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Facebook Aunt
Oct 4, 2008

wiggle wiggle




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gvh3l8K7PX0

Do they call themselves "Sand People" or is that a slur? It kinda sounds like a slur. Are they an interstellar civilization that simply prefers to colonize sandy parts of planets? Or are they the native tribal inhabitants of this planet living on the fringes of "civilized" society?

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SIDS Vicious
Jan 1, 1970


Hork

Facebook Aunt
Oct 4, 2008

wiggle wiggle





You are quick on the draw. Unlike Sand People.

Yaldabaoth
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
How does anything live on Tatooine if there's no plant life to produce oxygen from photosynthesis?

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?
They hate us for our freedoms

Sjs00
Jun 29, 2013

Yeah Baby Yeah !

Yaldabaoth posted:

How does anything live on Tatooine if there's no plant life to produce oxygen from photosynthesis?

sand algae equivalent

Ralph Hurley
Aug 3, 2009

:barf::sweep::zoid:



If you try observing them with binoculars from a distance, they will somehow be standing right behind you.

Their native language is “sound library donkey braying”

Years ago when I discovered Wookiepedia I think I remember reading Tuskens and Jawas have a common ancestor and are both kind of like rat people under those hoods and face wraps. I dunno, the whole thing sounds made up to me.

Meme Poker Party
Sep 1, 2006

by Azathoth
I don't like Sand People. They're rough and coarse, and they get everywhere.

Facebook Aunt
Oct 4, 2008

wiggle wiggle




Chomp8645 posted:

I don't like Sand People. They're rough and coarse, and they get everywhere.

That's racist.

poverty goat
Feb 15, 2004



and what about their weird angular space trucks?

Meme Poker Party
Sep 1, 2006

by Azathoth

Facebook Aunt posted:

That's racist.

They take slaves too.

Punkinhead
Apr 2, 2015

Ralph Hurley posted:

I dunno, the whole thing sounds made up to me.

I don't want to sound like a conspiracy nut but I'm beginning to wonder if there ever even was a Star War :thunk:

Vanadium Dame
May 29, 2002

HELLO I WOULD LIKE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT MY VERY STRONG OPINIONS

Short answer is that star wars is intensely racist. Longer answer is they're native to tatooine but have made their way around to other planets to a certain degree. They're intensely poo poo upon by galactic society in general. Wookieepedia has all the uncomfortable nerd details if you want but here's my favorite tusken because of his name

https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Orr%27UrRuuR%27R/Legends

here's another link to distract you from reading that actual wookieepedia article about tusken history and society

https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Sand_People_(species)

Crespolini
Mar 9, 2014

Yaldabaoth posted:

How does anything live on Tatooine if there's no plant life to produce oxygen from photosynthesis?

Most of the planet is a fertile grassland and quite pleasant. People just settled in the wrong region, as a joke.

Vanadium Dame
May 29, 2002

HELLO I WOULD LIKE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT MY VERY STRONG OPINIONS

Crimpolioni posted:

Most of the planet is a fertile grassland and quite pleasant. People just settled in the wrong region, as a joke.

Hah! Look at this fool, thinking that a planet could have more than one biome. What a preposterous notion.

Malcolm Excellent
May 20, 2007

Buglord
Wait until Ki Adi Mundi hears about this!

Ratjaculation
Aug 3, 2007

:parrot::parrot::parrot:



