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WindyMan
Mar 21, 2002

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WATCH MORE SUPERCROSS





No, seriously. You should watch Supercross. It's rather good. It's got thrills & spills (lots of spills), full-contact passing, unpredictable racing, manufacturer parity (and color coding!), and a decently competitive championship.

Just last year had two of the closest finishes in Supercross history, as well as several more last-lap and last-corner passes for the win in both the 450 main class and the 250 support classes. Here was one where the winner overcame a 13 second gap to steal it at the line for the closest finish ever:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbxhLJAQan4

Supercross is both the AMA and FIM championships for the discipline, so you've literally got the best riders in the world doing this every week. It's unique in that the track layout is different every time the circuit comes to a venue or returns to the same venue, either a baseball stadium or a football stadium, so track knowledge can only be built up in one day. The season runs from January to May before switching to the outdoor Motocross season for the summer. (Pro Motocross is OK but not as good as Supercross!) There are two bike classes (450cc and 250cc) split up into three divisions (450SX, 250SX West, 250SX East), with every race day featuring the 450 class and one of the two regional 250 classes.

Many, many bikes participate in qualifying practice, but only the top 40 bikes qualify for the night program (what you see on TV) with the heat races and LCQs. From those, the top 22 make it to the main event. Some 450 events are Triple Crown races that have a special 3-heat overall format, and some 250 events are crossover races where both regions compete with and against each other. If that sounds confusing, the easy way to put it is that there's a lot of variety in the competition!

The racing really is unpredictable. You could get a 10+ second butt-kicking win by the leader, but you could also see the leader blow a 10-second lead by self-crashing in a corner or on a jump. The track degrades through a race and through the race night overall, so riders really have to stay on their toes just to stay upright, let alone go bar-to-bar with one another. Aggressive block passing is allowed and expected, and revenge re-passing is totally a thing that happens and is very entertaining when it doesn't go well!

Right now is a very good time to jump in to Supercross. Many of the sport's top names and long-time champions in the 450 class have retired through the 2010's, leaving a lot of younger veterans and up-and-comers from the 250 class all competing to make a name for themselves. From 2010 to 2017 only two riders won the championship. In the last two years there have been two different champions, and 5 or 6 others that could legitimately compete for it. Without a currently-dominating rider, and with at least three of the five manufacturers good for several race wins through the season, I have absolutely no idea how this season is going to play out. Which makes it exciting to watch!

The full season of races are shown live on NBCSN on Saturday nights.

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WindyMan
Mar 21, 2002

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IMSA DPI 2.0s will be eligible to run alongside ACO Hypercars starting in 2022.

https://twitter.com/sportscar365/status/1220438822850301953

WindyMan
Mar 21, 2002

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https://twitter.com/24hoursoflemans/status/1220756292488306690

LE MANS

DAYTONA

H

WindyMan
Mar 21, 2002

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track day bro! posted:

What the hell does h stand for?

It stands for

H

WindyMan
Mar 21, 2002

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harperdc posted:

Rally Monte Carlo spoiler:

Holy loving poo poo, Tanak had a massive off. Sounds like everyone’s safe.

https://twitter.com/as_sakimori/status/1220678867741855746

edit:

Watch More Supercrossh

https://streamable.com/pjdqr


WindyMan fucked around with this message at 20:12 on Jan 24, 2020

WindyMan
Mar 21, 2002

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SPACE HOMOS posted:


Multimatic #19 Scott Maxwell

Not a great way to end the first IMPC race of the season.

https://twitter.com/MotorsportsNBC/status/1220835124440379394

WindyMan
Mar 21, 2002

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https://twitter.com/A_S12/status/1221795075874807814?s=20

Sweeeeeeeeet.

WindyMan
Mar 21, 2002

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MazeOfTzeentch posted:

Fuuuck yeah maybe I can watch some motorbikes now, instead of having no idea what the gently caress

Watch More Supercross

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okkieOBNXEo

WindyMan
Mar 21, 2002

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Bathurst 12h this weekend. It has 39 cars. That's more than started Daytona!

https://www.bathurst12hour.com.au/race-information/entry/

WindyMan
Mar 21, 2002

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Bathurst trialing new safety car procedures.



WindyMan
Mar 21, 2002

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Dr. Garbanzo posted:

Bathurst is good at taking no prisoners

https://twitter.com/Bathurst12hour/status/1223432712460980230

EDIT

https://twitter.com/Bathurst12hour/status/1223445312892592129

WindyMan fucked around with this message at 04:25 on Feb 1, 2020

WindyMan
Mar 21, 2002

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meowmeowmeowmeow posted:

been really enjoying watching supercross the last couple weeks, really fun racing and an entertaining format.

