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kingcobweb
Apr 16, 2005
i'm not reading marx. i'm wahtever ideology is the kind who will Not read marx. he's boring

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kingcobweb
Apr 16, 2005

Ace of Baes posted:

read Marx, don't have to read capital but at least read the communist manifesto and socialism utopian and scientific, they're both short


https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/

https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1880/soc-utop/index.htm


everyone saying it doesn't matter what your ideology is is only half right, it is very easy to fall into liberalism if you don't know the basics, my personal theory to this is because anarchism, which is basically a form of liberalism, is inherently very appealing to Americans who have been indoctrinated to worship individualism and reject collectivism their entire life

wouldn’t be an ideology discussion without people talking poo poo about anarchism (a good ideology)

kingcobweb
Apr 16, 2005

Ace of Baes posted:

it's fine if you think liberalism and anarchism are "good", most people do, the average American loves the idea of a society of "free" individuals who pursue whatever their heart desires, and in a Utopian world I might even agree with them

your framing of anarchism as individualist rather than collectivist doesn’t have anything to do with the left-anarchist ideas that the anarchism-sympathetic people here believe in

kingcobweb
Apr 16, 2005

VROOM VROOM posted:

How many of you are the bearded middle-aged guy sitting across from me at the library, reading a book about Stalin and occasionally hrmming thoughtfully

i brought it to the DSA meetings and keep exclaiming “wow he sucks!! he sucks so bad!!! wow this guy is the worst” at the top of my lungs as I read it

kingcobweb
Apr 16, 2005

Clipperton posted:

what are the best books on organizing tactics. nuts and bolts stuff about how to get a union going on the local level

i tried to make a thread about nuts and bolts organizing but it didn’t take off :smith:

PM me if you want help

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