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I don't expect Picard will be much better but unless everybody involved is completely and utterly bad (or else being overruled by somebody truly awful much higher up at CBS) I can't imagine it will be as disagreeable as STD was at it's worst. I mean, what little I've read doesn't inspire much confidence in much the same way what I've read about the recent Star Wars movies didn't, but there's no way they could ignore all the people out there who were fed up with the reheated BSG edgelord stuff. Even STD's second season was trying to back away from that but now apparently the Federation's turned evil in the future so who the gently caress knows anymore. Star Trek was always my first love, but now finally I find it difficult to get excited for more despite P-Stew's involvement. Years and years of increasingly banal, gutless and surprisingly off-brand takes on the material combined with the loudest fan voices outside of these sheltered forums being at least Nazi-adjacent have worn my interest to a nub
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nine-gear crow posted:And Crazy Rich Asians, and Kung-Fu Panda 2, and Sunshine. Saying you've only seen her in Tomorrow Never Dies is kinda like saying you've only seen Patrick Stewart in Masterminds and you're baffled by why people like him so much. This is literally why I asked thank you
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Jan 22, 2020 09:18
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I know I certainly love it when people come into a thread in one of the only decent places to talk about Star Trek on the internet and declare previous pages worth of interactions whining while contributing nothing themselves but lovely jpgs and gifs! I think it'll be just fine with or without you. Oh and Teal and Orange as a thing were overused and played out by 2010 at the latest, it's by no means a dealbreaker but lol @ it being "refreshing" to see it turn up anywhere now.
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Jan 22, 2020 12:32
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Is there actually anybody around here that doesn't want to be pleasantly surprised? I mean I thought it went without saying
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Jan 22, 2020 21:39
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So yeah that was okay, nothing mind-blowing but certainly not awful like Discovery was. I'm pleased that it seems to be a rebuttal of all the hard choices bullshit we've grown to become tired of and my only real complaints are nitpicky bullshit. For what it's worth I was also personally offended by the fact that Boston still seems to exist in the 24th century
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Jan 23, 2020 19:21
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Hipster_Doofus posted:So far not one person in this thread has panned this or even said "meh," not even Tighclops. This bodes well. Everybody, even me, is making GBS threads their pants because of nostalgia and because the bar has been set so unbelievably low for years now that "hey it's Picard and he's back and he's going to do something about all this depressing poo poo! because PRINCIPALS" is basically next level stuff. It's refreshing as hell to watch a new Star Trek thing and not immediately feel like whomever made it would rather be doing something else. Is it perfect? No, but that doesn't matter right now because of the aforementioned bar being located somewhere below the earth's mantle. If I had one major complaint so far it's that unless you're a Trek nerd I'm not terribly sure what you'd get out of the first episode of this series. rear end in a top hat NERD NITPICK ZONE Did they modify the Discovery-era shuttlecraft design or just lift the model because it already looked like a 24th century shuttle? When they took the shuttle mockups from Star Trek V at least they cut them up and gave them new nacelles to make them fit. Mars is still on fire? fire?! The CGI Enterprise-D looked crappier than the one from the final episode of Enterprise But compared to "why are the main characters committing war crimes again" it's like lol
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Jan 23, 2020 22:23
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nine-gear crow posted:Anyway, viewership numbers are starting to trickle in, and Picard's first episode was the most watched single broadcast in the history of CTV Sci-Fi/Space Channel in Canada. God only knows how well its doing on Amazon Prime and CBS Access if it did this well on a Canadian basic cable broadcast network. I was talking about the show with my buddies at work and twice a random customer overheard us and came up to us asking if the show was good, people are hearing about Picard, there is buzz around the show that there simply wasn't for Discovery
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Jan 25, 2020 18:04
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nine-gear crow posted:Trump Derangement Syndrom. She is mad that popular culture is making fun of her big wet orange god emperor, as pop culture is want to do of people who become President, even when they don't hold monstrously cartoonish worldviews. It does not compute to her that Trek has always been a mirror to its modern real world political landscape, and Picard and Discovery are a mirror to post-2016 Hellworld politics. People like that lady have caused me to quantify "I think Discovery was really bad" with "but I'm not a nazi" whenever it comes up in polite conversation
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NowonSA posted:On that note, sign me up as excited to see more spaceship battles in a Trek show with current VFX abilities, especially if we get more of a dogfighting feel as smaller ships fight each other. This is incredibly dumb and lame
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Jan 26, 2020 03:31
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Jan 26, 2020 21:58
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AntherUslessPoster posted:Remember the rule of first season. It's always bad. At some point in the 30 years since next-gen started this stopped being an acceptable excuse.
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Jan 26, 2020 22:37
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AntherUslessPoster posted:When the s1 came out I said to my only pure trekkie friend 'If they gently caress it up, its okay. We still got some Trek after all these years'. I absolutely do understand where you're coming from, I can remember having the same conversation with my trekkie mom back when I was a teenager and Enterprise was new on TV. "Well, even bad Star Trek is better than most other crap!" we'd say to each other. I finally gave up on that show sometime during it's third season, I don't think she ever finished it either despite crushing pretty hard on Scott Bakula since his Quantum Leap days. I collect Transformers and vintage space Lego sets just for the nostalgia value, I won't judge somebody for enjoying something "the wrong way" or for purely emotional reasons, but being over 30 now I find I can't apply the same standards I have for 12 inch action figures and piles of plastic doodads I couldn't afford when I was little to modern hour-long science fiction dramas that go out of their way to paint themselves as seriously as possible.