YOU SEE GUYS I KEEP TELLING Y'ALL

WindyMan
Mar 21, 2002

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The NHRA made a change to their P L A Y O F F structure. Basically, every full-time team that puts down qualifying runs is automatically in the Countdown.

https://www.nhra.com/news/2020/nhra-announces-changes-countdown-championship-points-structure

However…

https://www.autoweek.com/racing/nhra/a30792414/nhra-headache-top-fuel-champ-steve-torrence-others-skipping-season-opening-winternationals/

quote:

What if the NHRA threw a 60th anniversary party and the reigning king of the “Kings of the Sport” didn’t show up?

Two-time defending Top Fuel champion Steve Torrence sent his RSVP via social media Wednesday. He won’t be racing at the season-opening 60th annual Winternationals that begin this weekend at Pomona, California.

Turns out, he's not alone in deciding to pass on the NHRA's first event of the 2020 season.

quote:

The trouble is that Torrence’s absence has greater complications. He’s not the only one opting out of the Winternationals. The Top Fuel class will now be missing three of the top seven racers from last year’s final standings.

No. 5 Billy Torrence, Steve’s father, has pulled out. And No. 7 from last year, Mike Salinas, who skipped three races last season but qualified fifth for the Countdown to the Championship, announced last weekend that business commitments will keep him from the first four events this year.

Moreover, Steve Torrence’s decision has created a wave of discontent. In a show of solidarity, two owner-drivers—Top Fuel regular Scott Palmer and Funny Car racer Jeff Diehl—also are sitting out the Winternationals.…

…Ironically, the defections come less than a month after the NHRA instituted new rules for qualifying for its Countdown to the Championship playoffs that the series said would encourage participation.

:tif:

WindyMan
Mar 21, 2002

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No better time to round up all the medical cars and see which one is the fastest

WindyMan
Mar 21, 2002

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meowmeowmeowmeow posted:

Supercross is getting cancelled too :(

brb killing myself

Oh wait, MotoGP has a playlist of their 10 best races for free, maybe that will tide me over:

https://www.motogp.com/en/video_gallery/2020/03/13/top-10-races-of-all-time/328235

WindyMan
Mar 21, 2002

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Custard Undies posted:

Does this increase the likely hood of rain during the race? Because if so.... :flashfap:

It certainly increases the likelihood of darkness

ed-



vs.

WindyMan fucked around with this message at 07:03 on Mar 19, 2020

WindyMan
Mar 21, 2002

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Dudley posted:

Has he explained exactly how running cars in a circle stops starvation?

Vortex effect

WindyMan
Mar 21, 2002

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harperdc posted:

Dinner With Racers running their Thursday Night Blunder series with a format that I think this thread would appreciate: the jumpy trucks, and a group of old Nissan GTP cars trying to be the best ramps they can be.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHOFv2sRT2o

good lord this is hilarious

WindyMan
Mar 21, 2002

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Nybble posted:

*watches the driver and car lineups one time* found my favorite team

https://youtu.be/XKHO9q4IbM0

Knew which one without clicking

WindyMan
Mar 21, 2002

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meowmeowmeowmeow posted:

whats the easiest way to watch supercross live? they're back at it tomorrow night and while I usually watch the recaps I'd like to watch live if I can, even if I have to pay for it.

Live on NBCSN, although the first race back will be on network NBC. You should be able to find illegal Completely Legitimate and Legal Gray Market streams somewhere out there. Or you could pay for the official streaming at NBC Sports Gold. Price is steep at $60 for the remaining 7 races plus the Monster Energy Cup, but you get all the race replays and live practice/qualifying.

I have YouTube TV at $50 a month which of course includes just about all the other TV networks with sports and racing, with unlimited DVR. You may want to try getting a free trial there or at the other TV streaming sites and sneak in a few freebies if you haven't done that yet.

WindyMan
Mar 21, 2002

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Basticle posted:

bring back GT1 :getin:

my man

WindyMan
Mar 21, 2002

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meowmeowmeowmeow posted:

Hi y'all, just another reminder to watch supercross. The final race of the season is Saturday (I think) and it should be a good one.

Last race is on Sunday.

meowmeowmeowmeow posted:

The two divisions of the 250 class (east and west coast) are doing a showdown, and both have a tight battle for first. Watching the four in title contention for two different titles battle should be really really good racing, and the last couple of tracks have had great layouts.

The 250s are so great because there are only 7 or 8 races in their season, so the top 2 or 3 riders really have to get after each other. It's almost a guarantee that a 250 race will have a hard pass or even a takeout for the lead. They have to go after it and take big risks, and that results in a lot of drama in a short period of time.