Well OP it's quite simple really tusken Raiders, less formally referred to as Sand People or simply as Tuskens, were a culture of nomadic, primitive sentients indigenous to Tatooine, where they were often hostile to local settlers. Tusken children were called Uli-ah. Culture "A moisture farm? Poor locals never stood a chance. The Sand People think all water is sacred and was promised to them." ―Saponza to his partner after discovering a moisture farm ravaged by Tusken Raiders[src] A group of Tusken raiders Tusken Raiders were a species native to the desert world of Tatooine. Their homeworld's harsh environment resulted in them being extremely xenophobic & territorial of their native resources, often attacking the outskirts of smaller settlements such as Anchorhead. The Sand People believed that all water was sacred and promised to them, resulting in them raiding moisture farms set up by colonists. Additionally, Tusken Raiders harvested black melons which grew in the Jundland Wastes, providing them with a reliable source of milk. Tusken clan groups consisted of 20 to 30 individuals, and were led by clan leaders, tribal chiefs, and warlords. The Sand People communicated in a language known as Tusken. At the age of 15, a Tusken became an adult, and had to slay a krayt dragon and cut out the precious pearl found in its stomach to gain their adult role in their tribe. Tuskens inhabited encampments scattered across an area of the rocky Jundland Wastes known as The Needles, which were guarded from intruders by vicious massiffs. Male Tusken Raiders were the warriors of their clans, often attacking vulnerable travelers that were unfortunate enough to wander through their territory. They wielded gaderffii sticks in combat, and used Tusken Cyclers to fire on vehicles they spotted. Every Tusken warrior created their own gaderffii stick, making each one unique. Males wore rough wrappings and garments that provided protection and allowed ease of movement. Male Tuskens served as warriors, while females held a number of roles. Females could be distinguished by their elaborate jeweled masks with eyeslits and torso-covering sand-shrouds. Tusken children, known as Uli-ah, wore unisex cowls and simple cloaks, and couldn't dress like males or females until they reached adulthood. All Sand People wore mouth grilles and eye coverings to retain moisture and keep sand out. However, their need to protect their bodies from Tatooine's weather grew into a taboo. Because of this, Tuskens almost never unmasked themselves in front of each other. In addition, no outsider ever saw behind a Tusken's mask and lived, and they were forbidden to remove their clothing in front of others, except at childbirth, on their wedding night, and at coming-of-age ceremonies. Tusken Raiders were a hostile warrior race. The Sand People and banthas shared a close, almost mystical bond. During warrior initiation rites, a young Tusken was given a bantha matching their own gender and learned to care for it, with the pair becoming extremely close as the youth earned a place in its clan. When Sand People married, their banthas also mated, and, should its rider die, their bantha usually perished shortly after. If a bantha died before its rider, its remains were placed in a large graveyard, which was treated with great respect by Tuskens and other banthas. While the Tuskens were nominally hostile towards outsiders, one tribe did enter into an arrangement with the lawman Cobb Vanth, the Sheriff of Freetown. Vanth and the animal tamer Malakili secured the Tuskens' protection by supplying water and a pearl from the belly of a krayt dragon. These Tuskens also shared Vanth's hostility towards criminal elements especially slavers. Tuskens are also willing to negotiate with outsiders for valuable items, one of these occurrences was when a Mandalorian traded a new binocular for safe passage through their territory. History Pre-Clone Wars "I…I killed them. I killed them all. They're dead, every single one of them. And not just the men, but the women and the children too. They're like animals, and I slaughtered them like animals." ―Anakin