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Or dont because shutting down the forums will just piss people off more and get a bunch of subforums which are ignoring the drama no wanting to talk about it. A trans thread poster should be made mod of FYAD.
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"Maybe if I exert control over the forums, it's sort of like having control over my life!" (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Jan 1, 2020 18:58
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Boba Pearl posted:A trans thread poster should be made mod of FYAD. Oh please do this. This would be true irony.
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Jan 1, 2020 18:58
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Pick posted:"Maybe if I exert control over the forums, it's sort of like having control over my life!" You're not helping, even a little
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Jan 1, 2020 18:59
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CharlestheHammer posted:maybe just empowering someone from the trans thread to that weird super mod thing would do a lot here. Give them the power to be proactive this is a good idea imo
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Jan 1, 2020 18:59
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Pick posted:I'm saying no one will ultimately ever meet this standard because there's a desire to tear down anyone who ends up in a power position on this site. i think it's more, that there's no trust in all in the staff: youre on the right side, or are basically an enemy that needs to be destroyed before you destroy them first. there's no room for even doubt.
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Jan 1, 2020 18:59
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Pick posted:"Maybe if I exert control over the forums, it's sort of like having control over my life!" you have been completely right in this thread about everything but it doesn’t matter. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Boba Pearl posted:Or dont because shutting down the forums will just piss people off more and get a bunch of subforums which are ignoring the drama no wanting to talk about it. A trans thread poster should be made mod of FYAD. Somehow I think that'll end in a lot of pettiness on both sides and will only serve as fuel on this shitshow.
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Jan 1, 2020 18:59
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CharlestheHammer posted:maybe just empowering someone from the trans thread to that weird super mod thing would do a lot here. Give them the power to be proactive I encourage this, the more the merrier mainly because it would make the kiwifarms offsite weirdos absolutely furious.
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Tiler Kiwi posted:i think it's more, that there's no trust in all in the staff: youre on the right side, or are basically an enemy that needs to be destroyed before you destroy them first. there's no room for even doubt. Okay, well maybe people with this mentality will also not make good staff members.
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Jan 1, 2020 19:00
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Pick posted:"Maybe if I exert control over the forums, it's sort of like having control over my life!" You are making the best arguments for why power should be communal and not individual.
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Jan 1, 2020 19:00
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Boba Pearl posted:Or dont because shutting down the forums will just piss people off more and get a bunch of subforums which are ignoring the drama no wanting to talk about it. A trans thread poster should be made mod of FYAD. I'm not advocating a permanent shutdown. I'm saying that, like, the entire forums gets a sixer while Lowtax et al hash poo poo out.
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Jan 1, 2020 19:00
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Boba Pearl posted:A trans thread poster should be made mod of FYAD. this is a better and funnier idea and you should do this 'tax
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Jan 1, 2020 19:00
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Pick posted:FAU, who I liked very much, did this and he still had a breakdown. Yes, because it's a lovely position to be in. But nothing can get fixed without appointing new admins because there are right now like literally 3 people on this website who can approve punishments longer than... I think Jeffrey bumped it up to a day probation now? It was sixers. And if the current state of the world has taught us nothing else, it's not going to be helped by just throwing anyone out there regardless of their stance here. So we can't do nothing, and we can't appoint someone who isn't vetted by the vulnerable people involved, soooooo the path forward seems pretty likely. It won't solve the problems entirely because there are no magic wands but we need admins to do even the most basic of moderation tasks, and right now there are not enough admins.
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Jan 1, 2020 19:01
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Scoops My Goops posted:You're not helping, even a little The idea that anyone who is openly hostile to the existence of a subforum should be the mod of said subforum is laughable.
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I know FYAD is a large part of the site's history and personally close to Lowtax, I think it's important that once he created this site, it's no longer in your control and becomes that of the community. I'm not sure if FYAD has been relevant / funny for years. I feel like right now the community is clamoring for FYAD's closure. And to be honest, given how big the trans community is here, if FYAD is gonna be a lovely bigoted area, I'd rather see it closed.
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Jan 1, 2020 19:01
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Acebuckeye13 posted:I thought R Guyo was a dumbass before he was an admin, thank you. he was but i thought he did a decent job who knew a tankie would make an okay forums cop
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Jan 1, 2020 19:01
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Spinning Robo posted:The idea that anyone who is openly hostile to the existence of a subforum should be the mod of said subforum is laughable. And is this not a comedy forum? 
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Spinning Robo posted:The idea that anyone who is openly hostile to the existence of a subforum should be the mod of said subforum is laughable. Trans poster as mod for FYAD, FYAD poster as mod for TGRS. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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No one cis is going to pay enough attention to all the different culture and dog whistles, let those who are directly affected by these issues be able to police those who are treating them specifically like poo poo.