The last race "points gimmick," for the 250s, which really isn't one, is the showdown, where the East and West divisions race together during the same main event. Points are paid by finishing position as normal, even if people in the other division finish ahead of a rider. The difference in the championship is 7 in the West and 6 in the East, which is the difference between 1st and 4th; the top 4 finishing E/W/W/E or vice versa is a completely realistic scenario, and that would be enough to flip the championship!

meowmeowmeowmeow posted:

450s is a little less exciting as first is all but confirmed to be Eli Tomac, but last year's overall winner Cooper Webb and Ken Roczen are fighting for second and it should be a good time. Roczen was in the fight for first until some health issues set him back but he won the race last weekend and might still be able to get 2nd back from Webb.

Tomac is going to win it on Sunday, he's too far ahead. But he could have won it on Wednesday had he won the race! He got a terrible start and was dead last into the first corner. As Webb and Roczen were in 2nd and 3rd trying to come forward to take the lead, Tomac was charging through the field. He got up to 4th, got by Roczen, then got up to 2nd after a mistake by the leader that allowed Webb to take the lead. Webb couldn't pull away, but Tomac couldn't close up.

Even with the championship all but locked up, any one race has enough action and storylines playing out that you can't help but be engaged. For example, last Sunday we learned that Roczen was diagnosed with shingles, explaining his late-race fades. Halfway through that race we were waiting for him to fade again, like he had in the last three races…nope! He kept his lead and won. With shingles.

It's good poo poo.

meowmeowmeowmeow posted:

Honestly just watch it, its killer racing and very approachable as a viewer.

watch

more

supercross

WindyMan
Mar 21, 2002

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algebra testes posted:

Isn't f1 a better series if you spend the money to make say, Imola fit for F1 instead of holding a race in some petro-state?

They ruined Fuji Speedway trying to make it "fit" for F1. Better to keep the track as it is and live with modern F1 on the track rather than try to "modernize" Imola and destroy one of the classic racetracks of the world.

WindyMan
Mar 21, 2002

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GT3 is the new GTE

GT4 is the new GT3

And bring back GT1!

WindyMan
Mar 21, 2002

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A classic Can Am car flipped at Road America, Merc-at-Lemans style. It was tailing another car as it was cresting the hill, and wooosh.

Can barely see it at the end of the first video. Second video has a better view of the flip from the bridge.

https://twitter.com/joshbilicki/status/1287190697775423488

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Mar 21, 2002

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harperdc posted:

That wreck in the MotoGP race is one of the scariest I’ve seen in years. A bike flying that high at 250 kmh plus would have killed either rider if it hit them, full stop. We got lucky it didn’t happen.

If Vale was killed like this it would have been the equivalent Dale moment in moto racing.

WindyMan
Mar 21, 2002

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Don't forget we're in the Discord if you want to chat: https://discord.gg/m8YPSs9

Goofball on the spot with recent highlights. poo poo is hitting the fan!

Rear wing falls off the ByKolles (lol)
https://streamable.com/ccg4xf

Then it bumped into the fence trying to limp back into the pits (double lol)
https://imgur.com/ILLpWpu

HUGE crash for the #30 P2 car
https://streamable.com/i1tivz

Big hole in the fence, going to be long safety car.

WindyMan fucked around with this message at 20:41 on Sep 19, 2020

WindyMan
Mar 21, 2002

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Here's an ungeoblocked international feed.

https://www.sporttotal.tv/vic567cd5e

WindyMan
Mar 21, 2002

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Clicked a random race video on YouTube and went on a little adventure. Let's visit the DTM in the early 90s at (what was left of) the historic AVUS circuit!

AVUS was the famous German test track turned Grand Prix circuit that was literally two tight hairpins connected by two long straights. Through the years, drivers were killed, the original banking was knocked down, the straights were made shorter and shorter, and our old friend a temporary chicane was added. Oh, and the stretch of road was a freeway when it wasn't a race track.

An onboard lap of the "modern" configuration.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmQiMzE5NNE

A flip at the finish line. He was on the podium despite this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gzYrKYAKpU

A big fireball of an accident!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w55XJ0LWSx0

And the two races from 1995. The '95 DTM season had the likes of Dario Franchitti, Jan Magnussen, JJ Lehto, Bernd Maylander, and Giancarlo Fisichella, with a few other recognizable international names.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Elw6lde2YA&t=477s

The second race had to be abandoned due to a massive pileup during a restart. The event that caused the race stoppage was weird in its own right. A car lost its hood, but then a car further back seemed to spontaneously combust. Weird. (Skip to 38:00 to see that, then the fateful restart some minutes later.)