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If what we've heard about STD's third season is true then the Federation goes fash eventually regardless of whatever Picard does in this show I agree that "The Federation is corrupt and lovely now! Look at how topical we are!" sucks. I don't need the future to be perfect but part of Trek's idealism has always been that these were institutions not entirely like ours, they're actually good and worth keeping. We've only seen one episode so far and while I didn't hate it or anything the more I think about it the less interested I am in seeing where this goes. Maybe they'll actually "explore" why everything is hosed and why having some ideals is a good thing, or maybe it'll just be more edgelord navel gazing. I think that if they had done this show 15 years ago people would be less skeptical but they've been hitting that "maybe better things aren't possible?" angle for so long now that it's just exhausting to think about more of it, even with the nostalgia goggles.
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Lizard Combatant posted:Worth saying though, is that even if I don't like that the Federation had to lose its moral compass for the story they want to tell to work, I'll accept it if they create can something meaningful and coherent. At least Picard isn't the one getting cynical, if the whole show is explicit about needing to get back to something utopian in the face of xenophobia and so on then at least it'll be something positive.
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Regarde Aduck posted:I like rlm more than most here and yeah that Picard review was poo poo. Rich Evans deciding that the Romulan were building the Borg cube (??!?) and Mike saying he did t know what was going on at all. Both of them claim to be big fans. They desperately want Star Trek to just be tng again. Forever. Never anything new. New cinematography? Bad. Better sets? Bad. People acting like humans and not weird roddenbury pretend humans? Bad. Fight choreography? Bad. I get it. We all want 30 years of our lives back. To go back to the 90’s. But they wallow in it unashamedly. This isn’t my Star Trek when I was thinner and had more hair! I thought their review was unnecessarily harsh and nitpicky in places but I don't think most people who are weary of the setting and the story beats so far just want to go back to the 90's. One thing they're right about is that we've effectively seen the first 10 minutes of a movie and it's still early to judge.
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Senor Tron posted:Fan service aside, Picards dream of Data being on the D makes sense from an in universe perspective. The bright spot in Picard was Picard acting like Picard and literally yelling how hosed up it is to be an rear end in a top hat directly into the camera. Like I said, if they hadn't been pushing the angle that the Federation is or can be corrupted since at least Insurrection this would all feel much fresher.
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Jan 27, 2020 23:03
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Honestly I can't remember the theme tune except that the flute from the inner light is in it slightly
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I thought the swearing in Picard was basically fine, it's not like Discovery where the entire episode grinds to a halt just so they can say that something is "loving cool".
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Jan 30, 2020 20:15
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nine-gear crow posted:I'll always remember watching Generations as a kid and Data saying "Oh poo poo!" That was awesome, because the loving Enterprise was about to crash into a planet. If there were ever a time for anybody on TNG to drop an "Oh poo poo!" it was right then and there, and for it to be Data was hilarious.
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Lizard Combatant posted:Oh Christ I hope not. The Borg were meant to be what caused those Romulan bases to go missing in The Neutral Zone... (yes this would probably be really lovely)
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CaveGrinch posted:Dude. Nobody gives a gently caress about your completely unrelated show so you can once again poo poo on DISCO which you don’t even watch. lol you told someone else in the star trek thread to get a life ahahhaa
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I feel like the LCARS stuff they've come up with for the new show looks like it makes less sense than the old stuff
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Feb 2, 2020 21:12
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Lizard Combatant posted:The displays were never really meant to be seen up close except for featured shots, it's just set dressing. I'm well aware that LCARS is not actually a usable GUI despite many attempts by fans to make it work over the years, I said it was better at looking like it made sense than the jumble from Picard Show so far. It reminds me of random background textures used by the Star Trek Online in it's first year, which while I suppose is period appropriate for the show just looks lame.
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I feel like there has to be a way to tell relevant star trek stories that don't involve implying that no actually things don't get better for humanity and the future is as lovely as the present
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Feb 3, 2020 09:32
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Echo Chamber posted:Fans who want utopian Trek are living in a Fukuyama "end of history" mindset. This is insulting and stupid.
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Feb 3, 2020 18:34
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I just hope all this poo poo goes someplace positive in the end
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EvilTaytoMan posted:I'd be almost fine with that scene if the replicators didn't look exactly like lovely microwaves complete with the bell when the food is ready. It's the late 24th century and their matter-replicators look like easy bake ovens and people use them to make reheated swanson's hungry man dinners so relatable
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CPColin posted:I hear the DQ is a good place for u kno what the Dick Quadrant
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Feb 4, 2020 19:36
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More like Jerk Sisko am I right hehn hehn hernnn
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Feb 4, 2020 20:04
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I don't believe a word of that horseshit and neither should you guys
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I bet Brooks would come back if they threw a dumptruck or ten of cash his way but it doesn't matter because it's not real it's a faaaaake so much nerd poo poo online is either nazis or nazi adjacent I don't trust any rumour anymore until I see pictures or footage
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Feb 4, 2020 22:20
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lol if you don't believe they're pulling everything out of their asses just like always
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Feb 5, 2020 04:50
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Literally nobody hates Pike and they'd be stupid not to latch onto one of the few positive things to come out of STD, especially since they're fine throwing money around
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Feb 5, 2020 21:48
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ok I've started laughing at things I don't think they want me laughing at this episode
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Feb 6, 2020 11:21
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I think I pulled something from laughing at commodore blue brothers sunglasses last night loving aaaaaaaa
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Do we know the name of the millennium falcon in the show, I can't remember if they mentioned it also I have no idea what the hell is going on with the Borg cube or what they were talking about but I found it pretty boring even though I knew that dude was Hugh
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