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Archer666 posted:Trans poster as mod for FYAD, FYAD poster as mod for TGRS. I will allow tit for tat
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cool dance moves posted:You still dont deny that you said that stuff. I think that's the nub of why people are pissed at you about that stuff specifically. It doesnt matter that it was only a small fraction of what you said, and that some ne'er-do-wells cherrypicked it to make you look bad. The fact that you said that stuff--that you felt ok saying that stuff--is the problem. Despite your claims to being an ally, you were ok with making jokes about a marginalized community, just last night. And posters itt and elsewhere have told you that those kinds of jokes are considered offensive. Are you an ally who listens to marginalized voices, or do you think everyone should loosen up and not get their feelings hurt? You cant have it both ways. You hosed yourself the moment those words came out of your mouth. It's this.
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Jan 1, 2020 19:02
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Spinning Robo posted:The idea that anyone who is openly hostile to the existence of a subforum should be the mod of said subforum is laughable. I mean that has been the state of CSPAM for its entire existence
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Minrad posted:it happened to FAU, it happened to r guyovich, and I guess you could say it happened to smythe. it's happening in this thread. the fact that it keeps happening when there's nobody left to pick up the pieces means it's just going to make things worse and maybe lead to the site shutting down, not helping anyone. this is the most prescient post in the thread so far.
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Jan 1, 2020 19:03
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CharlestheHammer posted:I mean that has been the state of CSPAM for its entire existence And it worked so well!
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seiferguy posted:I know FYAD is a large part of the site's history and personally close to Lowtax, I think it's important that once he created this site, it's no longer in your control and becomes that of the community. I'm not sure if FYAD has been relevant / funny for years. I feel like right now the community is clamoring for FYAD's closure. And to be honest, given how big the trans community is here, if FYAD is gonna be a lovely bigoted area, I'd rather see it closed. Please let's not use this thread to relitigate the existence of FYAD. I'm not saying keep FYAD or don't keep FYAD but this is not that thread.
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Jan 1, 2020 19:04
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Spinning Robo posted:The idea that anyone who is openly hostile to the existence of a subforum should be the mod of said subforum is laughable. Cool non-sequitur
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Spinning Robo posted:And it worked so well! I mean I think the bigger issue was CSPAM had no mods that liked the forum for balance
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Jan 1, 2020 19:05
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The trans thread poster mod of FYAD idea is funny except I'm not sure who would ever volunteer.
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Jan 1, 2020 19:06
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Pick posted:FAU, who I liked very much, did this and he still had a breakdown. FAU said he would support marginalized posters, and then routinely ignored them when they actually tried to bring up issues they were facing (see: all the Bobbie Wickham stuff).
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make cspam its own forum and also make it QCS because i think the IKs are doing an excellent job of filtering out the people acting in bad faith. although i still think they're pussies for not sixering entire pages of people, which is often the only correct approach to every problem. my philosophy as an IK was that if i was forced to care about or pay attention to anything i would make sure everyone suffered.
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PetraCore posted:The trans thread poster mod of FYAD idea is funny except I'm not sure who would ever volunteer. I'm sure someone would
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PetraCore posted:The trans thread poster mod of FYAD idea is funny except I'm not sure who would ever volunteer. It would literally be cruel and abusive to do this, as well. It's a funny idea, but none of us want to even approach the cesspool
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PetraCore posted:The trans thread poster mod of FYAD idea is funny except I'm not sure who would ever volunteer. The amount of abuse and vitriol they would get wouldn't be worth it.
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PetraCore posted:The trans thread poster mod of FYAD idea is funny except I'm not sure who would ever volunteer. becoming a FYAD mod should be an automated $69 upgrade anyone can get
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CharlestheHammer posted:maybe just empowering someone from the trans thread to that weird super mod thing would do a lot here. Give them the power to be proactive Agreed, it's time that the trans posters have an official voice in probating people for 6 hours at a time.
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Jan 1, 2020 19:08
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CharlestheHammer posted:yeah like just delegate to people the forum has some trust in, you have your own poo poo that is keeping you busy we understand that. but right now the task is going to need a lot of effort to fix and having someone more plugged in would help The problem with this is the person a forum wants in charge of it also tends to be a person who is friends with the popular kids and ends up shutting down outside ideas/lets their friends get away with stuff. Ideally you get neutral parties but maybe they just don’t exist, idk 
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Okay, I have turned over the reigns and decisions to the people in the mods and admins thread.
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Tashilicious posted:It would literally be cruel and abusive to do this, as well. It's a funny idea, but none of us want to even approach the cesspool The funny part of it is the idea of giving said person a bangun aimed at FYAD.
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