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BgRdMchne
Oct 31, 2011

Since I have been an adult I have always identified as a leftist. Since then I have been an anarchist, a socialist, a communist, ancom, ansoc, a democratic socialist, a Marxist, a Marxist-Leninist, a Trotskyist, a left-communist, a council-communist, a traditional Marxist, an orthodox Marxist, and a neo-Marxist, (at least I was never a Posadist, or a Hoxhaist) all without having a really firm understanding of exactly what I believe in and what all of these terms mean.

This is a thread to talk about the distinctions between various types of leftism and to try to figure out where you stand on the vast spectrum. It is a also a thread to argue about the best way to achieve revolution and what the best post-revolution worlld looks like. Hopefully it is also a thread about the process of the many types of leftists forming a stable coalition that can fight back against a united right with equally disparate and conflicting views.

Right now, I believe in freedom. I believe in universal justice. I believe in a free press and free speech. I believe in democracy. I am a leftist. I am a Marxist. I am an impossiblist; in the long-term capitalism is unsustainable. I am an internationalist, but I believe that different people have different needs and support self-determination. National socialist movements cannot sustain themselves. I think that socialist revolutions need to be tailored to an individual nations current situation and needs to succeed. Tailor made revolutions succeeded in the short term in Russia, China, and Cuba, but were unsustainable. In societies with limited class consciousness different strategies have worked. Vanguardism worked in Russia. Agrarian socialism worked in China. Guerrilla warfare worked in Cuba. Market socialism worked in Yugoslavia. All of them eventually failed. All turned away from democracy and towards authoritarianism. Russia and China turned into state capitalistic societies, and Cuba and Yugoslavia were sustained only by a cult of personality. They all failed due to a lack of international solidarity. The soviets could have thrived if a state in western Europpe had had a successful revolution between the world wars. The Chinese and the Yugoslavians could have thrived if they united against Stalinism. I can't see Cuba succeeding in the long run in any situation.

What kind of leftist am I if I'm a Marxist who believes in internationalism with democratic self-determination? What kind of leftist are you?

e: troupmh

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BgRdMchne
Oct 31, 2011


nice. seatle in '99 was the first time i was teargassed. i still don't believe that enough class consciousness to sustain a revolution can be obtained until the people see tha the limits of pure reform are not enough to achieve equality

BgRdMchne
Oct 31, 2011

DoubleDonut posted:

I'm a sorry art cop, OP

art cops always kind of pissed me off. a lot of media reinforces the status quo, but i've never seen how jazz is counterrevolutionary like adorno says

BgRdMchne
Oct 31, 2011

i still don't know if i shoudl join the sdp or the uscp or the dsa or the peoples front of judea or the juedeans peoples front

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