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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:Crockery integrity is down to 80%, divert power to shelf alignment This is genuinely a good post.
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Rhyno posted:Does Star Trek have an afterlife? How do they reconcile Tasha A already being there and then 20 years later Tasha B shows up. Jeremy Bearimy, baby!
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Feb 2, 2020 17:30
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I hope in addition to the prime universe they introduce a choice and select univere
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CPColin posted:Jeremy Bearimy, baby!  *sigh*
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Feb 2, 2020 17:44
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Not being a Discovery watcher, I went to Memory Alpha to learn about the Constitution class there and, well, Memory Alpha does not disappoint.
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Feb 2, 2020 17:53
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Pinterest Mom posted:Not being a Discovery watching, I went to Memory Alpha to learn about the Constitution class there and, well, Memory Alpha does not disappoint. You can almost see the gnashing of their teeth through the writing. Hot take: Disco-prise is awesome and I like it better than the original model. And the bridge set was incredible.
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DrBouvenstein posted:Janeway: In my estimation, Species 8472 posed a greater threat than the Borg. Well eat poo poo Arturis, you've no more authority to make a genocide decision than Janeway is. We supposed to poll locals when doing a genocide? A genocide seems like it's always wrong. Killing also seems wrong but almost everyone gets really horny for killing if you hint at "self-defense." Khanstant fucked around with this message at 18:14 on Feb 2, 2020 |
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Feb 2, 2020 18:10
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kidkissinger posted:was anyone else really bothered by the shelves in Dahj's apartment not being level? what kind of loving future is this??!?!? they're using an anamorphic lens to film the show. the lens basically condenses the shot on to the film, and then when it's projected (or just scanned for post-production or w/e) it's stretched out to be the normal aspect ratio. those lenses also have two big artifacts to them: straight horizontal lines tend to warp (which is happening here), and lens flares get horizontally stretched (probably happens in the show, it's all over the place in discovery and jjtrek, and it's very common to see in a lot of "cinematic" movies).
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Feb 2, 2020 18:51
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piratepilates posted:they're using an anamorphic lens to film the show. the lens basically condenses the shot on to the film, and then when it's projected (or just scanned for post-production or w/e) it's stretched out to be the normal aspect ratio. those lenses also have two big artifacts to them: straight horizontal lines tend to warp (which is happening here), and lens flares get horizontally stretched (probably happens in the show, it's all over the place in discovery and jjtrek, and it's very common to see in a lot of "cinematic" movies). I'm assuming he was joking and referring to the point where the shelves meet not being 100% perfectly aligned, not the barrel distortion of the lens. But the most important part is the joking. kidkissinger, please tell everyone you were joking. dear god please tell them or this will never end. e: gently caress it, forget the shelves look at that bent rear end cupboard! bullshit production design. just pure garbage.
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Feb 2, 2020 19:21
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Lizard Combatant posted:I'm assuming he was joking and referring to the point where the shelves meet not being 100% perfectly aligned, not the barrel distortion of the lens. Just pretend it's a neat background to show how something is slightly off with her whole existence.
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Feb 2, 2020 19:23
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socialsecurity posted:Just pretend it's a neat background to show how something is slightly off with her whole existence. Thank you! I'll update my "head canon" accordingly. 
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Feb 2, 2020 19:25
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kidkissinger posted:was anyone else really bothered by the shelves in Dahj's apartment not being level? what kind of loving future is this??!?!? No, imperfection is beautiful?
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Feb 2, 2020 19:29
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Not having any of your shelves and cabinets and frames aligned properly is the authentic living experience for most 20-somethings the moment they get their first apartment. All Dahj was missing was a bunch of string lights. Thankfully, glow in the dark Sublime posters are banned in the Federation.
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Feb 2, 2020 19:30
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nine-gear crow posted:They do know where Soji is. Narek is a Zhat Vash operative. His plan is gently caress to Soji into whatever scheme his superiors are running. "Rizzo" was sent to bring in Dahj and she went with "strike team and black bag" as her #1 option and it failed spectacularly. Narek's version is currently up in the air on its failure state. But Rizzo wants to try her "just black bag her" plan again on Soji because... uh... second time's the charm? I'm talking about Picard and the Tall Shears. They see that Dahj and Soji were talking to each other, so just figure out the name of the other android and call her up.