Skywalker[src] A group of Tusken Raiders camped out on the Canyon Dune Turn. In 32 BBY, during the Boonta Eve Classic, several Sand People camped out on Canyon Dune Turn. During the first lap, they took several shots at passing podracers with their projectile rifles. Though initially unsuccessful, on the second lap a Tusken managed to shoot down the podracer of pilot Teemto Pagalies, causing it to crash. In 22 BBY, a month before the Battle of Geonosis, Sand People attacked the Lars moisture farm and kidnapped Shmi Skywalker Lars, whom they imprisoned and tortured. Her son, the Jedi Padawan Anakin Skywalker, returned to Tatooine to rescue her, but after finding her in a Tusken camp, she died of her injuries. The vengeful Anakin proceeded to slaughter every nearby Tusken. Following the massacre, the Tuskens began to fear Skywalker as a vengeful desert demon, and began performing ritual sacrifices to ward him off. Age of the Empire Tusken Raiders destroy Ezra's ship. In 2 BBY, while searching for Obi-Wan Kenobi, Ezra Bridger and C1-10P were ambushed by a group of Tusken Raiders, who succeeded in destroying their ship before being killed by the former Sith apprentice Darth Maul. Galactic Civil War "I think we better get indoors. The Sand People are easily startled but they will soon be back, and in greater numbers." ―Obi-Wan Kenobi[src] Two years later, Anakin's son Luke was attacked by A'Koba and a group of Tuskens after venturing from the homestead to retrieve R2-D2. Fortunately, Obi-Wan Kenobi warded off the Tuskens by imitating the cry of a krayt dragon, Tatooine's deadliest predator. Shortly after the Battle of Yavin, Anakin, now the Sith Lord Darth Vader, slaughtered a village of Tuskens prior to his meeting with bounty hunters Boba Fett and Black Krrsantan. Following the attack, a survivor showed other Tuskens the ruins of his village and the corpses of his people. These Tuskens then built a shrine to Vader and sacrificed the survivor. Sometime after, a Tusken known as the "Jundland General" led his people in a series of coordinated strikes against the colonists of Tatooine. However, he and his followers were crushed by a group of mercenaries led by Saponza and his partner. New Republic Era Prior to the Battle of Jakku, the Sheriff of Freetown Cobb Vanth struck a deal with local Tusken Raiders to protect his settlement from criminal elements. In return for protecting Freetown, the Tusken tribe received water and a pearl from the belly of a Krayt dragon. Like Vanth's community, the Tuskens despised criminals particularly slavers. When the Red Key Raiders under crime lord Lorgan Movellan captured Freetown, the Tusken tribe ambushed the criminals and liberated the town. In 9 ABY, a Mandalorian reluctantly teamed up with rookie bounty hunter, Toro Calican. The two set out on speeder bikes across the Dune Sea. On their way to the target, they encountered some Tusken Raiders. The Mandalorian negotiated through sign language to allow them safe passage through their land. This worked in exchange for the rookie bounty hunter's binoculars, which the Mandalorian willingly gave to the Tusken Raiders in spite of Calican's objection. In 34 ABY, during his self-imposed exile on Ahch-To, the Jedi Master Luke Skywalker had a dream where he ignored Princess Leia Organa's message and never joined the rebellion. In his dream, two decades had passed since any Tusken Raider had been seen on his side of Anchorhead and that nothing was left of them except for bones. Luke noted that for some reason it made him feel sad. Behind the scenes Tusken Raiders concept art by Ralph McQuarrie. The Tuskens appeared initially in the second draft of Star Wars: A New Hope, as Imperial spies deployed as a platoon onto the surface of Tatooine to search for whatever had brought Deak Starkiller to that planet. They appeared to be humanoid, with red eyes, and drove distinctive landspeeders. They became a native people of Tatooine in the third draft. For the Star Wars Rebels episode "Twin Suns", the Tusken Raiders were designed to not have flowing robes to save valuable time and resources in animation rendering.