If you look at the Google Maps satellite, you can easily see the north loop; go down the freeway a bit and you'll see the remnants of the old south loop still cut into the forest. Neat!

RIP AVUS, what a dumb track you were!

WindyMan fucked around with this message at 20:18 on Sep 28, 2020

WindyMan
Mar 21, 2002

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orange juche posted:

Also, to talk about only LMDh and ignore that Audi is also focusing on Dakar is blasphemy imo. Dakar is awesome, and I wish I had a better way to watch it.

RedBull TV has the daily recap shows?

https://www.redbull.com/us-en/events/dakar-rally-saudi-arabia-2020

WindyMan
Mar 21, 2002

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orange juche posted:

Formula E gonna pack up shop in a season or 2?

Seconding the nah. There's still major support by other manufacturers (Mercedes, Porsche, Jaguar, Nissan) and big teams, plus the Gen 3 cars are coming in 2022/23. (This season was due to be the last for the Gen 2 cars, but covid or something.) Mahindra was the first team to commit to them just this week.

Here's more info on the Gen 3 cars. They should be pretty bad-rear end, actually. Roughly a 30% power increase (350kw qualifying/attack and 300kw race) and fast charging capabilities (600kw) so they can recharge the battery during pitstops. Kind of crazy that not even three years ago, they were still swapping cars during the race!

MazeOfTzeentch posted:

e: also the cars are slow. They need to speed them up and make them a bit more racy if they want better audiences. Top talents racing cars roughly equivalent to Formula 3 cars gets a bit boring after a while.

With the power of the Gen 3 cars they should be pushing past 180mph easily. However, FE cars are "slow" because of the (deliberately) lovely tires and chicane-laden circuits needed for more regen points. Hopefully the capability of the newer cars can start opening up circuit design.

WindyMan
Mar 21, 2002

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marshalljim posted:

The battery tech to run at anything like GP speeds for the 45 minutes they want is not there and won't be anytime soon.

That's, uh, part of the reason why this series exists. To get there sooner.

ed- Same with Roborace and autonomous tech. Things aren't exactly going swimmingly over there, either.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1kRJkqIvos

WindyMan fucked around with this message at 20:32 on Dec 3, 2020

WindyMan
Mar 21, 2002

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https://twitter.com/A_S12/status/1338921799657152521

Watch More Supercross

WindyMan
Mar 21, 2002

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track day bro! posted:

I got the Dakar stuff as a youtube rec, but what the hell is going on with the coverage. Like the only video on the classics stuff is like 30 seconds long and most of the other videos are like a couple of minutes

The clips they show on YouTube are the same that are shown during the daily recap shows. The daily recap show supplements that with interviews, news, special features, host banter, etc. If you're just wanting to follow along with the action of the race what you see on YouTube is just the bare minimum of it. RedBull TV has the daily shows if you want the juicy fat bits with your meat.

https://www.redbull.com/int-en/events/dakar-rally

WindyMan
Mar 21, 2002

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harperdc posted:

Video is unavailable, what was it?

Supercross preview show. The NBCSN version may be geoblocked (and is 9 minutes shorter for some reason) so there's the version from Supercross that you may be able to see:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4s1_a_yRDnw

Watch More Supercross

WindyMan
Mar 21, 2002

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Meanwhile, at the Chili Bowl

https://twitter.com/jeff_gluck/status/1349528725222612993

WindyMan
Mar 21, 2002

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harperdc posted:

The downsides? Looks like GTE is dead man walking as a pro, factory-backed class. Porsche's out in the U.S., Aston's out in the WEC, and that leaves 3 full-time cars in IMSA and a small grid in the WEC. While they've gotten things controlled for prototypes, next question will be what the ACO does for the sports cars.

We've seen this story when GT1 died out and GT2 became the premier pro GT class. Everything should slot down to GT3 and GT4 cars.

WindyMan
Mar 21, 2002

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Double post for Supercross! I will be stream sharing the NBCSN live broadcast on Discord as often as I can this year, including tonight! I'll start after the Chili Bowl stream switches over to MavTV and Facebook.

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WindyMan
Mar 21, 2002

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meowmeowmeowmeow posted:

If you aren't watching sx you're missing out, pretty good racing last night and shaping up for a very good season with a DEEP field in the 450 class, something like 7 previous 250 season champions in one of the heat races last night. Basically 15 dudes who could be a winner on any given night and a tight schedule that should give some good racing as the season heats up.

Lots of crashes too if you're into that poo poo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=610bKfV-Rjs

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