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DrBouvenstein posted:Not that I think i will EVER come up (though with (minor cast spoiler that has been in the previews) Seven of Nine in the show there's a chance): I completely skipped Voyager so the whole "forced holo AIs into mining" is loving wild to me given where it felt like the 90s productions were trying to land their depiction of the Federation, but I guess it does make the context around the Utopia revolt scene a little more palatable.
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Feb 2, 2020 19:38
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A bunch of the good writers went to DS9, which was always the secondary show. When that show ended, some writers went to Voyager, saw what the writers room was like and peaced out.
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Feb 2, 2020 19:42
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HD DAD posted:You can almost see the gnashing of their teeth through the writing.  Lizard Combatant posted:I'm assuming he was joking and referring to the point where the shelves meet not being 100% perfectly aligned, not the barrel distortion of the lens. The most important part is, Disco is shot in Toronto, Canada with care and expertise while the Picard show was slapped together in some other place/studio. (Note to Lizard Combatant: I am joking).
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Feb 2, 2020 19:46
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Binary Logic posted:
We're good. Can't argue with that bridge set though, they knocked that one out of the park.
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Pinterest Mom posted:Not being a Discovery watcher, I went to Memory Alpha to learn about the Constitution class there and, well, Memory Alpha does not disappoint. it did slightly irritate me that the constitution holo above picard's head was this one and not the actual 60's model, but not enough to write a screed about it :|
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Ghost Leviathan posted:The close-up look of the Mars facilities does seem to make sense with what we heard about the disaster- a relatively low body count for a planet-wide one since the facilities seemed to be heavily automated and Mars itself isn't heavily inhabited, but used basically as a big manufacturing zone. Since nobody in the Federation has to work, the shipyards would have been set up like any other Federation habitat. Good replicators, comfortable, spacious quarters, standard Fed civil design aesthetics everywhere. Children of Mars shows this design style off nicely. How beautiful was that school ? The problem comes in when you consider that that sort of environment is not conducive to the state of mind needed to work hard shifts in a dangerous industrial environment. You can't bust your rear end all day in paradise, humans just aren't wired like that. Accident rates were probably higher than expected, and productivity lower. So over time they changed over to what we saw on screen: something more like what you'd find on an oil rig or other isolated industrial facility. That would also explain why they can't spend their weekends back on Earth - working at the shipyards is a commitment, it's going to be tough and take tough people to get the very important work done. Working as a team under adverse conditions builds camaraderie and promotes a culture of safety and productivity. You bust rear end for a year, eating food from food printers, not replicated 3-star meals. You'll wear hard hats and other safety gear, you'll live - and think - in an industrial mode. When returning workers give recruitment speeches they can talk about how the crew bonds last a lifetime, and about the sense of pride when a ship you built lifts off for the first time. There's probably a waiting list of people who want to do it just for the character building opportunity and the bragging rights; "Oh the USS Andoria pulled a crippled cruise liner away from a black hole ? Let me tell you how many times we had to re-align her structural integrity fields so she could pull that off..."
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Binary Logic posted:
You just know that guy in blue in the back is a great character with lots of doofy but relatable moments and a sweet romantic arc with the ship's xenolibrarian that ends in heartbreak.
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HD DAD posted:You can almost see the gnashing of their teeth through the writing. I don't know about better, but it's definitely awesome, probably the best they could have done without a straight copy of the original, and the bridge is an amazing update, making it look in line with modern sensibilities while keeping the 60s style.
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the Disco Ent bridge set is great, honestly i mainly just dislike the angled struts - they really don't mesh well in my mind with the rest of the ship. edit: I always dug "Data doin stuff real fast on a LCARS terminal" scenes so this was fun to see 
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Feb 2, 2020 20:38
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Having a pair of same gloves bugged me a little bit this scene - they are totally not usable for capacitive touch screens 
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Feb 2, 2020 20:49
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You don't know what kind of screen that is.
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Crusader posted:the Disco Ent bridge set is great, honestly i mainly just dislike the angled struts - they really don't mesh well in my mind with the rest of the ship. I thought it was interesting that F8 went sad suicide route too, like he knew it was wrong and had no choice and thought this would end the pain. I thought it was mostly accepted that while Earth is paradise other Federation colonies don't have to follow that model if they don't want to. So if you want to create a charter planet ala 1620's Mass. Bay Colony go loving nuts. My only complaint about episode 2 is that it felt exposition heavy, I would like to start moving the plot a bit please.
