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The scifi series was goofy in a lot of ways but the casting was really loving great across the board.
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# ¿ Apr 14, 2020 19:34 |
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# ¿ May 11, 2024 11:47 |
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I don't mind bland if the alternative is the cavalcade of stupid hats from the miniseries, tbh edit: that tbh was not meant to mock the guy above me, who has a pretty great point about going hog in other designs tho
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# ¿ Apr 15, 2020 00:44 |
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I can appreciate the hearty lols that came out of Lynch's version and I mean no disrespect to anyone who unironically likes that movie, but I have to tell you guys, im with the folks who think that the further this strays from the 84 edition, including the costuming, the better Gonna get kanly'd for this for sure
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# ¿ Apr 21, 2020 23:52 |
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u brexit ukip it posted:Someone will probably post his lines from Rome. Only true maker spice for true Fremen.
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# ¿ Apr 23, 2020 22:56 |
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"It's only tits and sandworms." - Ian McShane, probably cast in the movie somewhere
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# ¿ Apr 24, 2020 18:38 |
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The_Doctor posted:It’s fun when you can single out an actor and just know they’re headed for good things. I remember noticing Chadwick Boseman in a guest role on Fringe and thinking I’d see him again in a bigger role. He was absolutely killing it, way more than the subject matter deserved. Band of Brothers was a deep vein for this. Just the one-off supporting characters included Tom Hardy, Michael Fassbender, James McAvoy, Simon Pegg, Andrew Scott, and Dominic Cooper.
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# ¿ Apr 27, 2020 17:33 |
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Ingmar terdman posted:Blasted through the first book and Messiah just came in the mail today Herbert's quote about that -- "No more terrible disaster could befall your people than for them to fall into the hands of a Hero" -- was always the theme of the series to me. He spent Dune building up Paul, the Atreides, and the Fremen, and then spent the next three books breaking them down and showing just how terrible heroes and their followers can be even when their intentions are good. I get that the first novel is a perfect hero's journey and I get why people loved it, but I also get why a lot of the same audience bounced hard off the rest of Frank Herbert's part of the series. All the unpalatable reasons are what make it unique and good but they're also why it's so unlikely that we'll see anything past the first book.
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# ¿ Jul 23, 2020 23:53 |
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Ingmar terdman posted:There's also a group of eugenist finishing school witches that basically propagate Joseph Campbell to the unwashed masses. I agree the first book has a fairly standard hero's journey but Frank isn't shy about pulling the curtain back on it along the way Oh for sure, not at all disagreeing. Herbert alludes to things going extremely uncool with the hero's journey using the chapter epigraphs/epigrams, and then makes things go worse by degrees until everyone's celebrating the start of a galactic jihad heading to billions of deaths. I think the book was popular despite Herbert pulling the curtain back and not because of it, but I think the series has weight and longevity for the opposite reason.
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# ¿ Jul 24, 2020 01:03 |
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hump day bitches! posted:Ian mcniece as baron Harkonnen rules tho. truth
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# ¿ Sep 7, 2020 03:15 |
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The old spice must not flow I guess
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# ¿ Sep 8, 2020 17:35 |
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got off on a technicality posted:I get a horribly generic vibe from the trailer. I dislike the way it's cut, the way it looks. The way it dwells on and on on that YA protagonist mumble. The worm is awesome, and I like many aspects of the production design. I hope, and even suspect, that the movie will feel quite different hulud, same
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# ¿ Sep 14, 2020 02:17 |
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EL BROMANCE posted:I’ve not read the book so I’m just going to assume it’s set ten years later.
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# ¿ Oct 5, 2020 21:43 |
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YaketySass posted:They're Sand Wakanda, just not as outrageously opulent so the rugged facade isn't that much of one. This made me look up which came first. I thought for sure that the publication of Dune largely predated the first comic with Wakanda, but I was wrong -- Dune came out in 65, and the first series with Wakanda came out in 66, not even a year apart. Still blows my mind that either or both of these came out during the era depicted in Mad Men.
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# ¿ Oct 20, 2021 14:36 |
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Steve Yun posted:Would this movie be okay for a 12 year old Make him watch 2001 and measure the boredom quotient
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# ¿ Oct 21, 2021 22:42 |
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gohmak posted:Can we all agree that this movie was beautiful but the Mini Series is still the best? wint: no
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# ¿ Oct 22, 2021 18:22 |
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Kurzon posted:Jessica in this movie always seems anxious. Is she like this in the book? yes. She's hyper aware of what she's done, what role Paul might have in the future, and what the Atredies taking over Arrakis means. She has the weight of an entire species hanging on the quality of her motherhood. It isn't physically shown in the books -- instead it's a series of thoughts full of self-doubt built around conversations with Yueh, the Duke, Paul, and the Reverend Mother. Thankfully the movie decided to show that and not tell it.
