
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Poopernickel posted:those that come after you they don't work here yet, i say gently caress 'em.
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Dec 11, 2019 20:24
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does anyone anywhere use groovy for anything that isn't jenkins? because i fuckin hate it.
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Dec 11, 2019 20:37
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Poopernickel posted:make is good make is good but running make on a remote machine is bad
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Dec 11, 2019 23:06
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for me its: an ant script gets triggered as a post-commit hook and emails me the results.
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Dec 11, 2019 23:14
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Zlodo posted:its not the seventies anymore grandpa and with that attitude it never will be.
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Do Not Fear Jazz posted:Yeah but it also makes collaboration really easy which is why it's so attractive yeah but collaboration implies there are other humans and as we all know this is a recipe for disaster
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yeah pipelines are pretty good if you have to have something like that
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Dec 12, 2019 04:56
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Gazpacho posted:Maven status: still bad
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Dec 12, 2019 20:24
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convention over configuration can suck my rear end
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Dec 12, 2019 20:46
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CRIP EATIN BREAD posted:write a bash script good advice imo
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Dec 12, 2019 21:37
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Kazinsal posted:just type "make clean all" and go get a coffee
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maven: complete garbage ant: still garbage, but at least you can read it to see what it's doing
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rotor posted:convention over configuration can suck my rear end
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compilers are good imo
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autotools is a necessary evil in some cases
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I don't think anyone is going to bat for how great autotools is but if you need to distribute software that compiles relatively easily on a wide range of hardware & software, I'm not reallly aware of a better solution.
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rotor posted:I'm not reallly aware of a better solution. Again, that doesn't mean it's good.
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wasm + wasi will replace docker, you heard it here first
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wabi-sabi? no, wasm-wasi.
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Gazpacho posted:it is though, because the purpose of a build system is to do what it's told and maven can't be told what to do
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dads friend steve posted:the purpose of a build system is to be better than rolling your own Frankenstein build process that’s probably going to be a bunch of shell scripts janitoring the file system, calling the compiler, etc. Some build systems, like maven, make the design decision to enforce a standard project layout and build pipeline, which is a perfectly valid choice until you have business requirements that make invalid.
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yeah thats a pretty common issue with an active single repo codebase. You can ameliorate the problem somewhat by being really dilligent about isolating common code but it's always gonna be a thing.
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animist posted:just use maven request denied, bitch
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