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Feb 2, 2020 20:53
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Mooseontheloose posted:I thought it was mostly accepted that while Earth is paradise other Federation colonies don't have to follow that model if they don't want to. So if you want to create a charter planet ala 1620's Mass. Bay Colony go loving nuts. something I can’t recall how well it’s been established or discussed: how much of the prime directive applies to warp-capable member civilizations of the Federation? My sense, not backed up by anything at all, in that the charter and general civil rights apply, but beyond that a planet could be somewhat regressive in the eyes of 24th century humanity, since the Federation does try to pride itself on Vulcan-style infinite diversity in infinite combinations. Totally understood if no writer or even a writer’s guide wanted to open the fan of worms laying down exactly how autonomous Federation worlds can be though.
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Crusader posted:it did slightly irritate me that the constitution holo above picard's head was this one and not the actual 60's model, but not enough to write a screed about it :| The gently caress is wrong with you?
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Regarde Aduck posted:The gently caress is wrong with you? I’ll be fine. 
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I feel like the LCARS stuff they've come up with for the new show looks like it makes less sense than the old stuff
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I just want to say I think the new 24th century Starfleet uniforms are pretty sharp. Also that the Disco Enterprise uniforms are an eyesore.
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I think I’d like the Pike Enterprise uniforms more if they weren’t so obviously re-dyed standard Disco unis. The Disco uniforms in general look pretty bad because they’re so form-fitting. They remind me of the early TNG spandex suits that gave everyone back pain. I can’t imagine anyone other than Doug Jones is comfortable in them.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:I think I’d like the Pike Enterprise uniforms more if they weren’t so obviously re-dyed standard Disco unis. The Disco uniforms in general look pretty bad because they’re so form-fitting. They remind me of the early TNG spandex suits that gave everyone back pain. I can’t imagine anyone other than Doug Jones is comfortable in them. There's a difference between form fitting and being sized too small. What exactly looks uncomfortable about the disco uniforms?
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Tighclops posted:I feel like the LCARS stuff they've come up with for the new show looks like it makes less sense than the old stuff If so then that's an accomplishment, because while it looked cool, TNG's LCARS interface was nigh incomprehensible itself.
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nine-gear crow posted:If so then that's an accomplishment, because while it looked cool, TNG's LCARS interface was nigh incomprehensible itself. Years ago when the star trek experience thing was still at the vegas hilton I threw away an embarrassing amount of money to spend a ton of time on the recreation of the enterprise-d bridge (which is supposedly a 1:1 recreation of the original) and I gotta say.. in person it also makes no sense. There are whole buttons that take up like the size of my phone that say things like "navigation" or "LIBRARY". And then a weird maybe circle in circle thing that has 40 individual buttons sliced through it. Now making user interfaces for naval ships that make no sense and kill people is very on brand for the real life navy but come on.
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adaz posted:Years ago when the star trek experience thing was still at the vegas hilton I threw away an embarrassing amount of money to spend a ton of time on the recreation of the enterprise-d bridge (which is supposedly a 1:1 recreation of the original) It's not, it's like 20 percent smaller.
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The displays were never really meant to be seen up close except for featured shots, it's just set dressing. I think the new ones look fine? If you want all the background details that you can only see on hitting pause to make sense, I got some bad news for you. Half the buttons in Alien are just random sanskrit there's keys for "levitating bliss" or some poo poo.
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Timby posted:It's not, it's like 20 percent smaller. LAS VEGAS LIED TO ME????? Well good to know. Still was great (and I miss it)
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Lizard Combatant posted:The displays were never really meant to be seen up close except for featured shots, it's just set dressing. Yeah, I recall the production team on Enterprise having a mild panic attack when the show entered the HD era and suddenly all the tiny text they wrote for set dressing was legible on screen for the first time ever, including an entire up-to-his-death bio for Jonathan Archer they wrote for In A Mirror Darkly which they had no intention of ever being seen and they had to go "Uh... Yeah that's all canon then I guess."
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Lizard Combatant posted:The displays were never really meant to be seen up close except for featured shots, it's just set dressing. If someone wants a somewhat realistic portrayal of UIs and poo poo they can watch The Expanse. ST never made sense in UI designs, though I've heard rumors that some bridge arrangements were introduced into real navy ships (not the stupid touch steering, thats just idiotic)
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