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The Sponge
Sep 15, 2006
Grimey Drawer
thinking about how microsoft managed to become cool before linux on the desktop became a thing. thanks satya!

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echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
I’ve used ubuntu to jerk off to porn, like well over a decade ago, I presume it can still do that

RustyKnight
Jul 11, 2016

every day is a new horror



If i get together with my poo poo and finally manage to build my new pc then i'll get a linux on my laptop, never used linux so wish me luck

Boner Buffet
Feb 16, 2006
windows home costs $139 on microsoft.com, so

The Management
Jan 2, 2010

sup, bitch?
I hear lots of Linux people saying the best linux desktop is WSL on windows. so I guess that’s technically a linux on your desktop

Best Bi Geek Squid
Mar 25, 2016

RustyKnight posted:

If i get together with my poo poo and finally manage to build my new pc then i'll get a linux on my laptop, never used linux so wish me luck

:ohdearsass:

Nomnom Cookie
Aug 30, 2009



The Management posted:

I hear lots of Linux people saying the best linux desktop is WSL on windows. so I guess that’s technically a linux on your desktop

yeah wsl is the best Linux. it’s real easy to turn off and go back to using a real os

Laslow
Jul 18, 2007
isn’t wsl’s io performance like laughably bad? like don’t you need like the bleeding edge alpha insider build for it to be close to acceptable? or has that changed since last i checked?

abigserve
Sep 13, 2009

this is a better avatar than what I had before
Docker for windows works for me op

Moo Cowabunga
Jun 15, 2009

[Office Worker.




Ubuntu, on my mobile phone???????

Cybernetic Vermin
Apr 18, 2005

Laslow posted:

isn’t wsl’s io performance like laughably bad? like don’t you need like the bleeding edge alpha insider build for it to be close to acceptable? or has that changed since last i checked?

i literally never noticed until nbsd made a bit of noise about it, but he was (rip) right that it is a pretty large slowdown (made into a huge slowdown if you have the wrong e.g. antivirus installed). for my, and i think *most*, usecases though it's plenty fast, and is an extremely convenient and compatible way to linux it up.

i am really pretty surprised that they didn't just abuse fuse and simulate a much faster block device, but i guess wsl2 just doing a light full virtualization amounts to the more complete way of doing this. i do find the loss of e.g. linux processes being equivalents to windows ones, networking being transparently on the same host, and so on, features which i presume will all be lost in wsl2.

Tankakern
Jul 25, 2007

why would you ruin your linux by running it on windows

can't fathom how people can stand windows 10 at all

yospos

The_Franz
Aug 8, 2003

Nomnom Cookie posted:

yeah wsl is the best Linux. it’s real easy to turn off and go back to using a real os

but wsl doesn't run on mac? :confused:

Sweevo
Nov 8, 2007

i sometimes throw cables away

i mean straight into the bin without spending 10+ years in the box of might-come-in-handy-someday first

im a fucking monster

i used linux once and i did not care for it

CRIP EATIN BREAD
Jun 24, 2002

Hey stop worrying bout my acting bitch, and worry about your WACK ass music. In the mean time... Eat a hot bowl of Dicks! Ice T



Soiled Meat
i only use windows to play games but my home desktop is just for games because its an OS for children

for getting real work done its all linux

Nomnom Cookie
Aug 30, 2009



The_Franz posted:

but wsl doesn't run on mac? :confused:

macos is a real os and so is windows

Nomnom Cookie
Aug 30, 2009



CRIP EATIN BREAD posted:

for getting real work done its all linux

that’s rough, I’m sorry

The Management
Jan 2, 2010

sup, bitch?

Tankakern posted:

why would you ruin your linux by running it on windows

can't fathom how people can stand windows 10 at all

yospos

windows desktop is bad but it works. Linux desktop is unmitigated garbage. I hope that explains it.

The_Franz
Aug 8, 2003

The Management posted:

windows desktop is bad but it works. Linux desktop is unmitigated garbage. I hope that explains it.

windows desktop is just bad now and getting worse. they've given up all pretenses of being anything but a bootloader for office and games

linux desktop is fine if you stick with red hat who make a supported product people actually use. if you want to go full on :spergin: with some custom hackjob poo poo you're on your own

CRIP EATIN BREAD
Jun 24, 2002

Hey stop worrying bout my acting bitch, and worry about your WACK ass music. In the mean time... Eat a hot bowl of Dicks! Ice T



Soiled Meat
i would use redhat if we wanted to pay for a support contract. otherwise we just run debian poo poo with gnome or i3 depending on what the devs want to use.

dougdrums
Feb 25, 2005
CLIENT REQUESTED ELECTRONIC FUNDING RECEIPT (FUNDS NOW)
Ya Linux desktop is good if you're using i3wm. Windows 10 and probably any other non tiling window manager is really frustrating to use coming from i3.