Hope that helps OP

Colonel Cancer
Sep 26, 2015

Tune into the fireplace channel, you absolute buffoon
Bantha poodoo posting itt

Cough Drop The Beat
Jan 22, 2012

by Lowtax
George Lucas has multiple characters/races all over Star Wars, in the prequel trilogy especially, who are anywhere from questionable to hilariously racist stereotypes. Like Watto, the slave owner who owns Anakin and his mom, has a huge nose, wears a small circular hat, is obsessed with money, and bizarrely speaks like a Fiddler on the Roof character.

lllllllllllllllllll
Feb 28, 2010

Now the scene's lighting is perfect!

Ralph Hurley posted:

Years ago when I discovered Wookiepedia I think I remember reading Tuskens and Jawas have a common ancestor and are both kind of like rat people under those hoods and face wraps. I dunno, the whole thing sounds made up to me.
They are people from the Middle East through the lens of American pop culture (the worst Orientalism).

lllllllllllllllllll fucked around with this message at 22:30 on Jan 13, 2020

Voting Floater
May 19, 2019

They use every part of the Bantha.

Resting Lich Face
Feb 21, 2019


This case of an intraperitoneal zucchini is unusual, and does raise questions as to how hard one has to push a blunt vegetable to perforate the rectum.

Colonel Cancer posted:

Bantha poodoo posting itt

Echuta

Meme Poker Party
Sep 1, 2006

by Azathoth
Great Real Names of Star Wars


- Elan Sleazebaggano
- Kit Fisto
- Dud Bolt
- Whorm Loathsom
- Salacious B. Crumb
- Therm Scissorpunch
- Savage Opress
- Ima-gun Di
- Count Dooku
- Notluwiski Papanoida
- Wickett W. Warrick
- Nute Gunray

Vanadium Dame
May 29, 2002

HELLO I WOULD LIKE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT MY VERY STRONG OPINIONS


It bothers me intensely that I could pretty much follow that save for the lack of formatting, punctuation, and that it reads like someone dictating their memoirs about tuskens.

numberoneposter
Feb 19, 2014

How much do I cum? The answer might surprise you!

whats the deal with jawas

Mermaid Autopsy
Jun 9, 2001

humans are a colonizer race and the Empire was the logical product of their drive for expansion to bring their idea of civilization and exploitation to the indigenous populations; SuperMechaGodzilla has already given the last word on this subect.

Facebook Aunt
Oct 4, 2008

wiggle wiggle




Erisian Automata posted:

Short answer is that star wars is intensely racist. Longer answer is they're native to tatooine but have made their way around to other planets to a certain degree. They're intensely poo poo upon by galactic society in general. Wookieepedia has all the uncomfortable nerd details if you want but here's my favorite tusken because of his name

https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Orr%27UrRuuR%27R/Legends

here's another link to distract you from reading that actual wookieepedia article about tusken history and society

https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Sand_People_(species)

Huh. So according to this they are the native inhabitants, and since they are super territorial they probably didn't consent to having their planet colonized by a bunch of random species. People keep stealing their land, then crying when they "raid" the invasive settlements.


Where the hell are these idiot settlers coming from anyway? Where could you possibly live that going to be a moisture farmer on Tatooine would seem like a good move? Even the belters in the Expanse would look at Tatooine and go "Nah, we'll keep living on space stations and mining water from asteroids, that planet sucks".

Meme Poker Party
Sep 1, 2006

by Azathoth

Erisian Automata posted:

It bothers me intensely that I could pretty much follow that save for the lack of formatting, punctuation, and that it reads like someone dictating their memoirs about tuskens.

Excerpt from "Seven Years a Tusken"

Universe Master
Jun 20, 2005

Darn Fine Pie

The Fremen ride Shai-Hulud, the great sandworms of Arrakis

Xenocides
Jan 14, 2008

This world looks very scary....


They are presumably cross eyed and all nearsighted as Kenobi points out that even stormtroopers are better at shooting things than they are.

Genesplicer
Oct 19, 2002

I give your invention the worst grade imaginable: An A-minus-minus!

Total Clam

Cough Drop The Beat posted:

George Lucas has multiple characters/races all over Star Wars, in the prequel trilogy especially, who are anywhere from questionable to hilariously racist stereotypes. Like Watto, the slave owner who owns Anakin and his mom, has a huge nose, wears a small circular hat, is obsessed with money, and bizarrely speaks like a Fiddler on the Roof character.

Interestingly, the Rebel Alliance features many different species, while the Empire seems to be a humans-only club.

Mermaid Autopsy
Jun 9, 2001

Facebook Aunt posted:

Huh. So according to this they are the native inhabitants, and since they are super territorial they probably didn't consent to having their planet colonized by a bunch of random species. People keep stealing their land, then crying when they "raid" the invasive settlements.


