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moralism is a big problem of the left tho so even 'rich are scum' needs to be qualified
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why is it a problem that the rich are scum? surely everyone is scum etc etc etc
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Vitamin P posted:youve changed no *i* heartily believe the rich to be scum of the earth and literal harbingers of the apocalypse but it's very helpful to be able to formulate why non-scum rich people can exist without it disproving the central thesis that *wealth itself* is really hosed up and produces incredibly perverse outcomes. the moment one gets caught up in arguments based on a certain group being evil one is vulnerable to 'but X isn't evil!!!' which is really hard to counter. much easier to state that it's not really anybody's fault but much wants more etc of course many people have the correct instinct that the very rich are a bunch of hideous psychopaths, and that should be nurtured into fully fledged class consciousness, but that also needs to be proofed against a rich non-monstrous individual
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lenin also saw the need for strict collective responsibility, outward agreement to the central line, the need for robust internal discussion and complete political ruthlessness including a willingness to lie and oversimplify when necessary. we all long for a slogan like 'bread and peace'. a lot of leninists today are basically cultists, though, and like nothing more than to write thousands of words of esoteric jargon which one must fully comprehend lest one be condemned as a liberal or something. the same set tries to boycott elections etc and are also internally hugely dogmatic. it's a land of contrasts, to be sure V. Illych L. has issued a correction as of 15:43 on Dec 28, 2019 |
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