The_Franz
Aug 8, 2003

Cybernetic Vermin posted:

i literally never noticed until nbsd made a bit of noise about it, but he was (rip) right that it is a pretty large slowdown (made into a huge slowdown if you have the wrong e.g. antivirus installed). for my, and i think *most*, usecases though it's plenty fast, and is an extremely convenient and compatible way to linux it up.

it's not a problem if you just want wsl for a proper terminal

it's a big problem if you actually try to use it for real workloads

Kazinsal
Dec 13, 2011



dougdrums posted:

Ya Linux desktop is good if you're using i3wm. Windows 10 and probably any other non tiling window manager is really frustrating to use coming from i3.

i3 users should just get a pdp-11 and a whack of vt100s. they'd get the same experience and wouldn't be able to post on the internet about how good using the X equivalent of gnu screen is

The Management
Jan 2, 2010

sup, bitch?
linux is for servers. if you have linux on your desktop you’ve made a terrible mistake

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006

The Management posted:

linux is for servers. if you have linux on your desktop you’ve made a terrible mistake

its bad for servers too but yeah, lol @ people using ubuntu or fedora or osx on their desktops

Sweevo
Nov 8, 2007

i sometimes throw cables away

i mean straight into the bin without spending 10+ years in the box of might-come-in-handy-someday first

im a fucking monster

linux is for people who think it's still 1973 and that a computer is something you have to share with 400 other people

carry on then
Jul 10, 2010

by VideoGames

(and can't post for 10 years!)

Sweevo posted:

linux is for people who think it's still 1973 and that a computer is something you have to share with 400 other people

those are mainframers and they’re right

Best Bi Geek Squid
Mar 25, 2016

quote:

Why Aren't People Abandoning Windows for Linux?
...
I really don't know. I know I'm typing this from Windows, in a chrome browser. I have my reasons. Having been on slash since the beginning, this question is just never answered. It's almost like Incels asking, "Why can't I get laid?"

Nomnom Cookie
Aug 30, 2009



why am I using windows...I have no idea. every day I download a Slackware iso, burn it, reboot to install, then I black out for 15 minutes and the next thing I remember I’m back in windows, typing something in word. sometimes it’s excel or PowerPoint, but always an Office app

Soricidus
Oct 21, 2010
freedom-hating statist shill

Sweevo posted:

linux is for people who think it's still 1973 and that a computer is something you have to share with 400 other people

true. here in the 21st century, computers are for sharing with millions of other cloud users

real talk tho I hardly use linux on the desktop these days. macos at home, windows + cygwin at work, because I’m old and don’t want to learn wsl. obvs all the servers are linux tho

chestnut santabag
Jul 3, 2006

Sweevo posted:

linux is for people who think it's still 1973 and that a computer is something you have to share with 400 other people

thanks to the power of the cloud, internet of things and the gig economy ur computing devices are already shared with 400 people

Cybernetic Vermin
Apr 18, 2005

The_Franz posted:

it's not a problem if you just want wsl for a proper terminal

it's a big problem if you actually try to use it for real workloads

i have never in my (professional and not) life used the computer in front of me for real workloads, and i've also yet to experience windows on a server for anything but microsoft services.

r u ready to WALK
Sep 29, 2001

Just wait until you get a job in corporate IT where everyone is too stupid to janitor anything that doesn't have buttons to click on, Windows will be everywhere then.

Moo Cowabunga
Jun 15, 2009

[Office Worker.




in my medium/large institution I was ordered to work in a particular location that had just been finished but the computer janitors were still firing up ports on the other side of the floor but my side was still fine and also the wifi was cranking but when the janitor saw me loving my job more than his he told me to get the gently caress off my floor and I said that my boss said that I had to be up there and then he said that his boss said that the floor wasn't ready yet so I told him to gently caress off in a nice way so he hosed off and then switched off my network access and then I lol'd and went home and left him to port away no the floor and I had a margarita in comfort and joy

abigserve
Sep 13, 2009

this is a better avatar than what I had before
windows server and it's associated apps are a case study in why making something easy isn't the same as making it good

this program will install fart app onto your computer -> next
install into program files -> next
add a startup shortcut -> next
installmssqllocallyanddontenablesslandenableiisconfiguredfortheappwithdefaultcredentialsanddisablethefirewall -> next, fuckin hell this takes ages, when's lunch?

pram
Jun 10, 2001

abigserve posted:

windows server

lmao. gets me every time

Qtotonibudinibudet
Nov 7, 2011



Omich poluyobok, skazhi ty narkoman? ya prosto tozhe gde to tam zhivu, mogli by vmeste uyobyvat' narkotiki
during an obligatory "we're improving our IT poo poo beyond what we had as a 50-person company" session discussing fleet management software enforcing disk encryption, our resident "i am very smart" sysadmin type had to pipe up with "ah, but what if you're using... LINUX?"

i and the other linux desktop users that know we can encrypt our disks without announcing our OS preferences to a room full of salespeople and accountants wept at the narcissism

Soricidus
Oct 21, 2010
freedom-hating statist shill

CMYK BLYAT! posted:

during an obligatory "we're improving our IT poo poo beyond what we had as a 50-person company" session discussing fleet management software enforcing disk encryption, our resident "i am very smart" sysadmin type had to pipe up with "ah, but what if you're using... LINUX?"

i and the other linux desktop users that know we can encrypt our disks without announcing our OS preferences to a room full of salespeople and accountants wept at the narcissism

I hope the reply was “you’re not going to be using linux”

Tankakern
Jul 25, 2007

i still find it weird that so many yosposers are anti linux, it's almost like a meme

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pram
Jun 10, 2001
its a piece of poo poo operating system

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