Where the hell are these idiot settlers coming from anyway? Where could you possibly live that going to be a moisture farmer on Tatooine would seem like a good move? Even the belters in the Expanse would look at Tatooine and go "Nah, we'll keep living on space stations and mining water from asteroids, that planet sucks".

it's the same with the Gungans; Padme was part of a colonial government

Vanadium Dame
May 29, 2002

HELLO I WOULD LIKE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT MY VERY STRONG OPINIONS

Genesplicer posted:

Interestingly, the Rebel Alliance features many different species, while the Empire seems to be a humans-only club.

This, and rampant misogyny. To rise in the ranks of the imperial navy as a woman or a non-human required Stuff. Example would be Thrawn is blue with red eyes but he's a tactical genius, and Daala slept with Tarkin a lot. Star wars.

E: if that made you think of peter cushing doing the nasty jams, you're welcome

Vanadium Dame fucked around with this message at 22:52 on Jan 13, 2020

Meme Poker Party
Sep 1, 2006

by Azathoth

Genesplicer posted:

Interestingly, the Rebel Alliance features many different species, while the Empire seems to be a humans-only club.

Kinda. Honestly this didn't come out until after the films via games, comics, and other supplemental stuff.

I remembered it the same way: "Empire is just humans, while Rebels have lots of aliens!". But honestly, it's not true. The rebels are "humans for two movies, humans + fish guys for last movie." Seriously, rewatch the Death Star battle and Hoth battles. There isn't a non-human to be found who isn't named "Chewbacca". The rebel bases on Yavin and Hoth are just big ole human camps. They throw in some aliens in the ROTJ but even then it's really just a bunch of Mon Calamari and Nien Numb riding shotgun on the Falcon.

Kharnifex
Sep 11, 2001

The Banter is better in AusGBS
Maclunkey

ninjoatse.cx
Apr 9, 2005

Fun Shoe
It's our word and we're taking it back for my people.

Loden Taylor
Aug 11, 2003

Erisian Automata posted:

This, and rampant misogyny. To rise in the ranks of the imperial navy as a woman or a non-human required Stuff. Example would be Thrawn is blue with red eyes but he's a tactical genius, and Daala slept with Tarkin a lot. Star wars.

E: if that made you think of peter cushing doing the nasty jams, you're welcome

quote:

However, the allegations were in fact partly accurate, as Daala did have an affair with Tarkin.[12] The initiative in the relationship, which began while Daala and Tarkin were still on Carida, was usually attributed to Tarkin, but Tarkin's own fragmented memoirs suggested that Daala, still a teenager at the time, took the lead.[6]

STAR WARS

Call Your Grandma
Jan 17, 2010

they prefer to be called australians op

Vanadium Dame
May 29, 2002

HELLO I WOULD LIKE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT MY VERY STRONG OPINIONS

Chomp8645 posted:

Kinda. Honestly this didn't come out until after the films via games, comics, and other supplemental stuff.

I remembered it the same way: "Empire is just humans, while Rebels have lots of aliens!". But honestly, it's not true. The rebels are "humans for two movies, humans + fish guys for last movie." Seriously, rewatch the Death Star battle and Hoth battles. There isn't a non-human to be found who isn't named "Chewbacca". The rebel base on Hoth is just a big ole human camp. They throw in some aliens in the ROTJ but even then it's really just a bunch of Mon Calamari and Nien Numb riding shotgun on the Falcon.

This is a semi cop-out but it's a theory that I think holds some water - x-wing cockpits are hard to get in, wearing just a helmet and top. mark hamil did his scenes in the x-wing in ANH with no pants on. Putting on a wookiee suit would make that more difficult. And during that era, ST:TNG wasn't around to perfect the rapid and cheap application of forehead latex. So yeah, whole lotta extras around to clap for our heroes, and they're a bunch of white dudes because a whole lotta white people to spare.

That said, star wars is still really really human-centric. Usually attractive, male, with some degree of magic powers.

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Son of Rodney
Feb 22, 2006

ohmygodohmygodohmygod

This thread is very pebblematic

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