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# ¿ Oct 22, 2021 18:29 |
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I thought this episode was garbage, personally
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# ¿ Oct 24, 2021 18:16 |
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He did a fine job reading the news in Rome
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# ¿ Oct 25, 2021 16:02 |
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ALFbrot posted:One bit I loved that I haven't seen anybody mention was when Paul and Jessica were starting up Kynes' hidden ornithopter and there was that common "there's problems getting it started and our pursuers are going to be here any moment!" bit, where Jessica keeps tensely looking towards the blackened door. You fully expect the Sardaukar to show up in the typical "stormtroopers shooting at the Millenium Falcon just as it flies away" manner, but they just... don't. They followed Kynes instead. This was fantastic. Villeneuve was surely aware of that but let the closed door and closed door only drive all the suspense. Brilliant 👏
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# ¿ Oct 28, 2021 15:45 |
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Book reading friends and non-book reading friends have all loved it. Great take on the series generally, but not without a few faults seems to be the median take
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# ¿ Oct 28, 2021 15:59 |
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Luv 2 b reductive
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# ¿ Oct 28, 2021 16:13 |
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LesterGroans posted:Man, if they do make Dune Messiah then Jason Momoa returning is gonna get a big pop from the audience. God Emperor or bust Momoa climbing a cliff and making a woman orgasm in the process will be a scene for the cinematic ages
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# ¿ Oct 28, 2021 17:55 |
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Alchenar posted:Lets face it how many other actors could pull that off credibly? Realistically, only Danny DeVito
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# ¿ Oct 28, 2021 18:46 |
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If Villeneuve gets the go ahead to make Messiah as the third in the trilogy, Paul walking blind into the desert would actually be a great ending to the series.
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# ¿ Oct 29, 2021 00:13 |
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I heard it as a drill-instructror "Paul you still suck get your poo poo in order" line. R. Lee Ermey would have been a perfect Gurney, but Josh Brolin certainly isn't bad
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# ¿ Oct 29, 2021 20:05 |
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Admiral Bosch posted:"make sure the shield is functioning before engaging in full strength sparring" seems like a pretty logical SOP if you ask me exposition is impossibly difficult in fiction without using the "as you know" or "Aren't you Willie Scott, the famous American female vocalist?" bits and Dune does a good job with it
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# ¿ Oct 29, 2021 20:15 |
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The thing about explaining things is that explaining things sucks turgid rear end. Star Wars is better without an extended universe that explains the most inconsequential details, like the dice on the Millenium Falcon. Star Trek was better when it didn't explain the Borg. Reader imagination is always, always better than what the creator can come up with, but explanations are profitable, so here he are. This is me with an original thought that nobody has ever come up with before. Surely.
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# ¿ Oct 29, 2021 21:01 |
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Failed Imagineer posted:Man the Borg were so loving chilling when they were just this implacable lurking menace that was gonna turn up and gently caress humanity *sometime* Yeah. When they were an implacable force of nature, they went beyond terrifying and into horrifying. I remember watching Q Who part one of Best of Both Worlds as a wee lad and being petrified by the Borg. Late TNG and Voyager turned them into a joke. Implication is genius. Explanation is garbage.
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# ¿ Oct 29, 2021 21:12 |
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Just realized we didn't get to see Jessica give Drunken Idaho the stern talking-to, would've been a great scene between Ferguson and Momoa
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# ¿ Nov 1, 2021 19:55 |
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exposition is really loving tough to write in a novel let alone in a screenplay, and that goes double for some of the crazy poo poo in sci-fi. Dune the movie left a lot of stuff on the floor in the translation between book and cinema and there's a few things I wish had been included, but generally I can't complain with how the movie pulled it off. Like, Kubrick's Shining left a ton of Jack's character out of the movie, and sort of suffered for it compared to the rich characterization of the novel, but Kubrick nailed the creeping-horror feel of the Overlook. That's sort of how I feel about Dune. And also Denis Villeneuve generally. The quality of the directing and cinematography is so good that it accidentally makes a gap between the audience and the characters. Good directors like Kubrick, Villeneuve, et al can use that to tell otherworldly stories. Bad directors don't. Inception and Tenet come to mind.
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# ¿ Nov 8, 2021 01:26 |
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qne
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# ¿ Nov 8, 2021 01:31 |
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Failed Imagineer posted:I'll never stop There are too many liberal arts grad students for this to happen
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# ¿ Nov 8, 2021 20:06 |
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bro there's tictacs flying through international space, anything's possible
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# ¿ Nov 10, 2021 23:39 |
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DeafNote posted:The only thing I disliked was that this Baron seemed a little dumber (since he so willingly accepted that Paul had died in the sandstorm) I don't have my copy of the book on hand, but if I remember right, the baron did actually believe that, didn't he? He just didn't want to say so? (Not being snide here, I seriously can't remember)
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# ¿ Nov 12, 2021 21:41 |
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*libertarianishly* Actually, I think you'll find that the age of consent on Geidi Prime is
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# ¿ Nov 17, 2021 18:43 |
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It's in the Orange Catholic Torah I think
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# ¿ Nov 18, 2021 20:21 |
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I think Verne is forty or so years before Wells. Though I doubt he's even close to the first
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# ¿ Nov 22, 2021 19:28 |
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Tag urself I'm 'Pasty Mesa'
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# ¿ Dec 1, 2021 21:25 |
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Xiahou Dun posted:Tim Blake Nelson or nothing. spice guy or whatever you call yourself -- I know you know it's Padishah Emperor.
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# ¿ Dec 15, 2021 03:15 |
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# ¿ May 11, 2024 11:47 |
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That's a very good answer. Paul can't make himself do the thing he needs to do. Being a willing victim of the plan against him is the only way out.
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